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Title: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 January 2016, 03:26:56 PM
Here we are again for another eclectic butterfly journey through my wargaming year.

I'll link to the previous years again - because it helps me, when I am trying to find my own stuff!

2015s thread was a good size, though not quite to the levels of 2014, with 462 posts and 18,588 views. The 2014 thread gained a further 16,000 views since the close of the year - which is quite astounding.

2015  http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11148.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11148.0.html)
2014  http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9178.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9178.0.html)
2013  http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6626.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6626.0.html)
2012  http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4379.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4379.0.html)

Most years I have written about what I think I will paint in the coming year - rarely has this survived more than a week.

There are a couple of sets of painting that I really should progress

It's interesting that the above could be a copy and paste from last year (and the Arabs quite possibly from the year before) not sure what is stopping progress on these two forces. Well with the Arabs its probably because the figures are TB line and are multi-part and detailed so require quite a lot of work to assemble and paint. But as heavy cavalry they have a lot of armour which is easy to paint. This certainly can't be the excuse for the WWI British! I've done the assembly of the guns, and the painting is pretty straight forward for both the infantry and the guns - with the option of some nice dazzle camo as a change.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Good luck Forbes, look forwards to all the photos. 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2016, 04:25:34 PM
Same here !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 January 2016, 07:13:00 PM
I'll try to supply a steady stream...

I think I will try to take some more photos of finished units against proper backgrounds - rather than the quick snaps on the painting table.

But quick snaps are easy!

So here are some latests additions to the banana Space Marines, some scouts and some Land Speeders

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j7PHc7hMKeU/VobN7k9cbUI/AAAAAAAAFeo/dR9ZX36QkGY/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0373.JPG)

Who will get their first outing on the table tonight.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2016, 07:25:03 PM
Hope they do you well! Good work fella!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2016, 08:24:27 PM
Damn fine work, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 01 January 2016, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: fred. on 01 January 2016, 03:26:56 PM
Here we are again for another eclectic butterfly journey through my wargaming year.
...
Most years I have written about what I think I will paint in the coming year - rarely has this survived more than a week.

There are a couple of sets of painting that I really should progress

  • WWI British - these are sprayed, and base coated in brown - so really should progress quickly. This would also give me a pair of playable forces, as I have already done the late War Germans
  • Arab Heavy Cavalry - getting these guys painted would improve this army a lot for not a lot of effort.
...

Followed by a picture of banana Space Marines :-\

Which are very nice by the way ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2016, 12:53:48 AM
In my defence, the Space Marines are much closer to completion than either of those two problem children.  And they were needed for a game tonight - which they won on their first outing vs the Orks. It was a Breakout game and the mobility and resilience of the SM paid out.

Realised I need to add some Air Support to the SM, and some AA - as the Orks fighter/bombers were very troublesome.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 02 January 2016, 03:30:35 AM
Quote from: fred. on 02 January 2016, 12:53:48 AM
...they were needed for a game tonight - which they won on their first outing vs the Orks...

That's an acceptable excuse, just ;) ;D

Congratulations on the win :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 03 January 2016, 07:03:45 PM
We seem to have reached a consensus on Epic as our groups game of choice for the next 6 weeks or so, but have failed to choose the next choice after that...

So expect to see a fair but of Epic stuff in the next few weeks - butterfly effects willing.

So of course here is a 10mm Windmill! Did a bit of a desk tidy up, and re-found the Esconographica Windmill that I bought in the autumn. Did a bit of detailing on the windows and exposed brickwork, and stuck on a base.
I had previously drilled in a bit of brass rod for the sails - I have left these so they can be removed for ease of storage.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kPVemOxi1bI/VoluWf-8D2I/AAAAAAAAFfw/P2EHEShZvKY/s800-Ic42/IMG_0376.JPG)

And did a bit of work on some banana Marines. Finished off the 4 stands of scouts - not sure why they are wearing khaki clothing with bright yellow armour? And did some light conversions on a couple of Land Speeders to change them into the gun armed variant. And re-based the 4 black ones on to nice Minibits 25mm MDF ones.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KQk5fOdseNI/VoluWSwUGJI/AAAAAAAAFfw/TZ4w2QUjN1I/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0375.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 January 2016, 07:42:01 PM
Nice one Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 03 January 2016, 08:59:27 PM
Seconded !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 03 January 2016, 10:35:21 PM
Thanks chaps!

More yellow...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Yw4mtKayiF4/VomhkbhaUGI/AAAAAAAAFgc/i7uDF3DiEFY/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0377.JPG)

Black land speeders, given a light coat of white, then some yellow, which still looks a bit patchy.
And the land raiders, stuck on 30mm Minibits MDF bases, and given a coat of yellow - also need to paint their second gun black, I was using this to hold them when painting the tracks before sticking them to their bases.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 January 2016, 11:47:18 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 04 January 2016, 06:30:55 AM
They certainly are.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 04 January 2016, 03:20:52 PM
another year my god they come round quick, anyway nice work

take care

andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 January 2016, 06:46:23 PM
Don't they just Andy!

Does anyone have an idea of a paint to match this light green - preferably GW or Vallejo?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cD6SlJHMnd8/Voq9mifC1YI/AAAAAAAAFhw/KrKs90nq0xg/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0379.JPG)
Despite having a dozen or so greens, none of mine seem close to this one. I've got a few hundred of these little guys to paint and would much rather have a pot, than having to mix up lots of batches. It doesn't have to be a 100% match, but close enough as I quite like this colour.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 January 2016, 07:02:05 PM
Either Vallejo yellow-green or coat d'arms goblin green, but without a Pantone card nearby, it's difficult to tell how much your camera has changed the colour...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 January 2016, 07:09:17 PM
The colour repro is fairly good if anything the real one is a touch yellower.

It's definitely a different - lighter shade - to GW goblin green.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 04 January 2016, 11:43:18 PM
Gw moot green or elysian green

Matt
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 January 2016, 07:42:07 AM
Thanks Matt, I've managed to translate those to VJ colours, via two paint charts!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 January 2016, 10:47:13 PM
Finally decided to try some vision enhancement for painting - I was finding that I was struggling to focus on the figures, and generally that I have to move my head back (or item further away) to see close up stuff in focus.  So after reading the very useful thread on Optivisors and other options, I went for a pair of cheap plastic reading glasses - to act as over specs. I went for some off Amazon for a whole £4.19 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S8IA614?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00 And they are definitely cheap and plastic. But they work. Really well. They comfortably fit over my proper glasses, and when on I hardly notice that they are there.

It really makes a difference at normal painting distance everything is suddenly sharp, and a bit bigger, but not too much bigger. I had no problems adjusting to positioning the brush. It makes quite a difference being able to see the detail you are painting, rather than half remembering it and painting by touch. This doesn't improve brush control, but you can see the mistakes when you make them.

Checking my phone to read an email, it was quite shocking how clear and big the font was on my phone - and I don't normally think its small.

The only down side is that distance vision is blurry - even looking at the labels on paint bottles a couple of feet away is a bit blurry, and the TV across the room is bad. But a tilt of the head allows me to look over the top of both pairs of glasses and see the TV.

So if you are struggling with seeing the detail of figures, then its well worth a few quid to get a pair of reading glasses - just remember to take them off before you go out!


More Banana Marines

So now that I can see, the painting results should be awesome  ;)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VkT9kq0FNww/Vo2Wgj46hUI/AAAAAAAAFic/_E0dL7sx7Nw/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0383.JPG)

More yellow - its so rubbish at covering that even over a white dry brush it needs two coats it some places, plus I'd missed some bits  :-[

Added red bits, for interest, tidied up some bits of black, highlighted some weapons with 'oily steel' metallic paint. Just need to give them a wash, and I think they are done, bar basing.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 06 January 2016, 11:07:52 PM
I have both reading glasses and an optivisor and without doubt prefer the reading glasses for comfort

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 January 2016, 12:04:55 AM
Very nice Forbes!  :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 07 January 2016, 07:27:54 AM
Very nice indeed, Forbes !  :-bd

I like the Optivisor, 'cos you can just push the lenses up, if you need to focus further away. ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 January 2016, 12:26:11 PM
The glasses are very easy to push up out of the way. But rather less easy to push back down - it seems easier to take them off an on again.

I decided against the headset magnifiers as they seem a bit clunky to wear, and a pair of extra specs seemed the easiest first step.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 January 2016, 03:16:03 PM
I wear reading glasses for anything close up anyway and simply pop the Rolson version of the optivisor over them when painting.

I use the reading glasses in a plastic tube type case that I pick up from the local British Heart foundation charity shop for a couple of quid. They're useful because the tube fits in a trouser pocket and the glasses aren't deep so I can peer over the top for distance vision.

That said I have 3 pairs of reading glasses of different strengths (2.5, 3 & 4) plus 3 sets of lenses and do mix and match depending on what I'm painting. 90% of the time it's the strength 3 glasses and the weakest of the lenses.

Like Techno I just push the optivisor up out of the way like a .... visor  :)  when I need to look at something other than the object I'm painting.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 January 2016, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 07 January 2016, 03:16:03 PM

'They're useful because the tube fits in a trouser pocket...'


Thank god you can't buy loon trousers (tight hipster flares from the '70's) anymore, that could be a bit worrying or egocentric depending on your viewpoint. (See what I did there?)

I have my close-in glasses that I use for painting. I specifically mentioned that I paint figures to the optician and he integrated that into my prescription. Incidentally, I only need glasses for reading if the font is small, otherwise my vision is pretty good. (He said as he touches wooden table.)
One of my lads bought me an optivisor as a Crimble pressie about five years ago, I think it's been out of the box twice since.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 07 January 2016, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 07 January 2016, 03:54:01 PM
Thank god you can't buy loon trousers (tight hipster flares from the '70's) anymore, that could be a bit worrying or egocentric depending on your viewpoint. (See what I did there?)
One of my lads bought me an optivisor as a Crimble pressie about five years ago, I think it's been out of the box twice since.

Nah....I didn't like 'loons' either.....Very uncomfortable around the nether regions....Though flared jeans were fine.

I'll remember that you've got a virtually unused Optivisor....I might make you an offer..... (at some stage in the future)..... when the one I'm wearing, goes the way of the first one.  ;)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 January 2016, 10:13:39 PM
No painting this weekend, but I did get to visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds - which I would recommend highly. I spent the whole afternoon there wandering through the many galleries and looking at all the artefacts. Its mainly an old school style museum with lots of stuff to see - not lots of modern interactive displays - so to me a lot better than the IWM North at Salford.

So so photos - the first 3 are all of the large Pavia tableau - with 2 mounted gendarmes, vs several Landsknecht pike and arquebusiers - this is really big and dynamic. I'm not sure about the colours, they seem to have gone for a very monochrome scheme

From Ground level
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0PnLjFfuQLU/VpLTjkRxrQI/AAAAAAAAFj8/a__yuTlTjuY/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0384.JPG)

The the gallery looking down - in this photo it looks like a model
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bmFekp-ZAF8/VpLTjmTPf_I/AAAAAAAAFj8/we8Rl5Cze1U/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0385.JPG)

[img with=700]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--zw1TjXE3kI/VpLTjuFumUI/AAAAAAAAFj8/pLWwNMkRRZw/s800-Ic42/IMG_0388.JPG[/img]


This is an impressive display of late Renaissance infantry and cavalry - not the best picture I'm afraid
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d69Dc3kNoQ0/VpLTji0TgGI/AAAAAAAAFj8/ibq2bhI8gwg/s800-Ic42/IMG_0389.JPG)

The Asian and Oriental gallery was very good
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UqAMd8N21lQ/VpLTjkvO-xI/AAAAAAAAFj8/r6O1Y9-QYG4/s800-Ic42/IMG_0393.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WnSfucA0arU/VpLTjhrqnLI/AAAAAAAAFkE/Vd2ffUlxiFM/s800-Ic42/IMG_0394.JPG)

The tower at then end is decorated with thousands of weapons - this is just a small section of them. What was surprising was to see that some of the weapons are bolt-action rifles, you are so used to seeing these displays in old buildings that to see more modern weapons in them is surprising.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I0TQT_LcayU/VpLTjr1w9zI/AAAAAAAAFj8/K-deU4q7Mwc/s800-Ic42/IMG_0391.JPG)

There are also medieval galleries - which is rather like looking at full sized version of the Perry WoTR figures! A gallery of tournament armour, mainly Henry VIII's and Emperor Maximilian's - this contrasts with the battle armour. A lot of WWI weapons. And probably more stuff that I have forgotten. The shop even had quite a lot of Warlord Games plastic figures and even Black Powder rules!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 10 January 2016, 11:26:47 PM
Yeah when me and the wife went we really enjoyed ourselves.

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 January 2016, 12:11:05 AM
Great shots, thank you.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 January 2016, 07:46:38 AM
Thanks for sharing those, Forbes.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 January 2016, 07:46:44 AM
glad you like them chaps

Noticed one of the image links is wrong

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--zw1TjXE3kI/VpLTjuFumUI/AAAAAAAAFj8/pLWwNMkRRZw/s800-Ic42/IMG_0388.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 11 January 2016, 08:17:54 AM
I love the Leeds armouries.

They normally have a series of events going on though. I've seen Rifleman Costello, Tudor Fencing and hawking.

They've got tilts outside to, don't they?

Perhaps these are just summer funs.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Westmarcher on 11 January 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Agreed. A great cultural asset for the North of England and a must see if you are in the area. On my first visit, I was also fortunate to be there when they were running various events (e.g., jousting, hawking, etc.). I think it was at Easter. My favourite was the Pole Arms Combat demonstration. Guys in full plate armour dispelling the myth of heavy armour being too cumbersome to fight in, by leaping about all over the place. Fascinating stuff (nor did it do the varnished floor any good either!). Would liked to have seen the Rifleman Costello demo, fsn. 

On the second occasion, I was staying at the hotel across the road. There was still a lot of building work going in the immediate vicinity. Nevertheless, I was fairly miffed to be awakened on the Saturday morning by the "construction workers" and their heavy vehicles. However, it was only when I got downstairs, that the true source of the noise became apparent - WW2 jeeps, trucks and a German half-track parked outside replete with Tommies, G.I.s, Panzer Grenadiers and other assorted people walking about in WW2 period costume! Excellent start to the day!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 11 January 2016, 12:05:38 PM
Love the Royal Armouries - Pavia, Samurai, Chassepot and Needle guns - what's not to like. Been three times now but still not seen the tilt yard in action, although the commercial armoury next to it is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 January 2016, 10:52:50 PM
A few more bits of painting on the Banana marines over the last couple of days

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Kn_axCWdFsw/VpgmLX6oQmI/AAAAAAAAFk0/PJou1OgCMoY/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0399.JPG)

Pretty much there with most of the painting. Just waiting on a few bits from H&R to convert some stuff with missiles. Then on to basing.

Oh, and I bought a bunch of bikes off eBay, so they will need painting when they arrive. Will it ever end?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 January 2016, 11:46:55 PM
Nice one Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 15 January 2016, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: fred. on 10 January 2016, 10:13:39 PM
No painting this weekend, but I did get to visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds - which I would recommend highly...

What's it like for kids?  I remember going when it first opened in the 90's and they had a load of interactive displays, crossbow firing, electronic pedestrian shooting (!), etc. so it was quite good fun for younger visitors.  I've not been back since, so we're thinking about taking the kids over in the next month or so.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 January 2016, 08:02:31 AM
Looking really good, Forbes.  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 January 2016, 12:34:59 PM
Quote from: Leon on 15 January 2016, 02:01:34 AM
What's it like for kids?  I remember going when it first opened in the 90's and they had a load of interactive displays, crossbow firing, electronic pedestrian shooting (!), etc. so it was quite good fun for younger visitors.  I've not been back since, so we're thinking about taking the kids over in the next month or so.

There is definitely some stuff for kids. But most of it is quite traditional objects in cases. But lots of objects well presented. As I didn't have the kids with me, I kind of didn't pay too much attention to the more interactive kids stuff. The various shooty  things in the entrance hall were all out of service though.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 15 January 2016, 05:53:21 PM
I have just booked a school trip for 128 pupils and the Armouries are putting on some great workshops for us, suiting up in 100 years War armour, firing model trebuchets etc...At least I will have fun, hopefully the kids will too!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 15 January 2016, 07:25:18 PM
Quote from: fred. on 15 January 2016, 12:34:59 PM
There is definitely some stuff for kids. But most of it is quite traditional objects in cases. But lots of objects well presented. As I didn't have the kids with me, I kind of didn't pay too much attention to the more interactive kids stuff. The various shooty  things in the entrance hall were all out of service though.

Thanks for the info, we'll go along and see then.  It won't be for a while yet so hopefully some of the out of service things will be back in action.

8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 January 2016, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: Bodvoc on 15 January 2016, 05:53:21 PM
I have just booked a school trip for 128 pupils

:o Good Luck!!

Quote from: Bodvoc on 15 January 2016, 05:53:21 PM
and the Armouries are putting on some great workshops for us, suiting up in 100 years War armour, firing model trebuchets etc...At least I will have fun, hopefully the kids will too!
Sounds great. I only saw a chap talking about the various Samurai displays - but this was very interesting and informative. So actual hands on stuff should be really good.

Double Games
Managed to get a game in both Friday and Saturday night this week.

Friday was 4 player Epic at a mates, Marines and Necrons in an alliance of convenience vs Tyranids. This was using a new 'nid list, and it seems a bit too good. But it was a good game, even if I was struggling with armour saves, and with rally rolls.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m1IZrv6ZIPQ/VpwUTznbXpI/AAAAAAAAFmM/HvQWF4HVaK0/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0400.JPG)

Saturday, we tried some new rules - Irregular Wars - which are historical rules in 16th to 17th Centuries, particularly focused on the smaller scale conflicts around the fringes of Europe and the exploration of the New World.
We went with a some what hypothetical Imperial (Holy Roman Empire) vs Steppe Khanate - basically as I had figures for these two armies.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e1xxIJ4MgP8/VpwUT6p6_0I/AAAAAAAAFmQ/zxJtTVQyOEY/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0403.JPG)
Lots of Pendraken figures (about time, says Leon!) The Steppe Khanate are Pendraken Mongols, and the Imperial Pikes and Cannon are Pendraken too.
In this picture the Khanate forces have moved from their starting position on the right, to the left, and would later move back to the right - they are highly mobile as would be expected. Steve was rather cautious with them and eventually allowed the Imperial shooting to really take its toll. The Imperial pikes proved very resilient in melee - even when flanked. We really enjoyed the rules - they were simple to get the hang of, but had a lot of flavour and tactical thinking. Well worth the £12. I'm working out which other armies I already have a core of - and which need a few additions to increase their playability.


Banana Basing

Lots of basing of the Banana Marines' Armour today - so got all the bases textured, and a couple of layers of dry brushing applied.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P2FNBOmm7H0/VpwRXPJS4eI/AAAAAAAAFlk/oF5XbMr9_uY/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0404.JPG)
But now that it is starting to dry, I am wondering if I have gone light enough.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 17 January 2016, 11:03:42 PM
Short answer, based on that picture is No ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 18 January 2016, 07:51:36 AM
Great piccies on the previous page, Forbes !  8)

I'd also go for lightening the bases, a tad.  ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 January 2016, 07:52:53 AM
The bases look great.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 January 2016, 10:57:09 PM
Added another even lighter highlight to the bases - I think they are about right now - unless they dry darker.

Did a few bits more detailing to a few land speeders, and some marines' shoulder pads. Tidied up the land speeders stands with grey to hide various painting mistakes.

Hopefully get some flock on these in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 January 2016, 10:11:42 PM
Imperial Fists

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U3qBCWe-bSs/Vp6z1j9_YHI/AAAAAAAAFnA/CYw-le_Rtqs/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0410.JPG)

Finished off the basing with some mixed flock.

The rest of the infantry came painted, so other than a few bits and pieces that I am waiting on delivery of, this lot are done!!

Not quite sure what is next.

Might finish off a few Tyranids while I have the Epic bug.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 January 2016, 10:12:57 PM
Nice work, good plan to do bugs whilst you have the bug!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Steve J on 20 January 2016, 06:53:49 AM
Very nice and I like the slightly different tones of yellow to break up that massed look.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 20 January 2016, 07:00:12 AM
They look great.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 January 2016, 07:17:12 AM
Those look great, Forbes !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 January 2016, 07:55:36 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: Steve J on 20 January 2016, 06:53:49 AM
Very nice and I like the slightly different tones of yellow to break up that massed look.

Yes, this was definitely deliberate  ;) But it seems to have come out ok.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 20 January 2016, 08:18:27 AM
The idea of making the vehicles slightly different in tone looks really effective'
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 20 January 2016, 11:26:53 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 January 2016, 11:04:34 PM
Played Epic again last night - a different and fun game.

We played a scenario centred around floating city platforms on a gas giant.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ot9zxQA9mkQ/VqPg3CDL9nI/AAAAAAAAFn4/xyzzK1nsgGk/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0414.JPG)

The Imperial Guard were defending the bombed city, while my Tyranids swarmed in trying to capture 2 of the 3 objectives. Jon had done great work in painting up the main floating city board, but as your can see we were a bit short of matching buildings. We decided to play the blue 'streets' as air, so that each block was its own platform - linked by bridges. This proved a little too restrictive on movement. When we play this again I think we will have this whole board as ground. With more restrictions on the movement through the city blocks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Fkw7kKXXZdk/VqPg3J-IlLI/AAAAAAAAFn4/Ju_VrffTR-I/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0411.JPG)
The remains of one of my swarms after getting bombed while crowded on a bridge - not good  :'(

It was a tense cautious game, with the Imperial Guard having to stay fairly spread out to defend the 3 objectives - while the Tyranids struggled to mass enough force to take the two objectives I was focusing on. But in the fourth turn, the pressure finally told and I was able to grab the central objective, and totally dominate the right hand one.

It was a good game, and really mixed things up with the different floating platforms to fight on.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 24 January 2016, 12:26:17 AM
Looks like you had fun

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 24 January 2016, 05:52:05 AM
Great stuff, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 January 2016, 10:38:18 PM
Thanks guys - it was a good game.

Random epic stuff in progress, some Marine bikes, that need re-basing. Some Tyranid Gargoyles, that are done via the last bit of basing. And work on some Trygons - which still need a bone colour on their armour plates.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hEQCM2toYTk/VqahfSUohbI/AAAAAAAAFpI/vLewfxlvsNw/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0428.JPG)

And just in the picture some the Pendraken Barricades - how are people painting the box like things on these? Are they meant to be boxes, or something else?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 26 January 2016, 07:47:40 AM
Looking zippy , Forbes !  :)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 January 2016, 10:13:36 PM
Got a bunch of 1/300 WarPac bits from H&R to convert up some of my banana marines

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JwTqCWMDz_M/VqqPiHv73OI/AAAAAAAAFpw/5YIr3kauee8/s1280-Ic42/IMG_0429.JPG)

Small twin rocket launchers for the skimmers, big triple rockets launchers for the Rhinos, and bulldozer blades for Vindicators.

Various detailing added the rockets and bikes - helps to break up the yellow.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 29 January 2016, 07:59:47 AM
Yep !.....Very nice indeed, Forbes.  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 January 2016, 09:27:03 AM
Thanks Phil. I'll see if the suffer the fate of all newly painted stuff tonight!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 January 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Doooooooomed!  ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 29 January 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Nice stuff Fred you are giving me an epic itch. Need to finish my chaos and IG at some point.

Also if you run out of Rhinos or Land raiders or if any of your gaming buddies want some Ork battlewagons PM me. Got a few gathering dust and in need of a good home.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 January 2016, 05:26:42 PM
Very kind Matt. I'll check with my Orky mate tonight.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 29 January 2016, 07:57:07 PM
I think there is a couple of mega gargants and a bucket of boyz. Give me a shout if any use
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 January 2016, 08:51:39 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R9FX8mN7Qys/Vq0f3I5K5nI/AAAAAAAAFqg/5m_RLJuLmYg/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0430.JPG)

More Epic, Nids vs Marines and Sisters of Battle.

The Nids were rather scared of the Sisters, and a lot of their troops concentrated on my flank - which allowed the Sisters to smash the Nids on their flank, and then swing round to help me out. In the end we managed to hold all 3 of the objectives. 
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 30 January 2016, 09:15:28 PM
That looks great, Forbes !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 January 2016, 09:20:58 PM
Nice one Fred!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 30 January 2016, 11:11:25 PM
Looks very good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 February 2016, 11:04:23 PM
Thanks guys, it was a good game - looking at those photos I think I need some new bases for trees and other scatter terrain, the bits of funky foam, while functional, look a bit rubbish in photos.

Got some new deliveries at the weekend - more epic stuff, but from Vanguard miniatures. And got all of it sprayed and at least one colour on - lots of rain is good for painting!

Got a bit of detailing on the support aircraft and the not terminators tonight

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--8BYSHgLMxw/Vq_jRfSH5vI/AAAAAAAAFsY/_X4RzjzNDcU/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0433.JPG)


At the weekend I also did a bit of (limited) sorting as I had bought a few more really useful boxes, so shuffled trays around to try to put the same era stuff in the same box. Found a fair bit of stuff that was rather forgotten. And then as I had discovered piles of stuff, bought a load of Pendraken stuff to add to the lead pile  :D This is mainly stuff for Irregular wars - mainly various pike and shot troops to make some European factions, and some Scots to allow my Jacobean ones to be used a bit earlier.

I'm getting more jealous of your retired guys being able to game lots.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 02 February 2016, 06:27:24 AM
Very nice indeed, Forbes.  8)

(At least I can comment on these, as they won't be in the painting comp.  ;D ;D ;D )

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 February 2016, 10:58:18 PM
More Yellow Marines - they must be finished soon.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wF5Q_-vjiws/VrPWexKG64I/AAAAAAAAFs8/B7uBOcCdgEE/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0435.JPG)

Based up the Terminators and added some texture to the bikes and some land speeders. Also detailed the red bikes.

Not quite sure what the next step with the planes is - probably some geometric splinter camo.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 05 February 2016, 07:36:59 AM
Ho....Yus.  :)

Those look terrific, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 February 2016, 10:53:03 AM
Top work Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 February 2016, 09:54:18 PM
We played Epic again on Friday night. A Scenario called the Living Wall, with the Marines having to smash through the Tyranid forces to escape.  This was a good time for a first outing for the new bikes, Terminators and bombers.

We ended up with me playing all the Marines vs 2 Nid players - one of the Nid players had mis-read the scenario and thought he was trying to escape - unfortunately we pointed out his mistake before the first turn started - although it would have been rather Benny Hill like with his guys running in one direction, while mine went passed in the other!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IygG1q6z2Xw/Vre3tU3nBZI/AAAAAAAAFt0/tnPXTf8sr2Q/s1280-Ic42/IMG_0436.JPG)
This is mid first turn. My bombers made a mess of the Nids clustered in the woods, and other units piled on the hurt. In the centre 2 harridans with flocks of Gargoyles had jumped on my small scout formation - and really struggled to kill them. Then just allowed themselves to be shot up by my Titan and tanks. The purple Nids on the far side were being very cautious - as expected!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eftTOPKIQLA/Vre3tSz70TI/AAAAAAAAFt0/NxNjX1KuhbE/s1280-Ic42/IMG_0438.JPG)
This was the end of the first turn - with my bikes streaking off the table, through a handy gap left between the purple Nid formations.
In the middle both Harridan formations were broken, with one loosing its Harridan. I'd lost a Scout formation at this time, and had very few blast markers on other formations.

In the End Phase the Nids did very badly at rallying - I think all 3 of the bone formations failed to rally - leaving 2 broken and the bombed one in the wood with loads of blast markers on it.

I teleported the Terminators in, but they weren't paying enough attention to their protocols and picked up a couple of blast markers. Or it turns out their armour - they got jumped on by a Nid formation and despite killing a lot of it were wiped out.
With a load of broken formations on the right, I was able to smash through pretty easily and get several formations off the table. The Nids did cause some casualties, but not enough. At the point we called the game I was up 6 VP to 3, with the ability to easily get several more formations off the table for a VP each.

It was a good scenario - the Marines are very mobile, and were able to cover the whole table forcing the Nids to defend in width - then the Marines were able to concentrate their force on the centre right and smash through.

Of the 3 newly painted units, the Bombers were MVP, the terminators died miserably, and the bikes revved their engines and shot off the table!

Most of the rest of the weekend has been spent with 1:1 scale painting of the kitchen (and rugby watching!) while the paint dries...

But I did managed to spray some of the Land Raiders and the Rhinos that Matt J very kindly donated to my war effort!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ubzg7S0jpo/Vre3tXk-r_I/AAAAAAAAFuE/g6R9TVAqdjU/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0441.JPG)

I suppose I better get on and think about the painting comp...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 February 2016, 11:47:09 PM
Looks a fun game
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 February 2016, 06:28:31 AM
Absolutely.  :)

(I think I've asked this before but.......How do get such good photo's Forbes ?......They're so crisp, beautifully focused and shadows are almost non existent.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 February 2016, 07:48:32 AM
I think it's down to technology now - I have stopped using my DSLR camera as it is too big and inconvenient  and just use my iPhone 6S as it seems to take really good photos.  But it is very much point and click so it must be doing all the clever stuff, I'll I try to do is hold it very still.  The game photos were taken at Dave's house, and he has several fluorescent tubes above the gaming table which give very good light.

The sprayed tanks were taken in the conservatory in a rare bit of sunshine.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 February 2016, 11:49:27 AM
It certainly takes excellent piccies !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 February 2016, 05:17:49 PM
Each generation of iPhone or iPad has taken better photos than the previous one. The current camera takes really good stills as well as video, with the ability to take slow motion video even in fairly poor light. The only thing the DSLR has going for it is s zoom lense, but even the phone is getting better at this, as it captures so many pixels, you can crop to zoom pretty effectively.

As always more light helps, if you compare the photos from the game a week ago, taken at my house, with rubbish lighting, to this week's ones with good lighting there is a big difference. But the low light ones are ok, which wasn't always the case with an iPhone camera.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 February 2016, 10:15:40 PM
Painting Comp

Rather late in the day (or should that be month!) I have had a proper think about the painting comp. And think I actually have a good chance of getting an entry into each category - with only a few entries needing to be started from scratch.

Foot - Pre-20th C. - Min: 3 / Max: 16 figures, on either a single base, multiple bases, or in a movement tray.
Flodden MAA

Foot - 20th C. - Min: 3 / Max: 16 figures, on either a single base, multiple bases, or in a movement tray.
WWI British

Mounted - Min: 3 / Max: 10 figures, on either a single base, multiple bases, or in a movement tray.
Mongols or Centaur Archers


Vehicle - Single vehicle on or off base.
Decon, could be a bit dull in sand
Or a WWI tank - captured german or early British camo

Fantasy & Sci-Fi - Anything Fantasy or Sci-Fi oriented, on either a single base, multiple bases, or in a movement tray.
Lizardmen, Centaurs or Minotaur command, water elementals

Open - Single Base - Anything which doesn't fit into the other categories, with a max base size of 100x100mm.  Includes single figures, artillery bases, command stands, etc.
British WWI Arty
Roman ballistae

Open - Army! - Armies, Units, Dungeons, whole table setups, anything!
Lizardmen

Warband! - Any single base for use in our Warband rules, this can be a command stand, a unit of warriors, an artillery base, etc.
Dwarf flyers or wizards, or spiders
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 February 2016, 10:32:09 PM
I painted some Pendraken figures tonight!!!

Actually got back to some 10mm Pendraken tonight - after weeks of 6mm epic stuff.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FPPToDb6oxk/Vrpn_groyqI/AAAAAAAAFuo/G94mbzYOh6s/s1280-Ic42/IMG_0443.JPG)

Some WWI British troops, for 1916+. I've gone for a bit of variety in shades of uniforms, webbing and especially helmets, to give a bit more of a rag-tag late war look.

Its good to paint some historical stuff again, and good to paint 10mm too.

After Phil mentioning good, bright photos - the above is anything but  ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 10 February 2016, 08:22:26 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's still lovely and crisp, though !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 February 2016, 10:26:46 AM
Nice one Forbes!  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 February 2016, 10:51:34 PM
Mainly un-painting this weekend - I stripped the paint from a couple of large Epic models, and a unit of WM kislev knights. I don't know what paint was used on the kislev figures, but its tough stuff. The other two models have come pretty clean, but the knights are 60% plus still paint...

Played a very dull game of Epic on Friday - IG tanks vs Tyranids - the tanks set a range and shot and the nids who hid in buildings. Fundamentally I think we had too much table for the troops - which made two diametrically different armies give a very poor game.

On Saturday managed to get in a second sneaky game of the week - this time of Irregular Wars, this was just the second game with these rules, but it was good fun again, with a swirling battle of of Steppe Khanate light horse, vs Arabian camels and spearmen. But I stupidly forgot to take any photos - which probably means that the game was so involving that it never occurred to me to stop and take photos.

I also got an email from Leon to say my order was on its way - which mainly comprises lots of European troops for Irregular wars. The only problem is it is going to arrive with 1 or 2 other heavy packages - and all during half-term week, so no sneaking any in!!

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 February 2016, 11:50:52 PM
Stick them in the dishwasher...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 February 2016, 12:43:15 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 14 February 2016, 11:50:52 PM
Stick them in the dishwasher...

Is that to hide the parcels or get the paint off? Not sure that washing figures will meet with domestic approval - or if the figures won't disappear into the workings of the dish washer.

Concluded a very pleasant trade with Mad Lemmy today - so much more fun to trade excess figures than sell them for a couple of quid!



Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 February 2016, 12:50:40 PM
Stick them in a seive, run the dishwasher empty, the tablet blasts the paint off!
Top basket helps, if your really worried, take the bottom basket out, stick another seive over the filter, and tell the Mrs that you're running a cleaning cycle on the magic-box-of-cleanliness! ;)

And the trading was most pleasurable, I think I might be slightly up on the deal though! ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 February 2016, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 15 February 2016, 12:50:40 PM
Stick them in a seive, run the dishwasher empty, the tablet blasts the paint off!
Top basket helps, if your really worried, take the bottom basket out, stick another seive over the filter, and tell the Mrs that you're running a cleaning cycle on the magic-box-of-cleanliness! ;)
OK - might have to try this next time the dishwasher needs 'cleaning'. I was thinking of getting a mate who has a sonicator (aka sonic bath) see if it can do its magic to remove the paint.

Quote from: mad lemmey on 15 February 2016, 12:50:40 PM
And the trading was most pleasurable, I think I might be slightly up on the deal though! ;D
Me too - so that sounds like a win win, then.

And look what was waiting when I got home - a big box of Pendraken (and Minibits) loveliness.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ADkwn6-gwzo/VsIFf_kwqGI/AAAAAAAAFvM/_EFeG-kkJyw/s912-Ic42/IMG_0445.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 February 2016, 05:11:36 PM
That's a HUGE box!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 February 2016, 05:16:58 PM
I know I didn't think I'd ordered that much. I think it's the bases adding a lot of volume!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 15 February 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Bet your postman loved you as he lugged a cubit foot of lead to the door.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 February 2016, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: fsn on 15 February 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Bet your postman loved you as he lugged a cubit foot of lead to the door.

Its good for him! Its only a 6 inch square box, so that's only 1/8 of a cubic foot of lead.

The shiney contents of the box

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1aNdGBdd6R4/VsITzzUyzbI/AAAAAAAAFvs/wJWsYU_8Mvc/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0446.JPG)

There were also a fair few bases and a couple of paints.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 February 2016, 06:50:15 PM
Medievals?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 February 2016, 06:58:24 PM
I think I can see ELM codes on some of the packs, so I'd guess you're right, Will.  :)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 February 2016, 07:02:50 PM
ELM13, 19 & 12
ER1&4
FW3
EL2,3 7 & 14 and maybe 15?
Maybe it's Renaissance
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 February 2016, 07:25:33 PM
Mainly Rennaisance. Some ELM codes for Irish & Scots. Mainly ECW and 30YW. These are to make European Companies for Irregular Wars, hence a right mix of stuff including a bunch of half packs (thanks Leon!). 
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 15 February 2016, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: fred. on 15 February 2016, 07:25:33 PM
(thanks Leon!). 

No worries!   8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: andys on 15 February 2016, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: fred. on 15 February 2016, 05:16:58 PM
I know I didn't think I'd ordered that much. I think it's the bases adding a lot of volume!!
They all say that  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 February 2016, 09:19:05 PM
On Friday night played a couple of games of Irregular Wars - the games are nice and quick (about 90mins) so easily able to get two in on one night. Played Imperialists against Poles. My Imperialists won both games - the first one convincingly, the second was very close, with many casualties on both sides, and both Leaders being killed in the same combat in the last turn. The combination of Pike blocks and lots of infantry shooting make the Imperial army very tough. Really enjoying these rules - which is good as that pile of lead pictured above is for them!

Managed to get a little painting and some basing done - the WWI infantry and tank for the painting comp. Fortunately I've got a morning off this week, so hopefully will be able to catch up with painting comp stuff, so I can get it photographed next weekend - making the most of the closing date being on a Monday.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 February 2016, 09:33:03 PM
The first game

The Poles led by their Peasant Hordes move forward to the Imperial line. On the right the Polish Dragoons have moved forward quickly and engaged in a fire fight

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vxeCHn8Qeq0/VsorjYT6S2I/AAAAAAAAFwg/OneJy00r1QU/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0448.JPG)
On the right my badly deployed Cuirassiers flounder in the rocky ground - but eventually they would prove decisive  - catching a unit in the flank, destroying them, which caused loses of other units through the sight of friends routing, then managing to repeat their success with their follow-up charge.

The middle of the second battle - on strangely similar terrain
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The sneaky Poles had just played a chance card, causing all my units to be out of command - for most not too much happened, but two units of shot blundered forwards to be pounced on my Polish cavalry - hence the tangled mess of cavalry in the middle, and my less than perfect battle line. But the Poles couldn't further capitalise on this success, and things swung back my way.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 February 2016, 11:23:10 PM
Looks like a heck of a pair of games!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 22 February 2016, 06:10:28 AM
And great fun, too !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 February 2016, 09:58:39 AM
We are finding Irregular Wars much fun! It is a very chaotic set of rules, but this seems to represent the period in question. The battles are tactically interesting, but not so big they take forever to play. Well worth a £12 investment - and Pendraken has lots of figures for the era too.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 February 2016, 06:49:24 PM
Had a bonus morning to myself, so was able to make very good progress with stuff for the painting comp.

I think I'm about there with the individual entries - and can review my army entry over the next couple of evenings.

Here is a distant shot, so that Phil doesn't feel embarrassed about commenting on stuff that might be competition entries or not...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_h01X7FE5IM/Vsyo_ZzJqjI/AAAAAAAAFxM/UD6KkYwD5V0/s912-Ic42/IMG_0454.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 February 2016, 07:05:22 PM
Nice work Forbes!  8)

(Gotta love the zoom on an iPad)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 23 February 2016, 07:53:44 PM
Quote from: fred. on 23 February 2016, 06:49:24 PM

Here is a distant shot, so that Phil doesn't feel embarrassed about commenting on stuff that might be competition entries or not...

Now, that's what I call really thoughtful, Forbes.  ;)
You've still got more room on your cutting mat than I have, at the moment.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 February 2016, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 23 February 2016, 07:05:22 PM
(Gotta love the zoom on an iPad)

Very CSI!!

Quote from: Techno on 23 February 2016, 07:53:44 PM

You've still got more room on your cutting mat than I have, at the moment.


I had a bit of a tidy up to make space for the painting comp stuff - so all the epic bits, and other stuff was carefully put away in boxes. Considering how small all the figures are they don't half take up a lot of space once you put them in boxes to organise them nicely.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 February 2016, 10:35:07 PM
I enjoyed painting the WWI British infantry for the painting comp, so I've been painting some more!

I don't know how long ago I sprayed these 9 sticks worth of figures - but a fair while ago.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gttReFS7GqQ/Vs-As08411I/AAAAAAAAFx4/0pOxam3CctA/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0455.JPG)
Got the back 3 sticks painted last night, made some progress on the front 3 sticks, spending a bit of time trying to find out the colours of the flying pig mortars but with no great success. It seems the toffee apple bombs were yellowish with a red stripe.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 25 February 2016, 10:56:37 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 February 2016, 11:11:00 PM
Nice one Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 26 February 2016, 03:48:35 AM
From memory a yellow shell means it is HE and the red band indicates it has been filled :-\
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 February 2016, 07:34:00 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: paulr on 26 February 2016, 03:48:35 AM
From memory a yellow shell means it is HE and the red band indicates it has been filled :-\

From my reading I'm pretty sure that yellow is HE
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 February 2016, 11:33:51 PM
Bit more work on the WWI British

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vJ8IIaguetY/VtTUWZ5zxDI/AAAAAAAAF4I/6_FJY4Q5osg/s1280-Ic42/IMG_0484.JPG)

these guys are getting close to being done. This should give me a Brigade in GWSH terms - with a few divisional heavy mortars

Also cleaned up some 30YW cavalry to hope to spray in the next day or two.

But mainly spent the evening on the phone to my Dad trying to resolve some computer issue where he had changed the date incorrectly on several thousand photos. Thank goodness for remote access and time machine backup - finally got it sorted after about 90mins.  :o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 March 2016, 12:19:02 AM
Yowch!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 March 2016, 10:26:05 PM
Haven't had much time to paint over the weekend - but managed to get some time last night and tonight, to move forward these WWI British.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G0Uj_O-lJ7o/VuCi0-eNT4I/AAAAAAAAF6I/amQTQS4Q73E/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0555.JPG)

The photo is a bit dark - and the figures are shiny as they have had a coat of magic wash, they will get some matt varnish tomorrow.

This is another 6 painting sticks cleared - they had been sitting on the sticks so long the double-sided tape was starting to loose its stickiness on some figures!

I've gone for a slightly rag-tag look with different helmet colours, to represent both the green and brown paint, and the different covers. Also I have used a few shades for uniforms and webbing - to try to represent the length of service and multitude of suppliers.

These chaps along with the 6 stands from the other week give me a Brigade for GWSH, along with a few divisional level extras; cavalry, heavy mortars.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 09 March 2016, 10:45:06 PM
Looking good Fred

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 March 2016, 10:53:01 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 March 2016, 10:59:56 PM
Thanks chaps - I've enjoyed painting these figures.

I've just updated my WWI thread over on LAF, and seen it was summer 2014 last time I painted WWI stuff...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 09 March 2016, 11:00:33 PM
 :-bd :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 March 2016, 11:27:13 PM
WWI British
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TX_B_yPaKW4/VuICEchB15I/AAAAAAAAF68/2aAhDajlCpAcZqlrjUUshUiNCxdEa4Y_wCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0556.JPG)

Added some highlights to the bases, and some water effects (that isn't quite dry yet!) and matt varnished the figures. I think these are done now. Which gives 16 stands of infantry, 4 MGs, 2 mortars and a HQ, which is a full GWSH Brigade at 1 stand = 1 company. And on the left a few Divisional level heavy mortars.

Up next some Renaissance Cavalry
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5a5UjmsVmyw/VuICETQBuxI/AAAAAAAAF68/J7U2YwXy1nMz9e8ZAcrlLFCBijBTk31SACCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0557.JPG)

Just filled in the many gaps left from spraying these guys
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 March 2016, 11:36:32 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 March 2016, 06:26:52 AM
Damn fine stuff, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 March 2016, 07:39:10 AM
Thanks chaps.

I will get back to WWI fairly seen, but want to get the Renaissance chaps done then the Epic squats
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 March 2016, 10:45:08 AM
Thought they looked familiar...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 March 2016, 09:59:37 PM
Played Irregular Wars again on Friday - 4 commands a side, battle was a bit big, and we chatted too much to reach a conclusion. But our group is really liking these rules.

Have some photos of the last few games but need to sort them out.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fYICIyEz8LQ/VuSQjeveqGI/AAAAAAAAF8Q/FHEmQuvXwwE6YmN__sRJXsYehKIWiqJ9QCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0579.JPG)

Got a bit of painting done this afternoon - the Renaissance cavalry - mainly just blocking in the horse colours and a bit of a start on some of the riders. I'm finding I'm a bit unsure of colours for this era.

Found this cracking thread (http://www.warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8915) over on Warlord games, full of 10mm 30YW goodness
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 13 March 2016, 07:12:00 AM
Looking particularly good, Forbes !  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 13 March 2016, 09:42:31 AM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 March 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Looking great Forbes!  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 March 2016, 11:05:37 AM
Thanks guys. Any thoughts on painting the black armour, so it doesn't look so black!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 March 2016, 01:05:31 PM
Steel/gunmetal, then couple of coats of watery black wash...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 March 2016, 01:09:15 PM
Highlight with dark grey, very dark blue or very dark green depending on the effect required.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 March 2016, 01:10:38 PM
Sounds a good idea. Brad's in the painting comp had a fair bit of metallic paint on them.

In museums the look flat black - but this is too dark at this scale I think.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 13 March 2016, 03:52:42 PM
They also had russeted armour which I'm assuming is a deepy, rusty, metallicy colour and blued armour which is a tad self explanatory- a really dark blue so I would be tempted to mix Prussian Blue with a snippsy bit of gunmetal. More so on breatplates than anything else.

That thread is very interesting, by the way, great find.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 March 2016, 10:56:23 PM
Bit more work on the Ren Cavalry

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-62za9xJMeoY/VudBE7bnjoI/AAAAAAAAF84/j5aNZUY-A98leZ39XGkjZZg1M1t4MWnqgCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0650.JPG)

Haven't had a go at the armour yet - mainly working on the Croat Horse - trying to make them look consistent without being all the same.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 14 March 2016, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: fred. on 14 March 2016, 10:56:23 PM
... mainly working on the Croat Horse - trying to make them look consistent without being all the same.

Always an interesting challenge ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 14 March 2016, 11:42:13 PM
Looking good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2016, 07:18:59 AM
Definitely a challenge
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 March 2016, 08:05:51 AM
Those are going to look spiffy !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 March 2016, 10:24:05 PM
Few more colours, and based up the cavalry.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-REUoCNfa8Nk/VuiKun6vO7I/AAAAAAAAF9k/fJYmkc66A0EkxFahHJD12cEKr6q_kN_KgCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0651.JPG)
Harquebusier at the back, Dragoons in the middle, and Reiters nearest the camera, Croat horse to the right


Close up of the Reiters with blued armour - looks rather washed out in the photo
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-II71UmrCIX4/VuiKuvvKuPI/AAAAAAAAF9k/DGK6d5J1xE8ahj8--BRAnYXPFjs_leoqgCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0654.JPG)

Next steps are some highlights / shading of the clothing.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 15 March 2016, 10:57:00 PM
Coming along nicely

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2016, 11:28:16 PM
Very nice indeed Forbes! :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 16 March 2016, 07:00:46 AM
Told you they were going to look spiffy !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 16 March 2016, 07:02:13 AM
Those are looking really good.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 16 March 2016, 07:14:42 AM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 16 March 2016, 10:05:51 AM
Yep, like them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 March 2016, 10:34:20 PM
Bit of a change of tack tonight - fancied something simple, rather than detailing of the cavalry

So some sheeps and Chinese Rockets for the Mongols

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T-efubfLTI8/VuswU91kQLI/AAAAAAAAF-M/MZJC3IkG15MYopKEjji68V0CWKbGJfsEQCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0655.JPG)

All are Irregular. The Sheep really were super quick to paint, I also have some cows to paint up too, to give me some bases to either act as scenery or as loot counters for raid scenarios.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 18 March 2016, 06:05:40 AM
Nice, Forbes ! 8)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 March 2016, 07:11:41 AM
Nice one!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 18 March 2016, 07:38:45 AM
BAAAA that man


ok i'm leaving

IanS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 18 March 2016, 10:37:05 AM
Very nice indeed I also have some of there cows and sheep

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 18 March 2016, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: fred. on 17 March 2016, 10:34:20 PM
Bit of a change of tack tonight - fancied something simple, rather than detailing of the cavalry

So some sheeps and Chinese Rockets for the Mongols

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T-efubfLTI8/VuswU91kQLI/AAAAAAAAF-M/MZJC3IkG15MYopKEjji68V0CWKbGJfsEQCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0655.JPG)

All are Irregular. The Sheep really were super quick to paint, I also have some cows to paint up too, to give me some bases to either act as scenery or as loot counters for raid scenarios.

I know the Mongols had quite a list of things they used in sieges but I didn't know they used rocket fired sheep! 

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 March 2016, 07:21:59 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 March 2016, 10:42:20 PM
A few bits and pieces done over the weekend, I decided to do some limited rebasing - mainly taking stuff on 20x20mm squares and sticking them on to 40mm square bases. This should have been straight forward, but I needed to remove the magnetic sheet from the bottom of the bases (easy) and the rare earth magnets (hard).

I had a good go at doing a 'Techno' while removing the magnets with a scalpel - not quite as bad as it sounds, as I did manage to snap the scalpel blade in half, before I stuck it in my finger - so just a couple of big drops of blood, rather than a trip to A&E!

Also stuck sand on bases, and painted them brown tonight

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v2XT4ZFeLAA/VvB3lhG3NWI/AAAAAAAAF-8/nwMi8z23tOgcIf6KEzJrSFotKGqv0ItZgCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0659.JPG)

Spent much of the evening fighting with the washing machine, trying to get the drive belt back on - seems to be under a huge amount of tension - so keeps twisting off to the inside. Found a couple of youtube videos that make it look a dead simple - as it always is when done by an expert! Will give it another go tomorrow when my knees have decompressed. Why is kitchen DIY always in the most awkward of places...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 March 2016, 12:10:19 AM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 22 March 2016, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: fred. on 21 March 2016, 10:42:20 PM

I had a good go at doing a 'Techno' while removing the magnets with a scalpel - not quite as bad as it sounds, as I did manage to snap the scalpel blade in half, before I stuck it in my finger - so just a couple of big drops of blood, rather than a trip to A&E.

Amateur !  ;)

Glad that wasn't too bad, Forbes...And good for you for having a go at the washing machine !

The figures look belting !

Cheers - Phil (Who got bitten by trying to adjust some brand new 'snap traps' over the weekend......And I was being SO bloody careful with them. Thought I'd broken the index finger on my right hand.........
"*&%£ !", that DID hurt.......but I did manage to put a half inch split my left thumb, which is just about healed now.  X_X...was damn sore mixing putty, yesterday, though )
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 March 2016, 07:44:55 AM
Bloody Hell Phil! Leon must have kittens every time he reads one of your notes involving some kind of accident.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 22 March 2016, 07:52:09 AM
All the time my luck holds, though............(Famous last words.  X_X)

Cheers - Captain Scarlet.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 March 2016, 08:26:01 AM
Doooooooomed!  :o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 March 2016, 10:58:52 PM
More basing

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Mq2-XUqA8YU/VvHNg19wktI/AAAAAAAAF_o/0cy0syoej3YL8BEwsGJqyUIj7y5VP4ddgCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0660.JPG)

Now spotted a great big round hole in one of the pike bases - how have I not spotted that before!!

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 23 March 2016, 06:19:27 AM
They look excellent, Forbes !  :-bd

(I can't see the hole in the pike bases.) :-\

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 March 2016, 07:24:51 AM
Nice one Forbes! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 March 2016, 07:35:47 AM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: Techno on 23 March 2016, 06:19:27 AM
They look excellent, Forbes !  :-bd

(I can't see the hole in the pike bases.) :-\

Cheers - Phil

No the hole isn't visible in the photo - I only saw the moment after I had taken the photo. It's from the removal of one of the magnets. A bit of brown paint made it much less visible.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 March 2016, 07:16:14 PM
Got a fair bit done this weekend!

First up some photos of Mongols who where painted a while ago, but only based today - got some photos in the sunshine!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w8yXHPRxiCI/VvmBnAxP4nI/AAAAAAAAGAo/LyQqaTBis6YqHTbht2BJkfvbXiPQLQUwwCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0680.JPG)

And a close up
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2rfr9byRc8c/VvmBnP0WZnI/AAAAAAAAGAo/tiGf5qWShNUrco42sIG-jAuMOdhZ6JIxwCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0681.JPG)

The rockets are Irregular - and are quite nice, which isn't always true.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 March 2016, 07:36:08 PM
Superb Forbes! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 28 March 2016, 08:42:49 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 March 2016, 08:54:12 PM
Thanks chaps, the sunlight has really helped lift the photos.

Now some ones taken indoors after I finished lots more basing.

Pikes - EL4 I think, painted in quite drab colours and black munition armour to be militia pike against the brightly painted landschkneckt pike.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4XWzjw18Nzc/VvmYmO0AdnI/AAAAAAAAGBo/QebrIrCeHzoS5hqwW-ISQiK-czICqWIjwCCo/s912-Ic42/IMG_0684.JPG)

And speaking of Landskenckts...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-81n70NM1_2E/VvmYmJac0uI/AAAAAAAAGB0/844J19VJSqQue6i6tBk1m2SNVD_8nG0uwCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0689.JPG)
Warmonger Handgunners - painted a while ago, but only based today.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j0LfoYXTXZ4/VvmYmIpcIFI/AAAAAAAAGB0/6ZccxuNUm-kZGbqPcBqOC9wuZaTgNXMQQCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0691.JPG)
And some new black and yellow ones
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 March 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Flodden MAA

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HfkpEagr440/VvmYmIPfkCI/AAAAAAAAGB0/-CKjh04m5MYfnqvnC5lsdPm5-M84MDv9QCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0692.JPG)

Giant Spiders - painted ages ago, but only based today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eeaGnlLMu80/VvmYmHjdn5I/AAAAAAAAGB0/JJTMZPqdFSQFIHE24Wl4DbcW9NSQgCxpwCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0694.JPG)

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 March 2016, 09:00:44 PM
And finally...

Cows, from Irregular Miniatures
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AZ7JgXb6q2s/VvmbX5f5LuI/AAAAAAAAGCE/xr7epwq90CUAD7gZyhOKTy3S_fkXAD3FgCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0696.JPG)

And up next

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h_AC4yxGDmk/VvmBnLr4ZbI/AAAAAAAAGAo/V5xnGhp6HJgjwxRb0RrXPKG1Py1O7rAlwCCo/s912-Ic42/IMG_0679.JPG)

As well as the rest of the black and yellow hand gunners

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tazMLy8jH84/VvmYmHi0srI/AAAAAAAAGB0/Vx4_nqK31sEOxXqlRs3cplz2u3uLeYcfACCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0695.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 28 March 2016, 10:56:52 PM
Some good progress

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 28 March 2016, 11:33:01 PM
Great progress Fred

I managed to paint sod all this weekend  :(
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 29 March 2016, 06:29:11 AM
Great stuff, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 29 March 2016, 07:16:49 AM
Good work :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 March 2016, 08:11:46 AM
Brilliant Fred. Make mine look awful by comparison! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 29 March 2016, 09:24:22 AM
They are all very nice. Looks like you have a Chinese Rocket Army with some Mongols attached.  ;)

I have some of those Irregular rockets and agree with you, they are quite a good fit with Pendraken.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 March 2016, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 29 March 2016, 09:24:22 AM
They are all very nice. Looks like you have a Chinese Rocket Army with some Mongols attached.  ;)


;)

These are additions, I have quite a lot of cavalry already painted. But more is probably needed to tip the balance to better proportions.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 29 March 2016, 01:08:36 PM
So have you got any opposition for them and any idea on rules?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 March 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Sort of.

We have been playing a lot or Irregular Wars lately, which is Rennaissance, which has a Steppe Khanate list which is probably the great great grand children of these guys - but basically lots of guys on horses with bows. It plays well - you fire showers of arrows while maintaining distance then pick on damaged or isolated units to charge in and finish them off.

We are now moving to a Fantasy version - so the Mongols have a few additions (Eagles, Giant Sand Worms and Gollums) to help them against the Orcs and Undead.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 March 2016, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: Matt J on 28 March 2016, 11:33:01 PM
Great progress Fred

I managed to paint sod all this weekend  :(

Thanks Matt, I can 'blame' the weather as it was so changeable we did stuff around the house, and I got a lot of time for painting. Even if most of it was painting bases brown and sticking on flock. Both of which are fairly time consuming.

Quote from: mad lemmey on 29 March 2016, 08:11:46 AM
Brilliant Fred. Make mine look awful by comparison! 8)

Don't do yourself down mate!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 March 2016, 09:35:34 PM
Frogmen with crossbows

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yByd0HVcpUo/VvrxizzYnyI/AAAAAAAAGDE/yHbx0r9je28J2CBHxiQsaFOXJ3BDkK2_QCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0697.JPG)

Some Magister Militum figures I've had for a while - probably the fastest troops to paint ever! Grey under coat, wash of GW Asurmen Blue, dry brush of Vallejo Azure. Dark grey crossbows, and hot orange for quivers and eyes! (full recipe given as I've got the same again to paint).

The GW wash as usual acted like a stain, so I'm glad I put it on first and put the light blue on top.

Couple of bits of detailing to do, then they are done!

Much quicker than bloomin' Landskenckts (and easier to spell) with their slashed clothing.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 29 March 2016, 09:59:18 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 March 2016, 01:03:51 AM
Just done those slashes on my lanschnekt pikes!
At least they are finished, just got 24 cav to finish and tha little lot to base up! :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 30 March 2016, 04:59:22 AM
Very zippy, Forbes.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 March 2016, 08:45:55 PM
And they are based!

So not only were they very quick to paint, you can only get 4 on a base, so 8 stands from 1 pack!!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--ZsXaC4ueSE/Vv2MIxdFi1I/AAAAAAAAGDc/0uERUDcyDn0O8mPB-kEIELuJQ-hKkqhdQCCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0699.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 31 March 2016, 08:51:00 PM
That paint job might be simple but it's very effective.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 March 2016, 09:13:11 PM
Ta, I'm really pleased with how these have come out. As mentioned above, they were a very nice change of pace from the Landscheckts
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 April 2016, 05:56:05 AM
Works really well, Forbes !  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 01 April 2016, 07:31:33 AM
Looks good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 17 April 2016, 06:31:50 PM
Nice frog-lizzard-men
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 April 2016, 07:38:27 PM
Ta Jorge

Not much painting the last couple of weeks. I was away on holiday last week, and stuck together a few 28mm plastics - for Saga Crescent and Cross.

This week I have been having a look at our group's home brew fantasy mass battle rules - which we put a lot of effort into last year, but the project rather stalled under its own weight. After playing quite a bit of Irregular Wars, we had hopes it would scale up to big battles and cross over to Fantasy. But it didn't quite - while Irregular Wars gives a great game when played as is - we decided that it wasn't quite the right basis for big battles. So we have had a re-focus on the aims of our rules, and I've had another go and squashing together all the ideas we have liberated from other games. A trial game on Friday, actual worked, we'd expected an extended work through and many changes, but actually were able to play a game!

On Saturday when I was tidying away the figures and scenery from the game, I decided to have a bit of a sort through the cupboard with the gaming stuff in, a mad idea, but it really was getting out of control!

I found the following that had been rather forgotten about

Brigade Models 2mm houses, made into village and urban bases for GWSH
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-83GjyRflpTs/VxPkzn2IJvI/AAAAAAAAGFA/Jv5ypcTUgEMsQ-t0WHqmjAiPT2Js4kcIwCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0826.JPG)

And this box of Saxon buildings, and Mongol Gers and some castle walls
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-swFkVeEIIgo/VxPkzgjIfnI/AAAAAAAAGFA/7eybzqYLP7w3jmNpj6yLggc0kdtIugtDACCo/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0828.JPG)

I also found a box of blue foam that I had bought a couple (or more...) years ago. And inspired by recent posts on LAF showing how easy it is to make stuff from blue foam, I got out the craft knife and made this

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rXx8IYku6A8/VxPkzlUaSMI/AAAAAAAAGFA/RJiSZBcwoec4Ff7m00CXY0W9_fdMfORwwCCo/s1024-Ic42/IMG_0834.JPG)
An Aztec style temple - it only took about 20 mins to cut out the main pieces - it took rather longer to inscribe the stones
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 April 2016, 07:52:28 PM
Have you got a link for that temple build?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 April 2016, 08:18:58 PM
No, I just made it up in my own head!

The threads on LAF were about building Heroquest like dungeons, and some Frostgrave stuff. They inspired me with their simplicity and speed, rather than directly giving me a template to follow.

The temple is a 21cm square, on 2-3cm thick blue foam, with a 15cm square on top, and a 9cm one on top of that. The ramps - which will become stairs are 3cm wide.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 April 2016, 08:24:15 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 18 April 2016, 04:51:09 PM
nice nice 2mm.... I like the scale, and those builings are super
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 April 2016, 05:57:56 PM
They are nice aren't they. They are very crisp castings, and there is loads of variety in the ranges. I won these as a prize from Miniature Wargames - if buying them I'd probably go for more urban houses, rather than so many of the big grand buildings.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 April 2016, 06:05:15 PM
I got their Mediterranean pack to use as scenery with my 2mm Renaissance stuff to alongside my Tumbling Dice Armada ships.

The GWSH bases look rather splendid.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 18 April 2016, 06:17:39 PM
Nice scribing on the Aztec pyramid. 2mm houses look tasty as well.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 April 2016, 08:34:42 PM
Thanks - I must get some paint on the 2mm bases. Should be pretty quick too.

The scribing on the Aztec temple has gone very well - I'm pleased both with the ease and speed. I'm trying to put a bit of 3d, to break up the blockiness, so I have pushed in a few 'stones' the black ones and will probably add a little bit of green stuff to a few to raise them slightly - perhaps more on the vertical walls than the floors. What was surprising is how quickly the foam blunts a pencil used to scribe them. I tried a sharpened cocktail stick (and bamboo skewer) but both seemed too sharp and tended to create a rough cut, rather than the pencil which makes a good impression into the foam.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 18 April 2016, 08:37:16 PM
A pencil for scribing, that is a useful tip

It also explains the grey around the stones ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 April 2016, 09:25:14 PM
It does, and it makes it easy to see what you have done!

Others seem to use biros rather than pencils.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 April 2016, 08:03:09 PM
No painting again this week - too busy ferrying children around - what hobby time I have had was spent on rules tweaking following last week's game.

Got a game in last night, using our new rules - quite amazingly we only made one tweak to the rules!! So we might be getting somewhere.

The left flank towards the start of the battle
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nFVXoBs3rmI/VxvTJF48wzI/AAAAAAAAGGQ/QCzfxIQC6HEB9L-QXW4YQv7Gd3unaD5vwCCo/s1152/IMG_0854.JPG)
My pikes and dwarfs face off against rather a lot of goblins and trolls

The right flank - if rather blurry
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AwMnKI8YWPM/VxvTJNdvqSI/AAAAAAAAGGQ/1VXL8FEuyYYxWdWT8qQ8DCsprF7vNETjACCo/s1024/IMG_0853.JPG)
My knights have been engaged by rather a lot of boar riders - and were soon to be obliterated.
While my shooters struggle to crest the hill. When they finally got into position - they did manage to shoot up a bunch of chariots, who tried to cross in front of them.

It was a good game - it initially was in the goblins favour, but I pulled it back a bit, then the goblins got their cavalry re-grouped and caused lots more damage to me, winning convincingly in the end.

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 April 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 23 April 2016, 08:53:45 PM
Hello

The game looks great. Are you you going to do any write-ups on your rules? Being a rules junkie just the mention of new rules can set me off :). It looks like your using 40 x 40 base?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
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Post by: FierceKitty on 23 April 2016, 08:56:47 PM
Empty howdah?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 April 2016, 09:14:31 PM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: FierceKitty on 23 April 2016, 08:56:47 PM
Empty howdah?
Yep, and only 1 tusk! Really could do to get this model finished, its only been some/many years since it was first fielded!

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 23 April 2016, 08:53:45 PM
The game looks great. Are you you going to do any write-ups on your rules? Being a rules junkie just the mention of new rules can set me off :). It looks like your using 40 x 40 base?

Yes, 40x40mm base is a unit (often made from 2 40x20mm WM bases together). We have been trying to put together some home brew rules for quite a while now, trying to move on from WM which a couple of members of our group love (though in a rather abstract simplified form) and a couple hate, and I'm a bit in both camps. We put a lot of effort last year in trying to build some new rules - but the project ground to a halt under its own weight.  And we rather stopped playing 10mm Fantasy for a while, which was a shame as we all have lots (and lots) of figures.

At the start of this year we started playing Irregular Wars - which is a Renaissance set of rules around the exploration of the New World - this is a really good set of rules, and we tried to scale it up to play big fantasy battles - but its a small battle set of rules, and didn't scale as we wanted it to. This led to a revisiting of of the home brew rules - and over the last couple of weeks we have come up with a hybrid of many things - that seems to work.

We now need to share this with the rest of our gaming group and see if they think it works as a game  :o

So remind me in a couple of weeks, and I'd be happy to share. Not that they may be written anywhere near well enough to play from just the document!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 23 April 2016, 10:00:37 PM
Hello

Quote from: fred. on 23 April 2016, 09:14:31 PM
So remind me in a couple of weeks, and I'd be happy to share. Not that they may be written anywhere near well enough to play from just the document!

It sounds great. I mean if you've got that amount of 10mm fantasy that is shown in the photographs, it would be a waste not to use them :). I can readily understand that it can be hard to scale up a small scale rule set for large battles - different priorities, emphases etc. It's intriguing that the rules have come from a movement away from WM.

I wouldn't worry about the clarity of writing, they can't be worse than some of the commercial sets I've bought :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 24 April 2016, 06:08:26 AM
Looking damn fine, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Womble67 on 24 April 2016, 08:59:45 AM
Looks really good fred

Take care

Andy
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Post by: Bodvoc on 24 April 2016, 09:28:35 AM
I agree, all looks good to me :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 April 2016, 08:21:48 PM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 23 April 2016, 10:00:37 PM
I can readily understand that it can be hard to scale up a small scale rule set for large battles - different priorities, emphases etc. It's intriguing that the rules have come from a movement away from WM.

Several of us had become so fed up of WM games that we stopped wanting to play games, even though one of our group is still very keen on WM.

We recently had a discussion about what we would fix to make WM playable for us. The list was long, and varied, and really there was so much most of us wanted to change it really didn't seem to be WM any more.

I think the key things we don't enjoy any more would include:
* Too many failed orders - I know its a core part of the game, but the chance of failure is too high. And can continue for many turns.
* Too many passed orders - less of a problem, but can break a game when the Elven (its nearly always the elven) cavalry sweeps round the whole table.
* Knight type cavalry too strong.
* Combats too long winded and too fiddly
* The buttocks of death (where it is better for light troops, and especially flyers) to position themselves behind a combat, rather than joining in.
* and plenty more...

Its not to say that WM is all bad, it certainly can provide memorable games (or moments within games), but it also provides bad games.

For the new rules we have kept the idea of WM style commanders and brigades, but dropped the chance of failed orders to 10%, and capped successes at 2. This still provides friction and uncertainty but seems to play more smoothly (this is similar to Epic 40k too).
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 April 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Seems like a good game fred and looks good too.

However, I've been a big fan of Warmaster since it came out. Or, more accurately, since just before it came out.

I like the uncertainty of the Command system. High Elf command became much less certain as army sizes grew.

I found combat, if anything, too brief.

I had no problem with the "buttocks of death" as I was used to it from DBA days.

I LIKED the fact that knights were death-on-four-legs. It's fantasy not historical gaming. In the source literature noble knights pound the grubby footsloggers into the ground on a regular basis.

Also (pet hate), there are no real pikes or skirmishers in any of the fantasy I've read. Fantasy authors seem to have no idea how either of those work! So you don't need them in fantasy rules.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 24 April 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: fred. on 24 April 2016, 08:21:48 PM
Thanks chaps.

Several of us had become so fed up of WM games that we stopped wanting to play games, even though one of our group is still very keen on WM.

We recently had a discussion about what we would fix to make WM playable for us. The list was long, and varied, and really there was so much most of us wanted to change it really didn't seem to be WM any more.

I think the key things we don't enjoy any more would include:
* Too many failed orders - I know its a core part of the game, but the chance of failure is too high. And can continue for many turns.
* Too many passed orders - less of a problem, but can break a game when the Elven (its nearly always the elven) cavalry sweeps round the whole table.
* Knight type cavalry too strong.
* Combats too long winded and too fiddly
* The buttocks of death (where it is better for light troops, and especially flyers) to position themselves behind a combat, rather than joining in.
* and plenty more...

Its not to say that WM is all bad, it certainly can provide memorable games (or moments within games), but it also provides bad games.

For the new rules we have kept the idea of WM style commanders and brigades, but dropped the chance of failed orders to 10%, and capped successes at 2. This still provides friction and uncertainty but seems to play more smoothly (this is similar to Epic 40k too).


Hello

These all sound like great additions/modifications. Being a solo player (mainly) I've also been looking at trying to graft on a Lardies style activation or maybe RRTK solo stuff. Just now going through WMA and WMMA to see what I can 'borrow' there :). I've also come across Chronicles of Blood and will see if I can get my attention wandering sons inspired.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 25 April 2016, 07:01:24 PM
Hi Fred, just as a reader of your Diary, can I ask you:

The three friends that do not like WM, which ruleset mechanic they like/propose/enjoy?

It is just curiosity.

regards, and hope you will find a balance to enjoy the hobby with your mates that is really what wargaming is about!

Keep posting the rules direction of your gorup!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 April 2016, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 25 April 2016, 07:01:24 PM
The three friends that do not like WM, which ruleset mechanic they like/propose/enjoy?

That my friend, is the question!! And it's one that is very hard to answer.

The problem is that different people like different things in rules - and perhaps more importantly really dislike certain things. In trying different rules over the last couple of years, its often far more about how someone sees a rule and what it represents rather than any literal interpretation of it. Also it seems very hard for people to be able to express what makes a good set of rules and what makes a set unplayable - and this is all individual personal opinion - so when there is a group of 6 or more it gets pretty complex.

Ultimately what we all want is to get together to play big games with a few players a side, preferably finishing a game in an evening, as getting everyone together two weeks in a row to finish a big game is hard work.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 April 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Seems like a good game fred and looks good too.

However, I've been a big fan of Warmaster since it came out. Or, more accurately, since just before it came out.

I like the uncertainty of the Command system. High Elf command became much less certain as army sizes grew.

I found combat, if anything, too brief.

I had no problem with the "buttocks of death" as I was used to it from DBA days.

I LIKED the fact that knights were death-on-four-legs. It's fantasy not historical gaming. In the source literature noble knights pound the grubby footsloggers into the ground on a regular basis.

Also (pet hate), there are no real pikes or skirmishers in any of the fantasy I've read. Fantasy authors seem to have no idea how either of those work! So you don't need them in fantasy rules.



Its great that WM works for you, and your view of a fantasy battle. Many fantasy authors kind of gloss over the details of the battles - preferring the exploits of the hero in one little bit, so the 'source' material is a bit thin on details, hence why we fall back on historical stuff to try to give some depth to our understanding of what 'should' happen.

I think it was less a problem with any of the above individually in WM, just that they became the norm, and really the only way to win. With the compulsory infantry often just being seen as something to hide at the back to protect your break point.

One of the last games we played was 4 players tying to capture the middle of the table, and in the game almost no fighting happened as everyone kept failing command rolls, and couldn't get their troops moving. It ended with the Chaos player making multiple command success and conga lining a load of troops from reserve right into the winning zone.

We like the idea of command rolls, and a lack of certainty just not the rather high failure rate of WM.

GoM
I guess a summery of our latest iteration of the rules would be
* Commanders and Brigades from Warmaster
* Unit sizes, movement and flank attacks from Irregular Wars
* Orders, Stat Lines and Melee are from the first version of our rules. Stat lines are heavily influenced by Kings of War. Melee is fairly standard number of attacks, roll to hit, roll to wound - but d10 based.



Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 25 April 2016, 10:59:17 PM
Hello

Quote from: fred. on 25 April 2016, 08:00:32 PM
GoM
I guess a summery of our latest iteration of the rules would be
* Commanders and Brigades from Warmaster
* Unit sizes, movement and flank attacks from Irregular Wars
* Orders, Stat Lines and Melee are from the first version of our rules. Stat lines are heavily influenced by Kings of War. Melee is fairly standard number of attacks, roll to hit, roll to wound - but d10 based.

This does sound very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing them. I've read the reviews of Irregular Wars and was looking at them a few years ago, but not actually played them. They sound interesting and I'm just off to Wargames Vault (least I can do since my figures feature in some of the AARs :) ). I see that large games are the exception rather than the rule:-

http://irregularwars.blogspot.com.au/2016/03/big-battle-irregular-wars.html (http://irregularwars.blogspot.com.au/2016/03/big-battle-irregular-wars.html)

But if they encourage you to drink then that is a bonus  :):-

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fvfv6_xEgbo/Vts8CGUYfOI/AAAAAAAAECo/qico8kUoe7Q/s1600/2%2Bstart%2BEnlish%2Bfacing%2Bour%2Bleft.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 April 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Those are my figures  :)

But not my beer  :(

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 26 April 2016, 06:52:05 AM
Quote from: fred. on 26 April 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Those are my figures  :)

But not my beer  :(



You win some, you lose some :)


Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 May 2016, 09:53:34 PM
Got the main bits of the Mayan temple scribed, glued and painted. Gone for a brown shade, might lighten up another shade yet.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KTPL6nF3Y08/Vypqs4nNrGI/AAAAAAAAGHg/LSFH61c_myotrxFPnU9_PIFKmdtibe5vQCCo/s1152/IMG_0871.JPG)

Also need to make the steps - but they seem a bit fiddly, so putting that off for a bit.


I've also finally got round to painting up some Epic Squats
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-utkFOYFrIAg/Vypt-ZlYl4I/AAAAAAAAGH4/5Pv2WePyVH4LZ5BXz5B_ewfqPGSiuD6WwCCo/s1152/IMG_0872.JPG)
Two Brotherhoods worth, one of Berserkers, with two pistols and red highlights, and one of Warriors, with blue highlights, rifles and rocket launchers.
These were super fast to paint - all done in a couple of evenings.
For my own reference the green is Vallejo Scorpion Green, and the Blue is Intense Blue,

Got lots more of these guys sprayed tonight.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 May 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Digging those Squats! Temple is great too! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 05 May 2016, 06:03:24 AM
Your temple is looking really good.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 May 2016, 11:38:23 AM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 05 May 2016, 12:51:46 PM
Sorry, Forbes  :-[.....Late to the party....

Those look great.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 May 2016, 10:48:51 AM
Played Epic on Friday, Space Marines vs Tau

The Tau are a new army to our group - so we are still learning about them. From their first outing a couple of weeks ago its was noted just how much anti-armour shooting they put out. And from looking at their stats, just how bad they are in close combat. So a plan was hatched for the Marines to close in as fast as possible!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d4GhJN8SSkw/Vy8VxYEb3SI/AAAAAAAAGI4/gcoeXNdKI5ocrA1QENamRRxcNvkX-H3_wCCo/s1280/IMG_0873.JPG)
Early stages, the Marine attack is looking to concentrate on the tower blocks in the middle, starting with an air strike, as the Tau had nicely bunched up here. Around this point we discovered how good the Tau AA is. But fortunately Imperial aircraft are well armoured.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l2fi28dGf40/Vy8VxbfA-zI/AAAAAAAAGI4/tmyj7_Vv6xsNsrl_P3BQEs8_A1cf91jkwCCo/s1280/IMG_0874.JPG)
Mid game - the SM bikes on the fly over are positioned to engage the Tau walkers on the flyover. Who have just pummelled the marines who had advanced, but are now cowering at the back of the table. In the centre the combined SM assault is about to clear the tower blocks. Barely seen on the far side the blood angels are sweeping round that flank.

The game finished (due to the lateness of the hour) with the main rocket launcher bunker contested by both sides, and each side holding one of the other two objectives. The Tau were fortunate in being able to launch a rocket, which has the narrative end to the game. If another turn had been fought - I'm not sure which way it would have gone. The Tau still had two very strong formations in the centre of the board. And most SM formations were damaged to a degree.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: lehcyfer on 08 May 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Nice game, and fine models and terrain :)

It will take some time to see through the thread - you are a very active gamer & painter I see ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 08 May 2016, 11:53:43 AM
Looks good fred

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 May 2016, 12:23:15 PM
Thanks chaps. I should have said that most of the stuff in those photos isn't mine - only the yellow marines are mine.

Quote from: lehcyfer on 08 May 2016, 11:40:23 AM
It will take some time to see through the thread - you are a very active gamer & painter I see ;)

Little and often - both with painting and playing. We have a good group locally and meet most Fridays for a game. I try to get some painting in most evenings which really helps keep projects moving.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 May 2016, 03:43:05 PM
Very, very impressive again, Forbes !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 May 2016, 08:44:18 PM
Ta Phil

Painted these Spanish swordsmen a little while ago, but only took photos today, took them into the conservatory to get good light, but not sure it really worked.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZBkHhzBjARM/Vy-kcDOGCMI/AAAAAAAAGKA/GxQjWGZkvzM1xGnhZmqfJ1lyrlqT0xV4ACCo/s1152/IMG_0877.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-STFDgMWxPzQ/Vy-kcN3XSyI/AAAAAAAAGKA/Cx97CQkYMQc0t6698TyLgF7ZW8w3p7cYgCCo/s1152/IMG_0878.JPG)

A pretty simple paint job, as they have a lot of armour. Went for some yellow stripes on the pants to give a spanish theme.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 08 May 2016, 10:53:15 PM
Very good Fred

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 09 May 2016, 05:35:22 AM
Very nice indeed , Forbes.  8)

Photos look fine, to me.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 May 2016, 08:01:27 AM
Superb Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 09 May 2016, 06:39:37 PM
Spanish swrodmen!! should I say the best option for your army!

nice paint!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 09 May 2016, 07:12:26 PM
That's what I shall be wanting mine to look like. Nice one.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 May 2016, 07:23:08 PM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: jchaos79 on 09 May 2016, 06:39:37 PM
Spanish swrodmen!! should I say the best option for your army!

;D no regional bias then?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 May 2016, 09:30:42 PM
Epic Squats

Painted and based up some support options for my Squats and some bikes

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Kec0-RWf6iM/VzJSjYri62I/AAAAAAAAGKg/9WheaRd59-Q6CtTNZUwLSt9U9XTNywLXACCo/s1280/IMG_0881.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 10 May 2016, 10:11:07 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 May 2016, 10:43:19 PM
Dayglow squats?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 May 2016, 05:51:05 AM
Looking damn fine, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 May 2016, 06:49:43 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 May 2016, 10:43:19 PM
Dayglow squats?

The green is quite vivid before it gets a brown wash!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 11 May 2016, 07:29:09 PM
may I suggest a command stand of spanish inquisition?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 May 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Not a bad idea at all. Can you recommend some figures?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 11 May 2016, 08:12:54 PM
Spanish inquisition would be cool  :D

Nice stuff Fred. Stop with the epic though! You're tempting me back to the dark side  :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: pierre the shy on 11 May 2016, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 11 May 2016, 07:29:09 PM
may I suggest a command stand of spanish inquisition?
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.....
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 May 2016, 08:25:49 PM
Onslaught do some very, very nice 6mm sci-fi.

There are some not Chaos Cultists. Some Oh No ... these, no definitely not tyranids. Some absolutely not Dark Eldar ... never heard of them. Some Oh, so these ... what did you call them? ... Tau .. have battlesuits and drone too do they? Some Sisters of Battle ... no these are The Sisterhood! Plus the Tzacol who would give the Necrons a run for their money.

Not that I'd want you to be tempted Matt  :d
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 May 2016, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 11 May 2016, 08:23:32 PM
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.....

Just less than an hour!

Onslaught make some very nice not Epic stuff, I've got a lot of their stalkers for my Tyranids. And several of my mates of lots of others of their ranges. Dark Realm Minaitures also make some very nice 6mm stuff too.

Better not say more, might be too tempting...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 11 May 2016, 09:58:56 PM
Oh oh, like the onslaught stuff

(you pair of temptress buggers)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 May 2016, 06:41:14 AM
Our job is done.

;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 May 2016, 07:09:08 PM
Based up the Squats, and a few random Space Marines (not pictured) this afternoon

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UO27uptFn7s/VzjIWHsKwXI/AAAAAAAAGLo/8eBZC3gJiQIHG2PkeMF7NohCPwasxE5-ACCo/s1280/IMG_1040.JPG)

Two support formations, bikers, rapier laser support, and in front Warrior and Berserker Brotherhoods
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 May 2016, 07:29:37 PM
Looking terrific, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 15 May 2016, 07:45:23 PM
They look great.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 May 2016, 07:47:36 PM
Forgot how cool they were!
Mike mortars? Mortars that go underground! Why?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 May 2016, 07:59:14 PM
Thanks guys. I've enjoyed painting these up. Lots more to go yet.

Quote from: mad lemmey on 15 May 2016, 07:47:36 PM
Mike mortars? Mortars that go underground! Why?

Mole Mortars.

But no idea why they fire them underground. The models would work just as well firing normally.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 May 2016, 08:35:13 PM
Dashed auto correct, I meant mole!!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 May 2016, 08:22:41 PM
Last Friday's game, this was the setup:


"Your sages have discover that the Mad Mullah Akbar the Grey had discovered the Great Goblet of Effervescent Goodness and hidden it in his desert tower.

You must escort a team of Mages to ransack carefully search the tower to recover the Goblet before anyone else does so."

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RVNema9srfk/VzjIWI3_CmI/AAAAAAAAGLo/y6jd4yNmNMAAUxZ8yqTYjrZQfw-NyptQQCCo/s912/IMG_0882.JPG)


The sides were Empire vs High Elves. And this was the situation after the first Empire turn.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e_YIPNKl0TA/VzjIWJuZ_qI/AAAAAAAAGLo/KprjMfQuoycaAZO1o_YoRD4x8Yot0VHqACCo/s1280/IMG_0884.JPG)
The Empire forces have crested the hill, while the Elves failed lots of command rolls...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sZIKKFex0gQ/VzjIWCqADYI/AAAAAAAAGLo/ljcNM56vGzwDTbWAmYUleX6tycdM7FdMQCCo/s1280/IMG_1034.JPG)
This was the end game - the Empire forces have totally cleared the Elven right flank. Their Wizard got to the tower, but not with enough time to escape again.

It was a good game - the new home brew rules are working well.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 17 May 2016, 09:25:06 PM
Bet that was great fun, Forbes.  :)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 May 2016, 09:39:44 PM
Nice one Forbes.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 May 2016, 09:40:26 PM
It was a good game - hence the lack of photos from in the middle!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 17 May 2016, 10:30:47 PM
Looks good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 18 May 2016, 12:39:40 AM
Hello

Another great looking game. You really know how to torture a game-rule-aholic  :D. It's always a good sign that there's a sparsity of pictures from the middle of a game, it means you were having too much fun to think about taking pictures. Too many pictures means that the game's dragging and you have to fill in the spare time  :D

I like how there's not too many intrusions on the table, apart from command dice, as well.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: pierre the shy on 18 May 2016, 05:21:20 AM
Looks very nice Fred.

Any game with elves in is good  8)

If they win - even better  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 May 2016, 06:56:24 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 18 May 2016, 12:39:40 AM

I like how there's not too many intrusions on the table, apart from command dice, as well.


We keep it simple, dice and tape measures. And the occasional army list. One advantage of having written the rules is that most of it is in my head so we rarely need to actually look something up.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 May 2016, 09:58:49 PM
Pike and Shotte


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9PekApiWIWQ/VzzkF7XmFQI/AAAAAAAAGM4/ZhvxTehbBNYY5Rv2aSeyiFeA-MyllXCXACCo/s1280/IMG_1041.JPG)

Got these chaps based up tonight.

The Shotte are EL3 Arquebusier in cabaret. The pike are a mix of EL and ECW codes (and probably some others). The wizard stand are various GW Warmaster Empire figures.

I remembered to mix some brown paint with the PVA on the back two stands which should help with painting the basing sand a lot.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 May 2016, 10:34:17 PM
Nice one!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 18 May 2016, 10:37:33 PM
Looking good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 19 May 2016, 12:10:16 AM
Hello

Quote from: fred. on 18 May 2016, 09:58:49 PM
Pike and Shotte


The Shotte are EL3 Arquebusier in cabaret.

It must have been hard to paint the Fishnet stockings....  ;D ;D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Interesting to see somebody else being pummelled by the spell check for a change.

Seriously, they look very good, are these (and the swordsmen) for your home grown rules as well? I'm assuming they are, going by the 40x40 bases.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: zackzeta on 19 May 2016, 01:31:03 AM
Quote from: fred. on 01 January 2016, 07:13:00 PM
I'll try to supply a steady stream...

I think I will try to take some more photos of finished units against proper backgrounds - rather than the quick snaps on the painting table.

But quick snaps are easy!

So here are some latests additions to the banana Space Marines, some scouts and some Land Speeders

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j7PHc7hMKeU/VobN7k9cbUI/AAAAAAAAFeo/dR9ZX36QkGY/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0373.JPG)

Who will get their first outing on the table tonight.

wow those are some amazing minis what line is that from?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 May 2016, 06:40:45 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: zackzeta on 19 May 2016, 01:31:03 AM
wow those are some amazing minis what line is that from?

They are old GW Epic Space Marines, 6mm sized. Long out of production but still quite readily available on eBay.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 May 2016, 06:43:09 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 19 May 2016, 12:10:16 AM
It must have been hard to paint the Fishnet stockings....  ;D ;D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Interesting to see somebody else being pummelled by the spell check for a change.

Seriously, they look very good, are these (and the swordsmen) for your home grown rules as well? I'm assuming they are, going by the 40x40 bases.

Bloody auto correct - even copied it from the webstore to get the right spelling.

These are probably more likely for Irregular Wars (apart from the wizard). But they may well get roped into a Fantasty army at some point.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 May 2016, 09:42:38 PM
Not much painting tonight.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p-uUZ9m1qJk/Vz4xe5ZKlFI/AAAAAAAAGNk/RU1IokWhUrYmt_7yJApeWi-a1NQSVsbZwCCo/s1280/IMG_1042.JPG)

Gave the Renaissance troops a brown wash - including the more sandy bases.

Also tried to paint the canopy lines of the Squat helicopters - with not the best results - so might need to touch them up. Not totally sure what to do with the rotor blades. Had initially thought to leave them black - but not sure if that looks a bit dull.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 19 May 2016, 09:49:42 PM
Looking good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 19 May 2016, 10:28:14 PM
Hello

Quote from: fred. on 19 May 2016, 09:42:38 PM
Also tried to paint the canopy lines of the Squat helicopters - with not the best results - so might need to touch them up. Not totally sure what to do with the rotor blades. Had initially thought to leave them black - but not sure if that looks a bit dull.

Can't help you with the canopy lines. A job I hate and put off, for as long as possible. You could try to liven up the rotor blades with  some dayglo danger markers similar to the tail rotor below. It could be a warning for squats not to become minced  :)

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_2304/23047989.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 May 2016, 05:25:17 AM
Nice work, again, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 05:52:03 AM
Thanks chaps.

GoM good idea about the markings - there are some bulges on the rotors (probably not really visible in the photos)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 07:03:29 AM
Been putting together a base marker for the Tyranids - its a 40k plastic part, and I have done a green goo base to go inside, using water effects to give both a sheen and a ripple effect

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U0HjpPfybzQ/Vz62YdJBXJI/AAAAAAAAGOM/O8I17MiMHMEfoeSLUpDKEpZyhWDT8cGlwCCo/s1280/IMG_1043.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 May 2016, 07:19:21 AM
Looks suitably creepy and organic. Look forward to the finished article.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 07:22:35 AM
Thanks. Not totally decided on the scheme, I'm using red for organic bits and bone for armour on my Nids, but this piece looks to be s bit different in structure to the beasties.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 May 2016, 07:33:59 AM
Bone for the "cauldron," red for the "stinger" and green for the tentacles maybe? The cauldron appears to be in three layers - stripes of red or green to break up the expanse of bone.

Just random thoughts.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 07:37:57 AM
I like the idea of breaking up the cauldron walls - might try a shading effect on them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 May 2016, 08:15:51 AM
Think that that's going to look rather spiffy.  :)

Cheers - Phil (Is it me, or are folk being rather coy about posting, because we're so close to the 200K mark ?  ;))
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 May 2016, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: Techno on 20 May 2016, 08:15:51 AM
Cheers - Phil (Is it me, or are folk being rather coy about posting, because we're so close to the 200K mark ?  ;))

Shedman is frantically deleting posts while you're not looking Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 08:34:01 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 May 2016, 08:20:35 AM
Shedman is frantically deleting posts while you're not looking Phil :)

;D

Phil's probably got a bit of green stuff under the delete button
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 20 May 2016, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: fred. on 19 May 2016, 09:42:38 PM
Not much painting tonight.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p-uUZ9m1qJk/Vz4xe5ZKlFI/AAAAAAAAGNk/RU1IokWhUrYmt_7yJApeWi-a1NQSVsbZwCCo/s1280/IMG_1042.JPG)

Gave the Renaissance troops a brown wash - including the more sandy bases.

Also tried to paint the canopy lines of the Squat helicopters - with not the best results - so might need to touch them up. Not totally sure what to do with the rotor blades. Had initially thought to leave them black - but not sure if that looks a bit dull.

How about painting some varying width, thin light grey lines across the black rotors to give the impression of movement? if you use thinned down paint it should dry slightly fuzzy along the edges.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 May 2016, 11:16:06 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 20 May 2016, 08:47:10 AM
How about painting some varying width, thin light grey lines across the black rotors to give the impression of movement? if you use thinned down paint it should dry slightly fuzzy along the edges.

Thats a good idea too, ta.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 20 May 2016, 10:16:34 PM
Hello

Now that you're in a good mood from winning the 200,000 lottery, is there any chance of you being able to share your home brew rules.....

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h177/DeppCollector/Emoticons/Pleading%20-%20Begging/723b8ba7.gif)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h177/DeppCollector/Emoticons/Pleading%20-%20Begging/723b8ba7.gif)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h177/DeppCollector/Emoticons/Pleading%20-%20Begging/723b8ba7.gif)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h177/DeppCollector/Emoticons/Pleading%20-%20Begging/723b8ba7.gif)

Hello, my name is GrumpyOldMan and I'm a rule-aholic.....

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 06:44:16 AM
Yep, played again last night, and no significant changes. Drop me a PM with your email.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Fenton on 21 May 2016, 07:11:08 AM
I would be interested as well
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Drop me a PM to.

Araby vs Dark Elves

Played our home brew rules again last night, Araby army vs Dark Elves (who look a lot like High Elves in the photo, due to the Dark Elf player having to paint the house, rather than his army  :-\ ).

A couple of photos from mid-game
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B8ivWYcwyxk/V0AlvgJHtvI/AAAAAAAAGO8/tV515YHkRXo_Z2F7bmU2eK_GbgfLsxlqwCCo/s1280/IMG_1046.JPG)
The left flank, the Hydra has just charged the Araby Spearmen, which it killed one and wounded others, but ended up locked in combat, allowing the marauding horse Archers to get flank and rear charges, which cause automatic wounds - leading to a dead Hydra.
Behind are some Witch Elves, which spent much of the game wandering around, taking missile fire - they finally got a charge in on the last turn, against Spearmen on the hill (one of the objectives, out of shot to the left), and died horribly, largely due to some very good dice rolls from me.  ;)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ufJJ6fg9WI/V0AlvpAIfzI/AAAAAAAAGO8/5AkHxSUafQsLa5C42ple9ZHgEa_8DuEuQCCo/s1280/IMG_1047.JPG)
The right flank. On the far side I have cleared off the Dark Riders who where rather exposed and shot to pieces by twice their number of Araby foot and horse archers. In the middle I had lost my Camel Riders and some knights, but they had caused casualties in return, and had split up the DE forces. Now my troops were massing on the right flank ready to swing back in. The infantry were about to attack the village (the other objective) and the knights were about to swing round and charge the harpies (almostly totally ineffectually, needing 5+ to hit on a d10, I scored 1 hit out of 10 attacks  :'( ). In the centre the elephants did enough against the DE spears, that the flying carpets and horse archers could finish them off (there are also 3 units of archers just out of shot to the right too).

A good game - even the DE player enjoyed it, despite it swinging heavily against him at the end.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 21 May 2016, 09:54:51 AM
Looks cracking.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Fenton on 21 May 2016, 10:28:45 AM
Looks great as always
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 11:12:50 AM
Thanks chaps, you're very generous as this was a pretty basic setup!

Steve - email sent.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 21 May 2016, 12:12:38 PM
Nice looking game.

Where did you get the palm trees from?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 21 May 2016, 12:12:38 PM
Where did you get the palm trees from?

From that nice Mr Leon.

But looking for a link now, I can't see them on either Pendraken or Minibits webstores.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 21 May 2016, 01:21:58 PM
You're right! I got mine from Pendraken too, but can't find the code.

What's the story, Dark Glory?

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 01:29:53 PM
Oh no, have we uncovered a global conspiracy to restrict the supply of plastic palm trees?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 21 May 2016, 01:50:07 PM
Perhaps it's the Dark Lord's way of showing us that only conflicts in temperate zones are blessed by him.



Nope. All the trees are gone.   >:(


Miniature deforestation!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Fenton on 21 May 2016, 02:04:32 PM
The Middlesbrough' palm tree plantations are gone?

How come there wasn't a post on Facebook  warning all of us to this travesty

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: fsn on 21 May 2016, 01:50:07 PM
Miniature deforestation!

Perhaps its overspill from the Vietnam range - miniature agent orange?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2016, 10:28:38 PM
Minotaur Command and Casters

Had these guys a while, and hadn't been sure how to base them - but went for 40mm squares for the casters, and 2ps for the commanders. Then they can be used with our home brew rules, and with Warband, using sabot bases.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M6ZszUrtx48/V0De5kBXylI/AAAAAAAAGPo/6eM7h1vCcLMt7Zd8otyA2v30MJRDUrv8wCCo/s1280/IMG_1048.JPG)

Still fairly WIP but decided to get sand on them tonight so it can dry overnight.

These are a mix of the new Warband sculpts and a few older figures - the new ones are very nice. The drummer is a particular favourite.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 22 May 2016, 05:17:47 AM
Looking very nice, Forbes !

What colour are you going for, for the 'Runestone' ?

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 May 2016, 08:25:56 AM
Ta Phil, and my compliments to the sculptor too.  I really like what you have done with the commanders and casters for the Warband packs.

I'm thinking of grey for the Bulls head tune stone, not least to contrast with all the brown. Perhaps with gilded horns.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 May 2016, 08:26:51 AM
I'm going Minoan black for mine...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 May 2016, 11:41:35 AM
Nice idea. I might go with a dark grey for the Bulls head, and a lighter grey for the stones around it.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 22 May 2016, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: fred. on 21 May 2016, 12:33:53 PM
But looking for a link now, I can't see them on either Pendraken or Minibits webstores.

Quote from: fsn on 21 May 2016, 01:21:58 PM
You're right! I got mine from Pendraken too, but can't find the code.

We've stopped stocking those unfortunately, the shipping costs and import duty made it less viable to keep selling them.  We've got a few bags left which we're selling off cheap, so I'll get a list sorted out and put it up here.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 22 May 2016, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: fred. on 22 May 2016, 08:25:56 AM
Ta Phil, and my compliments to the sculptor too.  I really like what you have done with the commanders and casters for the Warband packs.
I'm thinking of grey for the Bulls head tune stone, not least to contrast with all the brown. Perhaps with gilded horns.

Very kind, Forbes. :-[

I have to say that I really did enjoy doing this particular army.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 May 2016, 08:46:28 PM
Minotaur Command and Casters

Got another layer on the flesh, a bit of gold on the shiny trinkets, and flocked the bases.  Thats these guys done. It feels a bit rough and ready, but it seems to work.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tY_0sEw0Zfk/V0IYxgKUhLI/AAAAAAAAGQQ/BB2yd-DO2l8rFRg1x31TGE3zwlpZzO2hgCCo/s1280/IMG_1051.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 May 2016, 09:46:25 PM
Gribblies

Having made good progress with the Minotaurs I had a bit of a rummage for other part painted stuff that could progress quickly. I found 8 painting sticks of Onslaught not Tryandids, dry brushed in dark red.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0Nq-hYaxzPQ/V0IntLJk3SI/AAAAAAAAGQw/UgySEzIT850NkywWwyVLwa0quD_M220JACCo/s1280/IMG_1054.JPG)

They have had a quick dry brush of red, the bases painted brown, and on the combat ones, the heads painted pale sand and the claws black.
Thats the combat ones done, bar a strong brown wash,  in about 45 mins.
The shooty ones need their carapaces painting pale brown, and their guns bright green.

Then basing - which will probably take longer than the painting...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 May 2016, 10:02:33 PM
Very nice Fred!  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 23 May 2016, 05:20:44 AM
Really nice work, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 23 May 2016, 05:52:51 AM
Really like the Minotaur Command, you have done a great job on them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 May 2016, 11:37:56 AM
Thanks guys. Looking at the Minotaurs again I'm happier with them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 May 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Tyranid Gribblies

Did the carapaces of the shooty ones, and their guns tonight. And gave both sets a brown wash.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uXqQCCQYX4I/V0N3A1Go_VI/AAAAAAAAGRY/Oej88080XVcq0YlZXrFWhPWFSzxpBDKNACCo/s1280/IMG_1055.JPG)

Also took the photo from a bit further away so not so much glare in it.

Hopefully get them on bases in the next couple of nights - which is a fiddly job, as the cast on bases are flat circles, which stand out really badly if you don't get a fair bit of sand on them - but are still small so getting glue on the base and not on the figure is fiddly.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 24 May 2016, 04:47:39 AM
Look forward to seeing them completed, Forbes !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 May 2016, 10:16:38 PM
Got the little gribblies based up tonight

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WtTKNoVPJ6g/V0YcDwub_KI/AAAAAAAAGSM/hrXvh0a9Thg3WET2-HrIjrWtcXC4ZiGRgCCo/s1280/IMG_1057.JPG)

13 bases more of each of the melee and shooty ones.

I've now got 15 painting sticks cleared, which is serious progress.


Also found the Minotaur standard bearer, that I had lost put safely somewhere, and had rather forgotten about until seeing his photo on the webstore the other day. He needs a bit of finishing off, mainly the banner - thinking about lion skin colouration for it?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 25 May 2016, 10:55:43 PM
Looking good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 May 2016, 06:27:25 AM
Nice work Forbes! :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2016, 09:58:01 PM
Thanks chaps.

As I got out some of the TB Line cavalry to photo for Jorge - it seemed a good idea to stick them together!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZ_MqodNnyU/V0dwAlg4gpI/AAAAAAAAGTk/LS8bsSten4YAimm1eEnOwkxmZDt35j9wgCCo/s1280/IMG_1061.JPG)

This is a good first step towards achieving this goal, from the start of this thread, and quite possibly a couple of preceding years too.

QuoteArab Heavy Cavalry - getting these guys painted would improve this army a lot for not a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 27 May 2016, 06:57:55 AM
The gribbles look really good Forbes.

Looking forward seeing to what you achieve with those TB figs.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 27 May 2016, 11:56:14 PM
Thanks, that is cool.

will be great to see what you will do with those knights!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 May 2016, 09:10:20 PM
Araby Army

As my Araby army has been used in the last few battles, and I have started work on some more TB units for them, I thought it would be good to get all the troops together, so see what I have, and what I have still to add.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GGTGKOVeV-4/V0oFOdb3YfI/AAAAAAAAGUQ/8gMlwwx7_0Ek9rbFgmUnyJH5hZirxXlSACCo/s1280/IMG_1085.JPG)

The army is a mix of manufacturers, GW, TB Line, Magister Militum and Pendraken.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cBIZ0QfJ2mg/V0oFXPsbiTI/AAAAAAAAGUY/M9r_6C5UHnImo_eFahefIoqCSyN8ZP1lgCCo/s1280/IMG_1088.JPG)
The Pendraken Turks, with black powder weapons are closest to the camera.

In the to paint pile, are a few more foot archers, lots of horse archers, camels and knights.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 28 May 2016, 11:49:53 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

A very impressive army :)

One small suggestion, an hour spent dark edging all the bases that aren't would really pull the basing together
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Fenton on 29 May 2016, 07:10:14 AM
Very impressive Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 29 May 2016, 07:10:44 AM
Fred, you have a really lovely army.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 29 May 2016, 07:18:57 AM
Splendid , Forbes !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 May 2016, 08:07:35 AM
Thanks chaps.

Paul, you are right about the basing been rather inconsistent but I think I will lighten the dark edges (which will be laser cut edges) rather than darken the others.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: kev1964 on 29 May 2016, 08:19:08 AM
That's a proper looking army Fred, great work.



kev
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 29 May 2016, 11:41:57 AM
That is a very respectable looking army you have there. Any close-ups?

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 May 2016, 12:02:04 PM
Impressive Forbes! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 29 May 2016, 03:22:08 PM
Awesome Arab Army.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 May 2016, 04:29:06 PM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: Subedai on 29 May 2016, 11:41:57 AM
That is a very respectable looking army you have there. Any close-ups?


No, for some reason I didn't take any. Too busy trying to get everything in one shot. I'll see if I can crop some of the photos to get more detail.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 May 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Some crops of the photos to show some more details - not the best pictures I'm afraid.

Spearmen
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aBNM6FIVntk/V0tLeto2ETI/AAAAAAAAGV0/acgK8SKH4gIkPX0JgIzjRx1mPbOZRj2_wCCo/s1280/IMG_1081.JPG)
GW on the left, MM on the right

Horse Archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zUX8g-zUlfQ/V0tLapozfdI/AAAAAAAAGV0/j_JH6tFaIXkgzjhm1KxcYk7V6GZ96QTpgCCo/s1280/IMG_1086.JPG)
TB Line - not really finished

Cavalry & Elephants
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iEkVrxQnrZY/V0tLXoOzDtI/AAAAAAAAGV0/bdnBuMhTV40X9YyEI7XNWNlWorbPeQsPQCCo/s1280/IMG_1087.JPG)
Mostly TB Line, the nearer elephants are MM, wizards are GW

Guns
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XgOvbeU_rw8/V0tLm-GGUhI/AAAAAAAAGWE/A-dCgrZOH50wKqi3XTyevr1BaXEX7Qp3ACCo/s1024/IMG_1088.JPG)
Pendraken (yeah!!) Janisarry canons, handgunners, mortars, and seige guns
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 29 May 2016, 08:28:58 PM
Quote from: fred. on 29 May 2016, 08:07:35 AM
Thanks chaps.

Paul, you are right about the basing been rather inconsistent but I think I will lighten the dark edges (which will be laser cut edges) rather than darken the others.

I was tossing up which to suggest, I went with the majority ;) Light edges will look good :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 30 May 2016, 12:07:54 AM
Hello

Very nice looking Araby army. Like the idea of using Janissaries for the firearm troops. I was thinking of using the Afghan types but will have a look at the Turks now.

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/NW5.JPG)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/NW4.JPG)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2016, 05:47:51 AM
Quote from: fred. on 29 May 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Some crops of the photos to show some more details - not the best pictures I'm afraid.

Still look DAMN spiffy, Forbes.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2016, 07:32:30 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: paulr on 29 May 2016, 08:28:58 PM
I was tossing up which to suggest, I went with the majority ;) Light edges will look good :)

;)

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 30 May 2016, 12:07:54 AM
. I was thinking of using the Afghan types but will have a look at the Turks now.

The Afghans look good - I'm tempted to add some now.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 May 2016, 07:35:40 AM
What on earth is that army?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 30 May 2016, 08:06:27 AM
Warmaster Fantasy - Araby

"Araby is one of those lands in the world of Warhammer that always seemed to be talked about but never received the full army treatment for the 28mm miniatures game. However, Warmaster took care of that for 10mm, making Araby an official expansion army."
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 May 2016, 08:15:54 AM
Ah. Thief of Baghdad vs Aladdin part III, is it? Valentino galloping off into the souk with Fairbanks over his pommel?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 30 May 2016, 08:54:15 AM
 Now that is one mean and tasty looking bunch of little chaps. The close up's/crops work a treat.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2016, 09:30:54 AM
Thanks Mick.

FK - that's one description - as an army it's certainly more Hollywood than History
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 30 May 2016, 10:55:45 AM
Quote from: fred. on 30 May 2016, 09:30:54 AM
Thanks Mick.

FK - that's one description - as an army it's certainly more Hollywood than History

Given it's meant to be fighting the likes of Orcs, Chaos Warriors and Undead I'd be concerned if it was an accurate representation of the armies of the Mamluk Sultanate or something similar :)

Very nicely painted  army though.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2016, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 30 May 2016, 10:55:45 AM
Given it's meant to be fighting the likes of Orcs, Chaos Warriors and Undead I'd be concerned if it was an accurate representation of the armies of the Mamluk Sultanate or something similar :)

Indeed - the flying carpets should be the give a way that it's a fantasy army. Most of GW's human armies are based on a historical theme / period, though  usually this is only a base and lots of twists are added to this, as well as the overt fantasy elements. But for a gamer this is a good thing as you can use lots of historical troops to bulk out your army.


Quote from: Ithoriel on 30 May 2016, 10:55:45 AM
Very nicely painted  army though.
Ta.

Started work on some more knights last night. Going for black and orange like the spearmen - they look a bit dark at the minute.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 30 May 2016, 04:17:44 PM
For fantasy, I INMHO afghan figures are nicer than ottoman rank
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2016, 07:31:36 PM
For a bit of a change of pace this afternoon, I put together a 28mm Gothic building.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nb3mciwg7yw/V0x5AltireI/AAAAAAAAGWs/U9JS8AhucHwHojOs7ZWhE4xjth_l386CACCo/s1152/IMG_1091.JPG)

Fairly simple dry brushing of grey over the base dark grey. Block painted the door dark brown - some more detailing to do still.

This is about half the pieces in the kit, I have already made a much bigger building from a kit I got a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2016, 08:41:26 PM
I DO like that, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2016, 09:27:07 PM
Thanks Phil. Its come out pretty well, and only needed a middling amount of effort. Not sure if I'm going to base it or not.


Tonight, a bit more work on the Araby Knights.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SX76obEWXdQ/V0yv9DfhY7I/AAAAAAAAGYI/gOo1NTC848MLMd2MFq-L0lRuRqXLaloYACCo/s1280/IMG_1094.JPG)

Quite a lot of grey highlighting added to the black, and started picking out lots of the bits of equipment, of which there is a lot of very small things, not quite sure what they all are, let alone the right colour, so gone from brown at the minute, with the intention of adding some gold bits of metal work.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 May 2016, 09:48:34 PM
Nice work fella!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 31 May 2016, 06:11:43 AM
Those are going to look really splendid.

Look forward to see those finished, Forbes.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 01 June 2016, 01:20:33 PM
Looking good, men. The yellow horse looks pretty good for arab army
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2016, 06:01:45 PM
Thanks all.

The yellow ones are to round out a WM unit to make 2 x 40x40mm bases which we are using for our home brew rules.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2016, 09:43:20 PM
More work on the Araby Knights.

Got some details added to the black and orange ones, and got them based up. A bit of gold has lifted them quite a lot.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vN71I9F4-SA/V09WQ-GR0TI/AAAAAAAAGYw/3rWLSYBJkRQh6wROIMihJ-46vyN5zw0vACCo/s1152/IMG_1102.JPG)

Also got some brighter yellow on the other ones, and painted a few of the horses of the lighter armoured ones, I think I will only base these 6 to a base.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 01 June 2016, 09:58:05 PM
That's a cracking Araby army, Forbes - like that lots  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 01 June 2016, 10:10:14 PM
Very smart indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 June 2016, 10:23:12 PM
Nice Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 02 June 2016, 05:10:39 AM
Terrific, Forbes !   8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 June 2016, 06:44:02 AM
Thanks chaps. I'm pleased with how these have come out, and how quickly they have painted up. Especially, considering how much procrastination has gone into not painting these!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 02 June 2016, 09:08:09 AM
Very nice. It's amazing how much time you spend thinking about how difficult something will be to paint so you put it off and put it off. Then, when you bite the bullet and paint it, you sail through it.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 02 June 2016, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 02 June 2016, 09:08:09 AM
Very nice. It's amazing how much time you spend thinking about how difficult something will be to paint so you put it off and put it off. Then, when you bite the bullet and paint it, you sail through it.

MickS

That is a pearl of knowlage
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 June 2016, 07:48:07 PM
Played last night, again Dark Elves vs Araby, using our home brew rules. This time with a proper Dark Elf army!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aIBiUx1GM5I/V1Mk9azMwZI/AAAAAAAAGZk/hMsBoq6M5uM7PkH7DtfBXsttFX_f9VQtQCCo/s1280/IMG_1103.JPG)

This was an interesting scenario - the objective was the farm at the far left corner of the table, the table had a lot of broken ground with swamps and woods. The Dark Elves started at the far right corner. The Araby forces in the middle of the table where the camera is.
This is around mid game. There has been a big punch at the bottom right - the DE are winning - but I managed to hold up a lot of their troops for some time, so they ended up out of the fight for the farm. 

In the middle there has been a big shooting battle - with Araby just edging it, but both sides suffering lots of casualties. My cavalry are getting round on the left to eventually pressure the few Dark Elf crossbows who had made it to the village.

A good scenario which made a big difference from the normal line up and charge battle.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 04 June 2016, 07:54:33 PM
Like it - looking good. Loads of terrain is always sensible - and non-linear is good too :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 05 June 2016, 05:12:30 AM
That looks great, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 June 2016, 09:37:36 PM
Eastern Cavalry

More work on these chaps over the weekend, got all the horses painted, and inspired by Mick's Poles I have gone with Red and Blue colour scheme. I added white to the Royal Blue to lighten it, but it has come out fairly dark - perhaps in part to going over black.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dDxt_94ws-M/V1Sbwi80ntI/AAAAAAAAGaU/_hn20GoAwSwRO5SOvkNxUckohgGngMN4gCCo/s1280/IMG_1105.JPG)

Also remembered to hit the magic wand tool before uploading the photo - which has lifted all the colours a bit more, compared to the un-edited one

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JOx8fL99-eg/V1Sa3uzq9XI/AAAAAAAAGaE/ivwVbDymdYMz7dagTIrh-stXfR9hPu6KACCo/s1280/IMG_1104.JPG)


Lots of tack, and equipment on the riders still to do.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 06 June 2016, 05:03:15 AM
Coo !

Those definitely look rather spiffy, Forbes.  :-bd

Don't look too dark from the piccy.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 June 2016, 06:20:24 AM
Nice one Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 07 June 2016, 05:11:52 PM
Looking good with those bright colours!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2016, 05:36:23 PM
If I may be so bold, on the cavalry shields, which is really what people see first, I would add some high lights of scarlet or even a dark orange on the red and a lighter shade of blue on the designs. That would make them 'pop' no end. The other trick I have used is to paint the shield design stripes in black and then put the coloured stripe inside of that, it's amazing how much definition you get between the blue and the red with either method.

Hope this helps.

You can definitely see the difference in the picture brightness. Works wonders.


MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 June 2016, 06:06:30 PM
Some good ideas their Mick. I did add some light blue highlights last night, and added more of the red to lift it from the black base coat. But I will look to add some scarlet tonight I think.

Now that I have started thinking about making the colours bright, it's much easier to look at the colours and think, yes they could be brighter, rather than assuming they have come out as bright as you expected. The black base coat certainly drops the colour tome quite a lot. The little plumes on the yellow knights are the same red, but I had painted the plumes white first, and these have come out very bright.

The black base, to black line the stripes is a top tip - I will try that on some others, as these are a bit too far along for me to want to start the shields again.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2016, 06:27:52 PM
That's the thing, you have treat the first colour you put on as the normal shadow colour and then highlight up from there, it takes longer to write than it does to do, honestly. As said before I only use one a one colour highlight system as I can't really be ar*ed to do more than one. Looking forward to seeing the results.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 June 2016, 09:54:56 PM
More detailing on the horses - mainly the tack, of which there is a lot!

Realised the riders have mailed legs so did them silver, which saved having to choose lots of browns.  Also added some scarlet highlights to the shields.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FK1PatoF_gU/V1dB7kydwiI/AAAAAAAAGbM/UD17-O2GbrItPhmDLh_ImCdFqedb-sEJgCCo/s1280/IMG_1108.JPG)

Still a fair bit to do on the riders, skin, equipment, and white socks & blazes on the horses - nearly there...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-39u1Dmax8mI/V1dBlzoVkzI/AAAAAAAAGbA/BC1fJkCS0u8D36McEyXMYRFALK7WXjMDgCCo/s1280/IMG_1107.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 June 2016, 05:12:31 AM
NICE !

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 June 2016, 06:25:34 AM
Looking good Fred! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 08 June 2016, 09:13:25 AM
They look really good. The yellow and green combo is quite striking and the scarlet highlight also makes the blue stand out a little more. 

MickS.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: skywalker on 08 June 2016, 11:31:38 AM
Looking good, can't wait to see them based I am sure they will look AWESOME  :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2016, 06:55:43 PM
Thanks chaps. Been doing Dad taxi stuff so far this evening - might get a bit of painting in later.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2016, 09:42:45 PM
Managed to get a few more details done, and get these chaps stuck on bases - still waiting for the glue to dry, so lots of white in the background, which doesn't help with iPhone photos

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gvSRagUsiu4/V1iQ_Q2q6DI/AAAAAAAAGb8/MXm4XcvH6ow-e4Q0No3un2-wGwE3785OACCo/s1280/IMG_1112.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 08 June 2016, 09:45:38 PM
Don't they look all mutts nads-iified. Nice and bright and everything.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 June 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Superb
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 09 June 2016, 05:26:45 AM
Lovely work, Forbes.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 09 June 2016, 06:01:52 AM
Great stuff :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 June 2016, 06:45:32 AM
Thank you!

They do seem to have come together nicely. I'll remember to think about bright colours more on future units.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: skywalker on 09 June 2016, 11:24:41 AM
They look fantastic  :-bd :-bd =D> =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Obsidian23 on 09 June 2016, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: fred. on 19 May 2016, 09:42:38 PM
Not much painting tonight.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p-uUZ9m1qJk/Vz4xe5ZKlFI/AAAAAAAAGNk/RU1IokWhUrYmt_7yJApeWi-a1NQSVsbZwCCo/s1280/IMG_1042.JPG)

Gave the Renaissance troops a brown wash - including the more sandy bases.

Also tried to paint the canopy lines of the Squat helicopters - with not the best results - so might need to touch them up. Not totally sure what to do with the rotor blades. Had initially thought to leave them black - but not sure if that looks a bit dull.

Hi,

Sorry I know I am very late in making comment to this but thought I could help with this post for your Squat copters.  For small scale aircraft canopies like yours I do the following:

1.  paint the glass as needed.
2.  using white glue/paper glu add a bit of water say a 90/10% white glue/water mix and then paint this over the glass.  let it dry.
3.  paint the frame, canopy lines.
4.  using a sharp object, needle nose tweezers, pin, needle, pointed blade lift the edge of the dried white glue and then with tweezers peel off in one go.
5.  white glue won't (shouldn't) lift your previously painted glass.

I used this technique on my 1/144th scale aircraft, helicopters.

Cheers,

Scott
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 09 June 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Out of interest Fred, for which rules system have you based up the renaissance figures, and what size are the bases?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 June 2016, 06:49:34 PM
Thanks Scott that's a top tip - I will try it on the other 8.

Quote from: Leman on 09 June 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Out of interest Fred, for which rules system have you based up the renaissance figures, and what size are the bases?

They are based for Irregular Wars which is probably best described as small battle rules, with each based representing a company of men, and around a dozen bases to a force. It has a large number of random factors, especially in the game setup, and gives a good game.

May stuff is based on 40x40mm squares, but the rules are base width style, so any square base will work. We used 2" as a base width to keep the measuring and multiplying simple.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 10 June 2016, 07:07:13 AM
Thanks, sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 June 2016, 11:22:59 AM
They are good rules - we were hoping they would work for big battles - but didn't scale up that much. But for what they are aimed at they are great.

If you are interested we could try to meet up for a game, as we are virtually next door to each other!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 10 June 2016, 03:53:45 PM
Indeed, Formby and Southport only about 5 miles apart. I will be on the Liverpool Wargames Club stand at Phalanx next week.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 June 2016, 06:41:42 PM
Ok, I'm heading to Phalanx too, so will pop over to say hi.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 10 June 2016, 06:50:20 PM
See you there.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2016, 06:50:13 AM
Played Epic on Friday - photos to follow.

Yesterday afternoon, got a good block of time to work on my squats.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4wVRXb5GPa4/V15WixS2paI/AAAAAAAAGcw/bkCqYYRiOrMo2bFo19RllElNV-iZqLqAACCo/s1152/IMG_1133.JPG)

Overlord Airships, Goliath Mega Cannon, Gyrocopters, more Rhinos, thudd guns and mole mortars. Couple of dry brushed coats of grey, and blue bits added. Also made various flight stands. While I was painting them, it felt like loads of stuff, photographed together it feels a bit less...

But this gives me a good 2000pts of stuff that can be fielded, even if its not quite finished.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 June 2016, 07:53:05 AM
Looking good Fred
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 13 June 2016, 09:08:54 AM
Agreed, Will.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 13 June 2016, 09:41:08 AM
Good stuff Fred.

I was in my local GW the other week and it looks like an Epic re-release is on the cards however going to be in 10mm this time. Certainly grabbed my interest.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 13 June 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Sounds interesting. It was one of the few things in GW that caught my attention in the 90s, but at the time decided to go with WM.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2016, 11:48:55 AM
I only got into Epic about 18 months ago. It's a great game - and there is lots of old GW stuff still available, and lots of new stuff to.

I had heard the new release was going to be 8mm. As it's supposed to be a Titan based game then scale might not matter too much. The airships and the big guns above are 1/1200 or perhaps even smaller.

A new 6mm manufacturer is producing Titanesque tanks that are the size of a 15mm tank.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 June 2016, 12:12:12 PM
Have to say I had wondered if the new, rumoured to be 8mm, size was down to the number of manufacturers doing 6mm figures every bit as good as the GW ones.

I have more 6mm Epic than any sane person should own so probably not in the market for the new figures, however wonderful.

Just bought the new GW Silver Tower set minus the figures for thirteen quid rather than the £75 - £100 I've seen for the full thing, may try to do the same with the new Epic rules if they look to be any good.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 13 June 2016, 01:50:40 PM
QuoteJust bought the new GW Silver Tower set minus the figures for thirteen quid rather than the £75 - £100 I've seen for the full thing

please let us know what you think on this, was tempted myself

Matt
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2016, 05:39:46 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 June 2016, 12:12:12 PM
Have to say I had wondered if the new, rumoured to be 8mm, size was down to the number of manufacturers doing 6mm figures every bit as good as the GW ones.

It would be GW's normal practise to change stuff to make their stuff incompatible with the general market (or even their own stuff) - and then assume their's is normal.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Played Epic on Friday night, Tau vs Imperial Guard.

The Tau had taken over a factory area on a planet, and the Imperial guard were attacking to re-take it

Overview from a recon satellite, pre battle.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bBEGry8th2w/V17yIeSbXRI/AAAAAAAAGdw/0eKQc9F9JigFxXBFhRAgFaKscU4IawRCQCCo/s912/IMG_1122.JPG)

Towards the end of the first turn, with the Tau players active, they hold the factory area, but have taken casualties on the far side
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-46eqWgyxReU/V17yIX95Y7I/AAAAAAAAGdw/z-q1T0jNX8UEp6LDGw_X8u-7K7mv0ytJQCCo/s1280/IMG_1124.JPG)

The IG forces massing to attempt to take the town, lots of artillery and tanks
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nc1PWGZfCqc/V17yIcj8KqI/AAAAAAAAGd4/6wZMXPBcQ40JWUM5KN2oP19aqiHlx7lUQCCo/s1280/IMG_1125.JPG)

Towards the end of the game - the IG have swarmed into the factory area
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--uUhJRRuP2Y/V17yIRAs4oI/AAAAAAAAGd4/t1QqVZNnM-YAT-N8eNKApSQJiexXszZJgCCo/s1280/IMG_1128.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 13 June 2016, 06:41:21 PM
That wasn't taken from a recon satellite !

You were standing on a chair.  ;)

Looks great, Forbes.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: Techno on 13 June 2016, 06:41:21 PM
That wasn't taken from a recon satellite !

You were standing on a chair.  ;)


Damn, can't hide anything from you Phil  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 16 June 2016, 01:03:37 PM
It will not be strange for me if in the future will see  warmaster in 6mm
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 June 2016, 02:11:01 PM
Quote from: fred. on 13 June 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Damn, can't hide anything from you Phil  ;)

Except Win10. Good stuff.

IanS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 June 2016, 05:37:27 PM
Phalanx - and Competition Wins figures

Visited Phalanx show yesterday, to pick up a big bag of stuff from Pendraken, thanks to two competition wins, and to see what else took my fancy

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IwmLSWt25kw/V2bWqIbDy4I/AAAAAAAAGf4/8U4UdazdjTUAM1zmemWba0gm3Cjv9AdcACCo/s1280/IMG_1138.JPG)
Big bag of Pendraken loveliness - thanks to Leon and Dave for running the guess the posts comp, its my favourite  ;) Leon says that I will have to make a guess for 300,000 posts before anyone else!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rpiWpGp27os/V2bWqOgb1tI/AAAAAAAAGf4/dfPwOEOv-FUiYUXFPPR_1bCQ5p7u4K3OACCo/s1280/IMG_1139.JPG)
The contents of the bag, and the few other bits I bought - I only spent about £30 on other stuff, at least half of which I spent at Pendraken to get the flags, trees, and some dice.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 June 2016, 05:53:13 PM
Good haul old bean!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 19 June 2016, 05:57:38 PM
I'll say.

(I thought you'd have painted them all by now, Forbes.  ;))

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 June 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Quote from: Techno on 19 June 2016, 05:57:38 PM
(I thought you'd have painted them all by now, Forbes.  ;))

I have made some in-roads on that front.

Some more detailed photos of stuff

The new wooden bridge - this is very nice. Can be easily made in to a smaller bridge just using one of the pieces of decking. Or could be used as a pier.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-51vM90TrJts/V2bWqEdLEUI/AAAAAAAAGf4/wbSM6VfZEjoF-XIr1oRKAt1NZcVJMr2VACCo/s1280/IMG_1140.JPG)

Lizardmen Mages I really like these too - great sculpts Phil. The totem would make a great Oriental / Chinese Foo Dog if fitted to an appropriate body.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hYLUyGjdtI/V2bWqJwmh2I/AAAAAAAAGf4/kci9_t-nIJccpmoxhQECIxF8dUDMbPIzwCCo/s1280/IMG_1142.JPG)

Haedusmen and and Beestmen Lots of infantry to add to by Centaurs and Minotaurs to make a Herd army, style after KoW
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TiiJk4ohN40/V2bWqCRWjJI/AAAAAAAAGf4/OzM4kIBp8xU3O9DU7wwOyYSrg9Z7zzc0gCCo/s1280/IMG_1144.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 June 2016, 06:17:42 PM
WWI Some big British tanks, and supply carrier variants (in resin), a couple of German armoured cars and a few wagons

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IIAPZd7DxFM/V2bWqEza7JI/AAAAAAAAGf4/UEd79Z6agC0oVZRXH1QO09CQFqC_1D4XgCCo/s1280/IMG_1145.JPG)

WWII French a lot of infantry, mainly Dragons Portee to add to my existing armour. Some very nice sculpts here too.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tFeI7adsW1E/V2bWqA1oBEI/AAAAAAAAGf4/iYWxqLDD9o4I7mAhMwlrcl4RotmQllsEACCo/s1152/IMG_1146.JPG)

Sea Creatures - some octopi, fishmen, and giant crabs (who seem to have escaped the photo) These are to make a Netican army again based on KoW - a bit bonkers but fun, and pretty easy with the Pendraken figures

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7yoWvjFgLIY/V2bWqDZkjhI/AAAAAAAAGf4/YCNqjnVv8OI3I2Tr13rSy46_CpmQEahFQCCo/s1280/IMG_1147.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 June 2016, 06:21:32 PM
No... Not the fishmen... It will start the fish jokes!
Eel regret this folks!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 June 2016, 06:22:47 PM
And some painting! Today being Fathers day I got to mess around with models all day!! Yeah! And it rained lots this afternoon so gardening was off.

Cleaned and sprayed a bunch of stuff acquired yesterday

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fwFBqyWQC64/V2bWqGlAKCI/AAAAAAAAGf4/ge53E2p8tWEkYZcg919nPPmTDn1ksMd8QCCo/s1280/IMG_1152.JPG)

Sea Creatures
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ecL-brF5VY8/V2bWqF4AYnI/AAAAAAAAGf4/esnCglVPxMkSddjYUn6LD8mGyoaI5yXyQCCo/s1280/IMG_1149.JPG)
And started to get some paint on these chaps too! The giant crabs have made their way back into this photo. They crabs are really heavy, they are a big old chunk of lead.

Araby Knights
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0vMHzlxQjOE/V2bWqNYuanI/AAAAAAAAGf4/AjSePbtFvz8l9Q3PZMFxXCtXeB0yNCFEQCCo/s1280/IMG_1150.JPG)
Added Pendraken Janissary flags to these guys - only painted the cut edges of the red flags so far, still to do the green and black bits.
Also rebased the green and yellow knights off 20x40 bases on to 40x40 bases. They had been coming off the old bases and for our rules 40x40 bases are the standard, and make a nice heavy block when filled with cavalry.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 June 2016, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 19 June 2016, 06:21:32 PM
No... Not the fishmen... It will start the fish jokes!
Eel regret this folks!

:o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 19 June 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Nice 'haul' and like the knights.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 June 2016, 07:10:18 PM
He netted a decent amount!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 19 June 2016, 08:56:21 PM
 X_X

Good grief.  =)

Pleased you like the lizard mages, Forbes.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 19 June 2016, 09:46:04 PM
Love the knights Fred  8) Rudd-y good!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 20 June 2016, 07:03:38 AM
Excellent knights. I also like the look of that bridge, which could come in very useful in a Kissingen game I am planning.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 June 2016, 08:33:32 AM
How big is the bridge? I'm half thinking it might make a small pier for 28mm skirmish? Like a fishing platform or similar...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 June 2016, 11:47:30 AM
It's about 30mm across the walk way. It would work in 28mm as a small jetty or similar.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 June 2016, 11:53:45 AM
Cheers Fred!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 June 2016, 08:59:18 PM
Bridge with a 28mm figure, on a 1p base
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EHM7OgSyPNE/V2hJl8hv9iI/AAAAAAAAGgg/S_PD0taWJLwoNnfmLwK_GIu13tQb3ilsQCCo/s1280/IMG_1153.JPG)

And with a base of 10mm cavalry on a 40mm square base

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BU5P1xrWAmU/V2hJl5z1kfI/AAAAAAAAGgg/FKUlD-WkufwwogpVTQcMhb9HqyW83IeEgCCo/s1280/IMG_1154.JPG)

Works with both!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 June 2016, 08:05:08 AM
Sorted, cheers - I might indulge if I've a few spare pennies soon :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 June 2016, 09:29:48 PM
More detailing of the fishmen, green and white ones to the front, blue at the back tonight!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UL5LS-5Vfaw/V2sB1J1ggSI/AAAAAAAAGhI/KhjGCm95RRwhKlpxQtNdkIR6-We1knMvQCCo/s1280/IMG_1156.JPG)

Not quite sure if these are done or not? Do they need a bit more to lift them?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 22 June 2016, 10:28:38 PM
Give 'em a wash... more depth than lift maybe?

They are funky though - like 'em lots  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 23 June 2016, 12:42:18 AM
Not sure about the completely white fins and tails :-\
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2016, 04:39:37 AM
Maybe a wash. as Nik suggests ?

I think they'd look very different if they were on black, instead of white painting ........ er......stands ?

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 23 June 2016, 05:54:24 AM
I can't find Nemo?  :)

They look fine to me and I shall be interested to see how you base them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 June 2016, 06:44:30 AM
Most photos of tropical fish seem to have very white, white areas, often fins and tails. But these have a lot of sculpted depth to the fins, so might try a wash.

Also might move them off the white painting sticks to see how they look.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 23 June 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Fishmen army! I love them, good work Fred
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 June 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 23 June 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Fishmen army! I love them, good work Fred

Ta Jorge - it was seeing your figures that gave me inspiration to try this mad army!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nHSyTGdtjI/V2xRsvM_z2I/AAAAAAAAGho/6n52ZQ80ZZIg63Wwx_DaqcNj5kylJ5PuACCo/s1024/IMG_1165.JPG)


Got a quick brown wash on some fins and tails, and got the figures off the painting sticks. I was thinking of a bit of a beach effect on the bases - but not sure there is enough space, so might just go for sand and rock pools / puddles.

They do look like a flock of budgerigars to me a bit!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 June 2016, 10:02:25 PM
And got the legs and eyes of the crabs done too

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-caY9toGSB88/V2xcDTTverI/AAAAAAAAGiI/C9X2M-eBJ_oD5FExIWXl7Xoli-ALQ2r7QCCo/s1440/IMG_1166.JPG)

I'm pleased with how quickly these are coming along - as I didn't own these figures this time last week!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 24 June 2016, 12:12:19 PM
you are doing a good work there! Looking good.

When I did my monster crabs, I struggle to fit them in 20x40mm bases for warmaster. I see you do not have this problem
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 June 2016, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 24 June 2016, 12:12:19 PM
you are doing a good work there! Looking good.

When I did my monster crabs, I struggle to fit them in 20x40mm bases for warmaster. I see you do not have this problem

Thanks. They are beefy castings, even on a 40x40mm base I've ended up with some overhanging the back a little.


Tonight I did a very quick paint job on the Wooden Bridge (PS59)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J44mBwgdMTg/V3LkYzQM1mI/AAAAAAAAGi8/-0M5TyfcmTU3mjZ4-RzXsbizCTp9lr4PwCCo/s1024/IMG_1186.JPG)

And its come out pretty well for a couple of shades of brown, highlighted up a bit. I'll see how it looks in the morning when its dried, but I think its OK paint wise. I will then add a bit of flock to the sides of the ramps.


Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 June 2016, 09:09:57 PM
Game Photos from Friday

A couple of shots from mid-game last Friday night.

It was my Forces of Nature (lots of Pendraken figures) vs Demons, in a two objective battle, each player initially held an objective, and the aim was to attack the other, while holding your own.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vxTYfVtf7_I/V3LkYyRKGmI/AAAAAAAAGi8/Xw8ko3Q9vH40YtfGfDNYmKvOGkR0KqVowCCo/s1024/IMG_1169.JPG)

Here my Centaurs and Unicorns are facing off against some Dragon Ogres - the Unicorns were planning to charge past the dragon Ogres, but didn't do too well on their command roll.  At the back left, near the wood, is Tree Herder, who has just smashed all sorts of demons to pieces, and will eventually catch-up with the Dragon Ogres and do likewise. He was my best unit by far!!

The right flank - with my troops defending the hill (one of the objectives)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3Bf58Ba_Xsk/V3LkY8HLz3I/AAAAAAAAGi8/VS5sDl5VWQ4fB3tIMV9cZ2aArdDRLce8QCCo/s1024/IMG_1170.JPG)
The demons would eventually crash into these troops - but they took so long to get their that I had managed to summon a fire elemental into their flank - and the troops in the previous photo where able to move over to put even more pressure on the remaining ones.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 June 2016, 09:54:08 PM
Spiffing Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 29 June 2016, 06:05:20 AM
Excellent work on the bridge, I shall have to get one of those.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 29 June 2016, 06:25:37 AM
Excellent, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 June 2016, 06:28:38 AM
Quote from: Bodvoc on 29 June 2016, 06:05:20 AM
Excellent work on the bridge, I shall have to get one of those.

Thanks all. The bridge is a really nice model, well worth getting one (or two!)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 June 2016, 09:46:09 PM
Bit more work on the Fishmen Army, painted the octopi, and did a bit of base detailing

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9gCLcZi6inE/V3WQc5DALqI/AAAAAAAAGj4/NlQTMrGmkpQLHnyq1WMZCV93EIi6ao3PgCCo/s1024/IMG_1187.JPG)

The water spirits have come out with some really bad shadows in that photo!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 July 2016, 05:25:31 AM
Quote from: fred. on 30 June 2016, 09:46:09 PM
The water spirits have come out with some really bad shadows in that photo!

Still looking good, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 July 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Love it Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 July 2016, 04:26:37 PM
Had some time to myself this afternoon, so was able to get some basing done on the fishermen, and took some photos in daylight.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BdXxYamb0rE/V3aX2WXbsLI/AAAAAAAAGkc/IyM9jnm9_VkeLTE_b2_9yqJPlo1PA0YaQCCo/s1024/IMG_1192.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j64yoLEy6NA/V3aZbA6-SvI/AAAAAAAAGk8/tykX81fsZsoU9OCyMVqXOwwYofBEoUyagCCo/s1024/IMG_1190.JPG)

These have been fun and quick to paint up, and I'm really liking how they have turned out.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 July 2016, 04:53:44 PM
Good one
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 01 July 2016, 05:28:44 PM
Strange, but in the nicest possible way.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 July 2016, 05:32:58 PM
Don't you hake it when that happens!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 July 2016, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 01 July 2016, 05:28:44 PM
Strange, but in the nicest possible way.

Definitely strange!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 02 July 2016, 12:29:20 AM
Thumbs up
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 02 July 2016, 05:12:16 AM
 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 July 2016, 09:47:25 PM
Last Friday's Game

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hk2wRLGOeNA/V3mAX2iatUI/AAAAAAAAGmI/XMbswvIC5PkUtPfGks8MdUeqSLJx4owyACCo/s1280/IMG_1195.JPG)

More Fantasy mass battle using our home brew rules - this time using an Age of Sigma scenario, which had a summoning portal in the middle.

A fun game, I was Forces of Nature (lots of Pendraken figures) vs Vampire Counts. VC won, as they were able to get their summoner in, summon the second half of their army then get him away. I'd made an error in putting all my troops through the middle, should have put some fast movers as a flanking force.

The VC heavy cavalry did a dressage around the outside of the ruined castle - and were so ineffectual, and annoying in their mere useless presence that the VC commander removed them from the sub-commander, and put the figures away!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 05 July 2016, 10:40:54 PM
Like it - is that a Kallistra castle?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 06 July 2016, 06:01:48 AM
Looks like great fun, Forbes !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 July 2016, 06:53:12 AM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: nikharwood on 05 July 2016, 10:40:54 PM
is that a Kallistra castle?

Yep, a few bits of a mates very large collection of pieces. It needs a bit more painting, as it's essentially flat grey at the minute.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 July 2016, 10:13:56 AM
Nice looking game, especially like the castle.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 July 2016, 03:35:07 PM
Remind me either i) never to employ that construction company, or ii) to get some of the guns or rams that made so many breaches!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2016, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 July 2016, 03:35:07 PM
Remind me either i) never to employ that construction company, or ii) to get some of the guns or rams that made so many breaches!

It was supposed to be an old ruin!

But with some builders it could be brand new!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2016, 09:16:50 PM
Squats

Back to teeny-tiny bright-green space dwarfs

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e5zQfiPKxSA/V37GPrdT8iI/AAAAAAAAGpY/GCnMKEO5f2MaM0ilMaYoidxKNglQqZhbwCCo/s1280/IMG_1202.JPG)

Did some final detailing on these chaps, waiting for the final wash to dry, and should be able to base them up in the next couple of days
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 July 2016, 09:17:11 PM
Cool!  :o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2016, 09:33:23 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 07 July 2016, 10:52:08 PM
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 07 July 2016, 10:59:41 PM
 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2016, 04:56:18 AM
As above.  ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 July 2016, 08:27:08 PM
Friday's Game - more Fantasy with our own rules, but using Warmaster figures

The Empire gun line tries (unsuccessfully) to shoot off the undead cavalry cresting the hill
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XYzc-xVm8JA/V4KoCzmlNwI/AAAAAAAAGrM/adZZx1iNHzUmkIB-H0G3A2PVRqZoBPfOwCCo/s1280/IMG_1205.JPG)

The undead hordes mass to capture the village, while the Empire knights and flagellants prepare to wipe out the skeleton archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t4vrZCYcuW8/V4KoCw8cqaI/AAAAAAAAGrM/JRBdHdW2AMEuP-bGB5q7OzCqgePgRnqhQCCo/s1280/IMG_1206.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 10 July 2016, 11:48:59 PM
Looks good

Quote from: fred. on 10 July 2016, 08:27:08 PM
...The undead hordes mass to capture the village...

:-\ :-/

Fantasy is not my thing but cavalry capturing a village seems strange
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2016, 05:06:21 AM
Looks great, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 July 2016, 06:39:25 AM
Ta Chaps.

Paul, it's probably my quick explanations, in the second photo the black and red Knights, where about to by-pass the village and attack the bowmen at the top of the picture. It was the mass of infantry around the hill to the left who where about to take the village.

The first photo shows the other flank, slightly earlier in the game.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 11 July 2016, 06:40:33 AM
Nice, Forbes 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 July 2016, 05:17:51 PM
Squats - aka bright green space dwarves  :o

Got some lots of basing done on these guys over the weekend

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wnk8OnohbUI/V4PUUTesB-I/AAAAAAAAGrw/GPAdFS6kGQAldDiTdID1KUbQdV3MWNLIQCCo/s1024/IMG_1237.JPG)

Group shot of the army so far - close ups to follow
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 July 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Squats

Warrior Brotherhood, with two Goliath mega cannon in the background
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PdZcF3s2nDc/V4KoC8qparI/AAAAAAAAGrM/LK3Iqy0Fg44vYxG1WjICC8hiCoQeZEEtwCCo/s1024/IMG_1224.JPG)

2nd Warrior Brotherhood
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Adbkzw0aXsU/V4KoC25NJYI/AAAAAAAAGrM/OoGF4CDORnE4p3njGdrTf-k1MpXqbAHagCCo/s1024/IMG_1235.JPG)

Thunderers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TAXmkJpk1w4/V4KoC-NDWxI/AAAAAAAAGrM/ebOT8lYC9RcG4Bzvx_71Fnb1ZgCsEPMgQCCo/s1024/IMG_1226.JPG)

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 July 2016, 06:09:54 PM
Bikers Guild
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1oL7JtenmD0/V4KoC4h-aqI/AAAAAAAAGrM/DaK-5BxLmlw1Sewfc7DkTnprHAuEsm6RgCCo/s1024/IMG_1225.JPG)
I have lots more of these chaps to finish off - I got a lot painted off eBay, but need to move them from their predominately blue scheme to mine with more grey and green.

Iron Eagle Gyrocopters
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AnUUidQrFeM/V4KoC8u0dYI/AAAAAAAAGrM/NCk9KEoaWCoVUvtQH0yBTPIJqe-OonnywCCo/s800/IMG_1234.JPG)

Thudd Guns
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q2yKDeB96KI/V4KoC_1MXXI/AAAAAAAAGrM/tdutDuW89VAd5CdTzXeBAgMZEU9BWUDlwCCo/s1024/IMG_1227.JPG)

Tarantula sentry guns and Robots
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2Af2eqlhprc/V4KoCyUWj4I/AAAAAAAAGrM/uskxXeyl9J0jKpjaNd0K9b6V6Ejjo0pmACCo/s800/IMG_1233.JPG)

The main things left to paint are commanders and the war engines; the Land Trains and the Colossus, plus more infantry. But this looks a pretty playable force to be getting on with
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 11 July 2016, 06:36:35 PM
I've got a load of them but not half as good looking as those. Nice lookinig chaps.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2016, 07:10:35 PM
Very nice again, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 July 2016, 07:27:11 PM
Thanks.

Mick, I hadn't realised you were into Fantasy / SciFi stuff, I had you down as a sensible historical gamer  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 July 2016, 07:31:30 PM
Superb Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 16 July 2016, 09:11:26 PM
Been a bit poorly this week, so no painting until today  :'(   and even missed gaming on Friday night  :'( :'(

So with proper butterfly ability I've switched from Sci Fi to Pike and Shotte!

Had a rummage through the big box of LoA figures, sorted them into Baroque units, worked out a few more things that need buying (of course!!). And got a unit of foot and one of horse sprayed.

I have made good progress on the foot this evening:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cD13od75vts/V4qgshYiPxI/AAAAAAAAGtQ/mbWBYoxTwFYvfkAE-G-GQJhGwpNEeNoYwCCo/s1024/IMG_1240.JPG)

William's Garde te Voet - I've gone fairly strong orange on the facings, there seems to be no great agreement on what shade they should be from yellow, through orange to red. But as he is Prince of Orange, the choice seems pretty simple to me!!

I've already got a handful of these chaps painted from a couple of years ago, so I unbased them - which turned out to be very easy, as I'd used wood filler, that loosen easily in some water.  They are going to be big units with 3 x 40x40mm bases, with around 50 figures in total. 

Faces, wood work and buff leather to do next
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 17 July 2016, 05:50:28 AM
Very nice, Forbes.

Those are going to look dead zippy.
Trust you're feeling lots better.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 July 2016, 06:04:56 AM
Nice one Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 July 2016, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Techno on 17 July 2016, 05:50:28 AM.
Trust you're feeling lots better.

Yes thanks, nothing serious just felt very rubbish for a few days.


I've been doing some more research on LoA era units, and I think I might be over doing the pikes a bit. I've gone for 1 base of pikes to 2 bases of muskets. Which seems to be the typical ratio for ECW, but by the 1690s the ratio seems to have dropped to 1:3 or even 1:5, with a few notable units dropping pikes entirely.

So I may need to add a few more musketeers to the central stand and drop the number of pikemen. Which is a pain as I sorted out figures into units yesterday  >:(

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 July 2016, 09:36:49 PM
Garde te Voet

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CUsjyPsdRXw/V4v4bxHSklI/AAAAAAAAGt4/KFQcf-jrbP43Vcg2C0eEOF9et1d0tjxpgCCo/s1024/IMG_1244.JPG)

Lot more work on these guys today, all the colours filled in, with a second pass to get the gaps - the biggest pain with white base coat. Highlights added to blue, orange, and flesh.

Thinking about adding a brown wash - might try to just add this to the non-blue areas - then I think these guys are pretty much there, maybe a bit of gold on the officers. Apparently hats and uniforms were fairly plain, so the troopers should be OK as is.

Next up a Jacobite cavalry regiment.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 18 July 2016, 04:50:58 AM
Ho !..Yus !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 July 2016, 09:01:02 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-By_h_UZrzz4/V41CzI_oZaI/AAAAAAAAGvE/MquP3CVwZFwVdjwBWwH0HdsDdW-qRlsHQCCo/s800/IMG_1249.JPG)

Pretty much done with these guys now (unless I need a few more shooters to replace some of the pikes, as I think I've got the pike ratio too high)

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 July 2016, 09:11:04 PM
About 30 pike per unit, so a scale of 10 figures works
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 July 2016, 09:12:50 PM
Yes, I was thinking around 12 pike, 24 shotte, and 6-8 command. Unfortunately I've painted 16 pike - but might turn a couple into standard bearers!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 18 July 2016, 09:48:42 PM
They certainly look the business.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 July 2016, 02:04:01 AM
Why not just shunt the surplus to the next regiment?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 July 2016, 06:46:25 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 19 July 2016, 02:04:01 AM
Why not just shunt the surplus to the next regiment?
Because regiments had different coat colours - lots of reds and greys, not so many blues. So yes they can be transferred but will need a fair bit of repainting.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 July 2016, 07:16:09 AM
There is a second  guard de voet regiment, or even pain't their leggings grey and they can be command for Danish or Earl of Oxford's
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 19 July 2016, 07:17:37 AM
Going very nicely, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 July 2016, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 19 July 2016, 07:16:09 AM
There is a second  guard de voet regiment, or even pain't their leggings grey and they can be command for Danish or Earl of Oxford's

Good ideas, I'm also thinking of doing some recently raised Jacobite troops in civilian clothes, so a couple in blue will fit in with a quick paint over of the orange bits.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 July 2016, 09:41:39 PM
Garde te Voet

Got these chaps based up tonight - bit hot for actual painting

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--aKnbKDr0vc/V46c8RyORvI/AAAAAAAAGvs/zK5i-56zBpYYfBEc34hmce78yr_1Khm1gCCo/s1440/IMG_1250.JPG)

Really pleased with how they look. Need to finish the bases, and find some nice big flags. Oversize flags seem to work well for this era.

I finally went with 8 pikes, and 2 pikemen as standard bearers. 24 shotte and 7 command.

For other units I think I will mix in 3-4 grenadiers on the shot bases, and generally stick with the 10 pike. So I need to re-jig the bags of figures I sorted out at the weekend  >:( But it will probably give me a couple more completed units  :D

These have been a speed production unit - 4 days from spraying to basing (well apart from 8 chaps who were done a couple of years ago!)

Cavalry next.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 July 2016, 10:13:18 PM
Iain at Flags of War very kindly resized his amazing flags for me.
http://www.flagsofwar.com
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 20 July 2016, 02:46:23 AM
Quote from: fred. on 19 July 2016, 06:46:25 AM
Because regiments had different coat colours - lots of reds and greys, not so many blues. So yes they can be transferred but will need a fair bit of repainting.

OK, frustrating, that. But not entirely a disaster. How many times have beginners in Napoleonics had to come to terms with the fact that their lack of knowledge of horsey terms has led them to colour the mounts of the Scots Greys wrongly?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 July 2016, 06:03:23 AM
I think those look dead zippy, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 20 July 2016, 06:34:11 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 20 July 2016, 02:46:23 AM
OK, frustrating, that. But not entirely a disaster. How many times have beginners in Napoleonics had to come to terms with the fact that their lack of knowledge of horsey terms has led them to colour the mounts of the Scots Greys wrongly?
Because the right way is............?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 20 July 2016, 06:38:55 AM
Ask Lady Butler. She said it far better than I ever could.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 20 July 2016, 08:27:20 AM
Now fortunately the original, which is truly massive, is in Liverpool Art Gallery, so I'll take a look next time I'm in town. It also houses "...and when did you last see your father?"
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 20 July 2016, 08:42:01 AM
In the Walker? Is it? When did that happen?

Must pop along and have a look.  :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 July 2016, 04:30:49 PM
Came home to a Pendraken Parcel  :) :) 8) 8)

The main contents are a set of the new hedges - and very nice the look too, quite a bushy chunky 3D look to them

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v13dhgYQf2o/V5D2QuET7FI/AAAAAAAAGwk/FWId9JpP1_ADpZwMW8RAhlv9awm-3JeBACCo/s1024/IMG_1277.JPG)

A few bits of MDF and only a few figures this time.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 22 July 2016, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: fsn on 20 July 2016, 08:42:01 AM
In the Walker? Is it? When did that happen?

Must pop along and have a look.  :D
They've both been in the Walker since I was a kid in thew 50s. Last time I went, three or four years ago, to the Henry VII exhibition, they were still there.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 July 2016, 07:37:43 PM
High Elf Bolt Throwers

We have a big game coming up next weekend, due to a fortunate coincidence of most of our group's families being away next weekend!

And reviewing my massed elven forces http://www.kerynne.com/games/WMElf.html decided that a few more bolt throwers would be useful:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MzgVNmtABaY/V5UUj9LlqvI/AAAAAAAAGx4/FnUCYG-y4BkA5FpOmyiTWbLbXIjZ_xhRQCCo/s1024/IMG_1283.JPG)

A quick but functional paint job - sprayed these on Saturday morning - based them this afternoon.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 July 2016, 08:10:00 PM
Quote from: fred. on 24 July 2016, 07:37:43 PM
A quick but functional paint job ...

If that's what counts as a quick but functional paint job then if anybody wants me I'll be in the library with a decanter of brandy, a pistol and one bullet :)

Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 July 2016, 08:43:04 PM
 :)

They do seem to have come out well!

I'm not sure how much time I spent on them, but it could really only have been yesterday evening, as I was out from mid morning on Sat, till late afternoon, and at work this morning - and I think I only did basing and a little dry brushing today.

I think it shows that I have got the hang of painting what needs painting, and not too much else, especially with GW Elves! These made use of lots of dry brushing and the use of a couple of strong colours.

The bolt throwers were sprayed white, to save a whole lot of over painting too.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 25 July 2016, 05:25:28 AM
Look stonking, Forbes.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 July 2016, 06:18:25 AM
Nice one Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 July 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Thanks chaps.

Hedges

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jtyGUlT8WMA/V5aE9UxfZcI/AAAAAAAAGyU/i9cs9NFSdx4m8BRpZ4x1mEeN7j0WqWs4gCCo/s1024/IMG_1286.JPG)

Put a few shades of green on these, over a black spray.

They still look quite dark - its very hard to get paint into the deeper areas. I'd suggest using a dark green spray if you have one, rather than black with these.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 25 July 2016, 10:21:31 PM
Liking those hedges 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2016, 04:52:56 AM
Same here !  8)

I think you're right though, Forbes.....Maybe just a tad too dark...But still damn good.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 July 2016, 09:22:46 PM
Thanks guys - they are super quick to paint up - and are a good size, both vertically and the width

Get the last few done tonight  - I think this is them - but frankly its a bit hard to tell now!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hLePfEIGV_A/V5fTi6VFDnI/AAAAAAAAGzA/ai_6InARpcshy8zBKsSQDBwJO33kIoIGQCCo/s1024/IMG_1287.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 27 July 2016, 06:33:24 AM
 8)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 July 2016, 06:57:04 AM
Looking great
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 27 July 2016, 06:58:21 AM
They do look good and will be very useful.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 27 July 2016, 02:56:55 PM
I have found that Vallejo Sky Green makes a very good final dry brush on trees.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 27 July 2016, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: Leman on 27 July 2016, 02:56:55 PM
I have found that Vallejo Sky Green makes a very good final dry brush on trees.

Of the many Vallejo greens, I don't have that one, but from a quick google it looks a good shade. I will add it to a future order.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 July 2016, 08:17:24 AM
Big Game - Elves vs Undead

The opening moves
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xQIUBcnevrs/V5xgAmJWe_I/AAAAAAAAG0k/O2YQYQvzDgQ8GR6XP8Tvvu8RUXH98aJ_gCCo/s1024/IMG_1321.JPG)


Mid-game
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y9ctyJjnU0M/V5xgAvo2tBI/AAAAAAAAG0k/xwndGp9Z150MgLQNCt27bYstQqwIsN1YgCCo/s1024/IMG_1335.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 July 2016, 09:22:20 AM
Lovely looking game! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 30 July 2016, 09:37:33 AM
Very nice layout.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2016, 10:09:45 AM
Very nice looking game.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2016, 10:17:45 AM
That look terrific !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Steve J on 30 July 2016, 11:50:08 AM
Damned impressive looking game 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 30 July 2016, 12:07:45 PM
Awsome!!!


I want a table as big as that!!!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 30 July 2016, 08:58:12 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 July 2016, 10:35:19 PM
Thanks guys. Not my table, but virtually all the Elves are mine, the undead split between 3 of our group.

More tomorrow, as I've just got back from part two of the battle followed by board games.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2016, 06:46:48 AM
Quote from: fred. on 30 July 2016, 10:35:19 PM
Thanks guys. Not my table, but virtually all the Elves are mine, the undead split between 3 of our group.

Wish I lived close to someone with a table (and figures) like that.
Be nice to have a game with some of the soldiers I make all day  ;)

Cheers - Phil (Not bitter and twisted, at all.  ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: Techno on 31 July 2016, 06:46:48 AM
Be nice to have a game with some of the soldiers I make all day  ;)

Aww  :'( Should we be arranging a grand day out for Techno?


Day Two of the big battle
The Elves mass for the assault on the summoning circle in the background - there still look to be rather a lot of undead in the way!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kq4G5tfUCXA/V5xgAhS76zI/AAAAAAAAG0k/YZs_nxSCG-ApWISz6SvIrN5bei-QRG4nQCCo/s1024/IMG_1333.JPG)

Over on the right, my co-commander is shooting
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jgKmHn6-C2c/V5xgAsSbFSI/AAAAAAAAG0k/gB3X6o5jjswNNW4jjFJW_lh85T1FVqz7wCCo/s1024/IMG_1336.JPG)

More fighting in the centre - the elves started to loose a lot of units around this time
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n2S3pKKn5Nw/V526REV3x6I/AAAAAAAAG1w/I_gMfrfTQNQp9i7kKJXhYrRiyAi_RQRgACCo/s1024/IMG_1338.JPG)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 09:08:45 AM
Over on the left flank, my holding force has been smashed by the Vampire Knights, I had held them up for some time, and killed a lot of their lighter stuff, but now they were free on the flank, though distant from the rest of the elven forces. In the distance you may be able to make out the eagles about to enter the summoning circle, to attack the wizard - the objective of the battle.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IhGsLnWsBOo/V526RNny7kI/AAAAAAAAG1w/bpf3yCHbzSIzhzM-ZM21EpH_mtD7chamACCo/s1024/IMG_1340.JPG)

The right flank - these Elves are finally if belatedly putting some pressure on the summoning circle
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PPd6q1dEIKc/V526RIN6PMI/AAAAAAAAG1w/10Q4qcFEqocYirr7HrdaSNEpaPUfZPZAACCo/s1024/IMG_1341.JPG)

The eagles near the summoning circle where attacked by 2 necromancers who flamed them, killing one. The other managed to hop over the defending skeleton spearmen, and line up an attack on the summoner - but when he finally charged he failed to damage the summoner  :-[

A good game, and really great to be able to play a big game over an evening and the following morning. I've realised that I have too many Elves, as this wasn't all my troops on the table! There are more knights, eagles and horse archers that didn't get on the table...

Ultimately the Undead proved too strong - they are very hard to kill, and while they don't put out that much damage there are so many they start to take a toll through sheer weight of numbers.

Then in the afternoon we got to play some board games - the standout one being Evolution where you try to create species that can survive and grow, and sometimes eat other species. Very nicely produced game, simple idea, but with very good interactions between the mechanisms.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 July 2016, 09:11:01 AM
Coolio
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 July 2016, 09:55:26 AM
Great looking game and a nice report!

If you liked Evolution you might also enjoy Bios: Megafauna

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/97915/bios-megafauna

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1890044_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2016, 12:21:16 PM
Super piccies again, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 31 July 2016, 12:25:15 PM
You can never have too many elves!
Nice pictures of a great looking game, what is the gaming cloth?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: mollinary on 31 July 2016, 12:33:47 PM
Looks like one of the mats sold by Simon Miller in his BigRedBat Shop. I think they are produced by Deep Cut Studio in Lithuania. Simon sells them both with and without grids marked on them , and in a variety of sizes.  I have five, and am very pleased with them.

Mollinary
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 12:54:32 PM
Yep, Deep Cut Studio. The guys in our group have a few of them. The pattern really breaks up the 'solid green' that besets so many gaming tables. Even at this size the repeat in the pattern isn't apparent.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 31 July 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Thanks for letting me know about the Deepcut mats, I shall have a look at them because they do look good.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 09:29:55 PM
LoA Tyrconnel's Horse (Jacobite)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_KCLQ-Q8FI/V55s1Hl6xqI/AAAAAAAAG2Q/MTw0Q6fNl1kAiX1-uUjwcUlb3DwR7GmkACCo/s1152/IMG_1344.JPG)

My first horse regiment from the LoA range - gone for dark red coats and white trim. Most of the base colours blocked in now. There is a lot of detail on these figures, they seem more complex to paint than the foot.

They are also surprisingly well armed, as well as the expected sword and pistols, they all also have a carbine, which I wasn't expecting.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 31 July 2016, 10:12:36 PM
Cracking battle, Forbes :)

Nice Jacobite horse too 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 01 August 2016, 04:44:43 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 August 2016, 06:03:29 AM
Looking damn fine, Forbes.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 01 August 2016, 07:10:07 AM
Nice looking cavalry unit.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 August 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Thanks chaps, but I think a lot of the praise should be going Clib's way, as I just need to let the brush follow the sculpting for all the white lining.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 August 2016, 04:58:11 PM
Oh, nice one Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 August 2016, 09:22:57 PM
More work on Tyrconnel's Horse

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H-Hd5Eqx0ys/V5-8LJVCmdI/AAAAAAAAG3E/Luptw-SU1H0tlB_7WcP-q3sqCqLpV2gYQCCo/s1152/IMG_1347.JPG)

Another coat of red to strengthen it a bit. Gloves and cross belts done buff. Lace gone over with white. Wood darkened. Tack gone over in black. Blanket rolls done in a couple of greyish colours.

Still need to do hat lace, highlights on the horses, socks and blazes on horses. White lace on the back strip, which I realised I had missed when I took the photo  :-[

De La Meloniere (Williamite)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kM3iKzHkXvE/V5-8LORr6JI/AAAAAAAAG3E/OYP9a0ErFNw5o-t4sOFFebnlnLwXT6ekwCCo/s1152/IMG_1349.JPG)
And a start on one of William's Huguenot foot regiments, they will have blue facings.
Just a wash of medium grey so far, with hats and wood done.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 01 August 2016, 10:56:02 PM
8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 August 2016, 11:20:47 PM
Really good job!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 02 August 2016, 02:11:28 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 August 2016, 02:33:34 AM
Stop showing up my shortcomings as a painter!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 02 August 2016, 05:21:24 AM
Great stuff, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 August 2016, 06:21:01 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 August 2016, 02:33:34 AM
Stop showing up my shortcomings as a painter!

;D  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 August 2016, 07:51:30 PM
Not many updates for the last couple of weeks, between holidays, olympics and work.

One thing I have been working on is some base extensions for some of my Elementals. These figures were originally based on 40x30mm bases, for Kings of War. But for our home brew rules 40x40mm is the order of the day, and while 40x30mm isn't too much of a problem, it occasionally causes a bit of confusion. Rather than rebasing, which is always far too much work, I got Leon to cut me some 4x40mm and 5x40mm strips of MDF to glue on to the existing bases. This has worked well - I went for a 9mm addition rather than 10mm as I thought there would be a little extra width added by the gluing - but probably 5mm on each edge would have worked fine.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OmCTx4F-eNtIq-sCwtfFiXedZHhEp0M7L9GPogcy-HijSc_lkyGGFFgCINUqgd6vpcRgDZpQBV1Ydg=w2560-h1440-no)
Here you can see the raw mdf extensions - I also took the opportunity to add some dice holders.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_7ApwAfOx_U5dc3l9vqLoeKBNC0eG5LaTo6vcSgsyJ63K1n5InsxkKKa6wI8GjPy-2rJOQTja2_qVQ=w2560-h1440-no)
And here with the extra bits of base painted and flocked.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 August 2016, 07:57:47 PM
Looking damn fine, Forbes.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 August 2016, 08:09:04 PM
As the great Eric Morecambe would say "You can't see the join you know!"
Nice one Forbes! :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 August 2016, 09:25:39 PM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 21 August 2016, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 August 2016, 08:09:04 PM
As the great Eric Morecambe would say "You can't see the join you know!"
Nice one Forbes! :)

Seconded :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 21 August 2016, 09:46:45 AM
Like the basing idea and the rest are rather nice as well.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 August 2016, 01:21:00 PM
Tyrconnell's Horse
Got the last bits of lace and tack done on these guys - and then stuck on bases.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eAkFEeIhixFOi2uTjoMRLT9eI-kZbYhqQ6tsigxqjxUHF1pfPOCPIdTOeYeYgI3pN_eHEWR86xDZeQ=w2560-h1440-no)

Still the bases to finish off, along with a flag.

Highlanders
From the reading I have done it seems likely that by the time of the Boyne most Highland units had been re-clothed and re-equipped like most other troops - but for the previous year more traditionally equipped  highland units were involved (and I had these guys nearly ready anyway!)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nZiibY1j238zco4mpows7p4XIWTPhoP7k9a-4r3hZnZfh9JKG1mKTjdjkFWAMWpOo5WmaHPYWz3iyA=w2560-h1440-no)

Again bases and flags to do, a bit of a theme here...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2016, 01:23:06 PM
Look awesome Forbes! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 August 2016, 01:28:28 PM
Thanks mate, they are very nice figures which makes painting them easier in some ways, and harder in other ways as you feel you have to paint all the different bits of kit.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 21 August 2016, 02:59:12 PM
Yep...They look belting !

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 21 August 2016, 08:17:16 PM
Ta, Phil.

Got Tyrconnel's horse and the Garde te Voet based up this afternoon

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/go1qT8ZZZqIkVle_5fPCu9eQq_e0zefsYgkR-PzVVrMmJSNImnJV4_yMG5xZ7yLGfRGPU993Vyvbbg=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4CDtgQ0q1_l1Wn5qc4ZfwckPnss1_3MGf8nEtah-6cP0Ko9F7GO3WIAXP5b9CVqQFFg34LgxDHgWdA=w2560-h1440-no)

Just need to add some flags - can anyone confirm the sizes of the Pendraken LoA flags?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 21 August 2016, 08:31:08 PM
Excellent, Forbes !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2016, 08:31:29 PM
Superb! 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 22 August 2016, 01:26:24 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
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Post by: Leman on 22 August 2016, 06:36:50 AM
Very nice indeed,
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Post by: petercooman on 22 August 2016, 07:11:06 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 22 August 2016, 09:23:12 AM
Nice looking chaps and the bases definitely show them off.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 August 2016, 11:24:53 AM
Thanks chaps.

The basing has really helped the photos.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 August 2016, 12:19:28 PM
Mmmmmmmmm....
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 August 2016, 09:17:46 PM
Williamite Huguenot Regiment

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QUVk39jfvZyX1on0Utb-Wc2F4dIsuoCqVDCV4eeasemHjhY22Z1YhLd5dV-D35rewIOpVlWpGl6XDA=w2560-h1440-no)

Moderately generic French regiment in grey coats, with blue cuffs, armed with matchlocks. They will probably get flags to represent De La Meloniere.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: clibinarium on 22 August 2016, 09:42:46 PM
Very nice. The white undercoat seems to work well.

You might want to hold over the pikes for another unit though. Huguenot regiments at the Boyne appear not to have had any and suffered from the attentions of Irish cavalry. Why they had none has never really been explained to me as French, Dutch and English infantry all used them. Danes I think had discarded them (though appear to have readopted them in the GNW after being worsted by the Swedes).
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 August 2016, 06:42:23 AM
Thanks clib - the white under coat does help lift the colours, it worked very well on the dutch blue guard, less sure on the grey coated troops.

As to the pikes - great point. I had read this a while ago, but then clearly forgotten about it! From what I read it seems that it was only at the Boyne that the Hugenonets didn't have pikes, there are suggestions that this might have been due to the need to cross the river (but other units took their pikes with them), they seem to have had them at other times in the campaign. I think I had the idea of making a central stands with command and pikes, and being able to swap the pikes out for more shotte if needed. But as I have only painted pikes it looks like this was more of an idea than something that was executed.

At this time the Danish do seem to have only been using musket armed troops with no pikes. Interesting to hear that later they added the pikes back in.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 August 2016, 07:53:50 AM
Very nice.
Good point Clib
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 August 2016, 09:30:11 PM
Grey/Blue Regiment

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/avKNZ2DolaIxritJYEsEsaCYPdemJf9TIW1jwzgEYMd12pYPMtq5_zwMkzFzhzCRUEGrIr6MUPG6tw=w2560-h1440-no)

Lots of detailing and finishing off on these chaps tonight. Pretty much done other than hat lace, and maybe a brighter silver on the officers' weapons.

Still haven't really decided what I'm doing with the pike / Huguenot conundrum.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 August 2016, 11:27:08 PM
Historical accuracy or rule of cool?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 August 2016, 08:28:25 AM
Or they might get a transfer to the Jacobite cause.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 24 August 2016, 08:34:40 AM
Will it be more hassle explaining why they haven't got pikes to people who assume they should have them, or explaining that you KNOW they didn't have them but you'd already painted the figures and people expect to see them :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 24 August 2016, 09:40:09 AM
The latter is what I would go with.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 August 2016, 06:58:45 PM
So give them pikes, seems to be the consensus?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 24 August 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Yes, pikes all the way!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 24 August 2016, 08:52:45 PM
Stupid Boy! Don't tell'em Pike.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 August 2016, 09:15:05 PM
I'm not adding a red scarf  ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 24 August 2016, 09:46:59 PM
Until/unless/you can be bothered to acquire and then paint the musketeers to replace them, I'd go pike. They can always form the nucleus for another unit later :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 25 August 2016, 06:07:34 AM
Looking terrific, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 August 2016, 06:43:29 AM
Based these chaps last night, and left the glue to set overnight, so some quick snaps this morning before work

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3S-ELDhoIcn9kalkpyS_G0mhr--2_csDXOGp7M5_3_zxJVBSBFCvhWF6xXlYCheNTMSE1cfg5PWRQ=w2560-h1440-no)

And as they are marching, arranged in column

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lsIyYdCP6aI_tU87_Ej3dYSLdstJnuRS5uzGMhey707S6VC1oUCpCgrHFOHAsnXcaAKPWQz2u8kL1w=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 25 August 2016, 07:07:03 AM
Quote from: fred. on 24 August 2016, 09:15:05 PM
I'm not adding a red scarf  ;)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 August 2016, 07:33:40 AM
Quote from: Leman on 25 August 2016, 07:07:03 AM
;D ;D ;D
Just paint one collar lace red...

Look great on the bases Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 August 2016, 08:21:12 AM
Looking cracking! I do like the beefy units. Now, get cracking on the alternate command sans pikes ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 August 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: toxicpixie on 25 August 2016, 08:21:12 AM
I do like the beefy units. Now, get cracking on the alternate command sans pikes ;)

Yep, they do look good with the 3 bases and 40 figures - but they take some painting to get there!

The alternate command can wait.

Next...

King James' Foot Guard

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/o0OEtVugfAQSv-_jouyMvRhmXw20BCpiahFs9QW22Oz0eHYa8KCJqXMHJ-vdZ1RCgu7vqecfjpFTGA=w2560-h1440-no)
These guys will be in red (you might have spotted that!) with blue cuffs and waistcoats.
As a royal unit they will have a fair bit of gold lace, including hat trim.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 August 2016, 10:21:28 PM
Good call
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 27 August 2016, 10:54:18 AM
Call to arms
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 27 August 2016, 04:43:18 PM
A very striking red, Forbes....
I like that lots !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 August 2016, 09:37:48 PM
Been away for a few days, so no painting.

But had quite a bit of time this afternoon and evening, so have made decent progress with King James' II Foot Guard

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6nQIiNFxk_5p7bGJ0kEQXBUh3qiYJm-U_J_-tNCz36ZAdULkVqCQceN9LV-GQHWV4HH_TEOSp4NUog=w2560-h1440-no)

Most of the main colours blocked in now.

Next up, white neck cloths, assorted browns for hair and shoes, oily steel for metal work on weapons. Some tidying up on the red. Officers' sashes in dark reddish purple. Then the fiddly bits of blue hat bands, and yellow hat lace.

Need to work out what to do with the grenadiers' caps too.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 August 2016, 10:11:45 PM
Very nice Forbes.
Grenadiers I put bronze squiggles in mine, IR (as Latin doesn't have a J)?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 September 2016, 06:22:33 AM
I DO like the look of those !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 September 2016, 09:27:25 PM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: mad lemmey on 31 August 2016, 10:11:45 PM
Grenadiers I put bronze squiggles in mine, IR (as Latin doesn't have a J)?
Good idea - I'll give that a go

Got the next 3 units prepped and sprayed today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X_DKwcCqGG7U8sXLFt8fRfTY5y4vOafsekOUOsfwifCyHZ0pVsckFY3vA-0J4gk-jQcoy_VhPWRs1w=w2560-h1440-no)
A unit of cavalry wielding pistols, another grey clad matchlock regiment, and a levy regiment with a mix 50% matchlocks, 50% pole arms (they might get a couple of pikes thrown in too) these guys will be in civilian clothes so a mix of browns and greens will predominate.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 September 2016, 09:53:33 PM
King James' Foot Guard

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cxwqcutp9DtE7j5fjlX2_AgjVmKxD6-necn-CNptX-8ILZPDenG82dzXQBzf7qX2D3O4UQOjXyfhw=w2560-h1440-no)

Most of the painting done on these chaps now, other than the hat lace (not looking forward to that in yellow).

Plus gold details, and probably some highlighting of the blue.

I also seem to have manage to loose a pike  >:(
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 September 2016, 10:58:51 PM
White first, then yellow, it will stand out better on the hat trim
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 02 September 2016, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 September 2016, 10:58:51 PM
White first, then yellow, it will stand out better on the hat trim

Seconded
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 September 2016, 04:58:33 AM
They clearly had some dazzling techniques for dyeing cloth in Anne's days!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 02 September 2016, 07:17:14 AM
Even in those days they had pop!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 September 2016, 07:46:15 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 September 2016, 10:58:51 PM
White first, then yellow, it will stand out better on the hat trim

that sounds tricky, I can see small bits of white appearing on the edges of the yellow. Might try the GW dark yellow base coat rather than white, then any missed bits will just look like shadow.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 September 2016, 04:58:33 AM
They clearly had some dazzling techniques for dyeing cloth in Anne's days!

Smaller figures, brighter colours.

Even though this is one of my deeper reds it has come out quite vivid over the white.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 September 2016, 08:40:25 PM
King James' Foot Guard


Got these chaps finished off and based over the weekend

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jnQ2pFoxYlyjE_63CidU1X4B2jUTReVgNA4VF-Ipj_7YBWt07tUrKat0Ae5mxIJPxL4Kz4mHlknDfg=w2560-h1440-no)

They are quite vivid, but I quite like that!

Also flocked the bases of Regiment Meloniere

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JFjMmhexoBdQIjdlWZmdqQfNYB3kRp146yZpU6qFUn7-1DdW87yPEnDDR3x2-N-3dqtr27NDjxowWg=w2560-h1440-no)

I've been working through the various units involved in the Battle of the Boyne, particularly the combat on the river, and have put together a bit of a spreadsheet, to work out whats what, and what I have and what I need. So a little (well not so little) order will be heading off to Pendraken towers soon.


And finally...

Finished the basing on these guys, who were painted ages ago, and for some reason had missed out on the final bits of basing

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WT7IqVkapwU0PwzefY0vg2wMMOfF9MtBdocZI7m6pLl3AU9SwU1TCCYT0CN542XxZnEhiG9uCoINDA=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 04 September 2016, 09:00:36 PM
 :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 04 September 2016, 09:35:01 PM
Thanks Peter  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: d_Guy on 04 September 2016, 11:29:48 PM
Really good looking units Fred.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 05 September 2016, 04:26:13 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 05 September 2016, 05:59:50 AM
Belting stuff, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 05 September 2016, 06:50:29 AM
Looking very good there.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Steve J on 05 September 2016, 11:23:37 AM
Excellent work once again 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 September 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Thanks everyone  -  as I've said before these are great figures, and really reward a bit of effort in painting them.

I've put off painting them for ages, and now am really getting through some units.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 September 2016, 04:04:16 PM
Very cool Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 September 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Next!

Marquis de Boiseleau's Regiment, Jacobite

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VXFAaoNhnddkQ0AJMpWLVwcbBMb8wN55iB9l3HgPj8SBZF1yl5t1b4_J6K_L40b1mMkN23WPBPum1w=w2560-h1440-no)

This was an Irish regiment from the Cork area, commanded by a French officer (you might have spotted this from the name!)

Cheated a bit with grey undercoat on these - as they have grey coats. Even though they have had a dry brush of light grey, I think I will lighten them further. They will get red cuffs.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 September 2016, 09:57:42 PM
Very nice Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 September 2016, 10:11:41 PM
Ta.

Although looking at that photo, I don't seem to have done much! :o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2016, 06:19:10 AM
I dunno....They look rather zippy to me.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 September 2016, 08:26:01 AM
Would you really carry a pike like that? It looks like a broken collar-bone waiting to happen from accumulative bouncing! I mean to say, ouch!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2016, 08:29:11 AM
Drawings from the time very much show that pose.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 September 2016, 11:58:57 AM
They also show rhinos wearing leather pajamas, however!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 12:02:50 PM
If a rhino wants to wear leather pajamas, I'm not going to argue with him!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 September 2016, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 September 2016, 11:58:57 AM
They also show rhinos wearing leather pajamas, however!

Contemporary artists are likely to have seen considerably more pikemen than rhinos - infinitely more in most cases.

Also - "pyjamas" unless you've taken to using US English? How are the mighty fallen! ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 September 2016, 12:13:53 PM
I've never joined in this forum's prevailing "We loathe the US because they've got too much money" drive. Not least, in this instance, because it's an Indian word and they spell it that way.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 12:46:26 PM
Hell, all languages (esp. English) are fully mutable and usage and spelling and punctuation merely guidelines.

None of them really matter, so long as the meaning is understood ;)

Now... pajama, pajam's, pajamas' or pyjama, pyjama's or pyjamas' or just p"$whatever"mas?!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 September 2016, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 12:46:26 PM
Hell, all languages (esp. English) are fully mutable and usage and spelling and punctuation merely guidelines.

None of them really matter, so long as the meaning is understood ;)

Now... pajama, pajam's, pajamas' or pyjama, pyjama's or pyjamas' or just p"$whatever"mas?!

My feeling entirely tp but regularly not FK's so I felt a little gentle feline tail pulling was in order :)

Also, personally, I feel American English is often nearer to the English our forebears (Goldilocks only had three bears but I have forebears :)  ) spoke than modern English is.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 01:44:24 PM
So I read the deepest vernacular of the most closely guarded communities in my local ish area is most akin to old english. Basically if you speak like you're from deepest Dudley you're pretty much spot on for actual English :D

Arrrriahmitrightourbab?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2016, 02:01:42 PM
PJs
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 06 September 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Jarmies
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: d_Guy on 06 September 2016, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 06 September 2016, 02:01:42 PM
PJs
This! This is what we call 'em. Oh! And send money, thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 02:43:45 PM
Jim-jams, surely?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2016, 02:52:04 PM
Jammys ?

(I thought they'd all but 'died out'......Nobody post any pictures....Per-leeeeese.)  :-\

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2016, 03:12:18 PM
I only started wearing them after my wife bought me two avengers themed legs!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 03:30:58 PM
Which one? Hulk, Cap, Black Widow?!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 September 2016, 03:51:53 PM
Purdey and Emma Peel
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2016, 05:58:42 PM
I wish!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2016, 06:25:16 PM
 :o  >:(  >:(

Leave you lot alone for the afternoon and we go from sensible discussions about how to carry pikes to the Avengers via rhinos

....

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2016, 06:29:00 PM
You were expecting anything less of us? ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 September 2016, 06:29:55 PM
I object ... you left out the part where we had a brief foray into English Language and Linguistics :-)

The position of the pikes is, however, attested to in too many contemporary illustrations not to have been used in reality.

There ... back on track .... maybe ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2016, 06:36:51 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 06 September 2016, 06:29:00 PM
You were expecting anything less of us? ;D

My expectations are suitably set.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 06 September 2016, 06:29:55 PM
I object ... you left out the part where we had a brief foray into English Language and Linguistics :-)

Well that's always happening.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 September 2016, 04:12:25 AM
Haven't worn 'em for decades. Everything accessible to those allowed to get that close. ;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 September 2016, 10:03:10 PM
Leaving that image a long way away....


Here's a better image, more toy soldiers

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UHuNnu17elFj7WM9dnYke52JtppUNVb18BdhNluiSFXFS4JzY6uBLXOOJL8bjdQXB3mLF2AvB2iGgQ=w2560-h1440-no)

More work on Regiment Boisseleau the last couple of evenings, getting there now with facings and cross belts done. Next several browns for hair, apostles, and shoes.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 September 2016, 10:40:07 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 08 September 2016, 04:28:34 AM
Ho, Yus !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 08 September 2016, 04:33:46 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

Looking very promising  :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 08 September 2016, 05:20:15 AM
Excellent work.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 08 September 2016, 06:04:03 AM
Top work. :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 September 2016, 06:37:09 AM
Thank you all.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 September 2016, 09:39:50 PM
Regiment Boisseleau

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VZpOqCFZ-weZbfS2LnCzTdeIaVddHa5N2g-t59tpvWazTz8edpasIJ9LdGAPmNkOdwd5m8hWJfU_Cg=w2560-h1440-no)

Getting there now, still a fair bit of hair to do, and I've remembered hat lace too.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 09 September 2016, 06:55:37 AM
Cor !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2016, 03:05:41 PM
Those are lovely.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 September 2016, 04:03:15 PM
Thanks. As I keep saying it's the sculpting on these that makes them look so good. It seems that they reward 'painting in the lines' as this brings out even more. For instantance the cartridges / apostles where given a brush over them which nicely picks out the raised up areas and leaves the rest in shadow. Looking at the size of these I can't even begin to think how they were sculpted.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 10 September 2016, 09:56:07 PM
Epic Game

We played Epic on Friday, for the first time in a few months, Tau trying to break out through Imperial Guard and Squats (the IG Squat alliance was mainly so I could field my newly painted Squats!)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U-LFHxDfdqMIoxapPFxFWIQjGW1_h3iLZmwF2LYMtCbi1lQtlquWT2WulpfC8DQOxCFmGPAUzN-cug=w2560-h1440-no)

Only took 1 photo  :(  must have been too much into the game for the rest of the evening.

This is pretty much at the start, I have missed all my troops out of the photo to the right. The Tau are in the middle (mainly white troops) and the IG at the far end of the table mainly in brown against the desert terrain!

It was a good game, it initially seemed the Tau were taking lots of casualties, but they swapped their breakout direction from against the Squats (to the right) to the opposite side (the palm trees at the top left) when they unexpectedly broke the IG heavy tanks on that side. We ended up running out of time, but it would have come down to the wire.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 11 September 2016, 05:42:37 AM
Again, looks great fun, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 11 September 2016, 09:56:48 AM
That looks good, but... I now want steak, as those two hills look just like steak!


Mmmmm fried tau steak...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 11 September 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 11 September 2016, 09:56:48 AM
That looks good, but... I now want steak, as those two hills look just like steak!

Someone before said they look like ham!


As I had played Epic, I had to have a rummage through the big box of epic stuff, to see what else was ready to go. And the first thing I found was 3 sticks of Squats, a unit of Berserkers and some armoured Warlords

Squat Berserkers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oAmp754S5gIQZM23QG0pjMuyyGQvgl9Sks8WG2Csdlj5eJbO9MCSJYH9naQC7wJKsWeMBxO6k4iT_w=w2560-h1440-no)

These guys paint up fast - only put the first coat of green on at 5pm today - and they are now pretty much done (and I have done lots of other real world stuff in that time too).


Also got the Regiment Boisseleau based up

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/425RpR1SKn2NwQjtQnt56C6-xa02qQd0S8R-TBFh-NRGSMwqBsaE3UTVap95NZxnzheyWhfyWDPk3Q=w2560-h1440-no)

Really liking how these chaps have come out.

I also did a Paul style count up of the LoA project

Total LoA Painted
Units
Commanders / Guns  - 0
Foot / Horse  - 4

Figures
Foot - 169
Horse -15
Guns - 0

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 September 2016, 10:54:14 PM
Those are brilliant Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 11 September 2016, 11:03:44 PM
Cracking!

Those are "eggs on legs" Heartguard in power armour aren't they? Somehow they look quite charmingly quaint in Epic scale :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 12 September 2016, 12:17:59 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 12 September 2016, 05:00:22 AM
Cracking stuff, Forbes ! =D> =D> =D>

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 September 2016, 06:44:01 AM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: toxicpixie on 11 September 2016, 11:03:44 PM
Those are "eggs on legs" Heartguard in power armour aren't they? Somehow they look quite charmingly quaint in Epic scale :)

I think the eggs on legs are the Warlords in power armour. The Hearthguard are the ones in the bronze armour on the left of the middle painting stick. From what I can work out from the photos on the epic army lists!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 12 September 2016, 08:20:20 AM
Ah yeah, they're Warlords in Exo-Armour aren't they? I think my memory for Squats has conflated all Exo-Armour into Hearthguard in Exo-Armour :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 12 September 2016, 12:59:00 PM
I really like the look of the LoA regiment!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 September 2016, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: DFlynSqrl on 12 September 2016, 12:59:00 PM
I really like the look of the LoA regiment!

Thanks!

Got some basing done last night, using wood filler, so left them to dry rather than taking photos last night.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AFyGinv9Trk0WyKKo3UOnC6vsUzOR7zsqPNfwdT3ycLYu7Valq_9UikS_DFroVQjI0zj7O0YMn8hjw=w2560-h1440-no)

Left to right we have Lizardmen Shaman, Epic Squat Berserkers, Epic Tyranid Gargoyles

The Lizardmen need a little bit of finishing off - I really like the statue model.
The Tyranid Gargoyles were painted ages ago, but for some reason they haven't got their bases done.

Might get some flock stuck on various ones tonight (including LoA figures).
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 14 September 2016, 09:04:50 PM
Terrific work, Forbes !  :-bd

Really like what you've done with the statue.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 September 2016, 09:23:25 PM
Thanks Phil, but thats down to your sculpting, I just did a brown wash over white, which has really picked the detail out nicely.

I do think that head would look great on a Dragon or some oriental monster (hint, hint).
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 September 2016, 09:58:32 PM
Regiment Boisseleau

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4i-VCzsV7nC4abExwnYgYU4zbMNzwpFbIXcMyhGlNkYDFw361X3__YBAMAnzantD3AV8X1pYoryC8g=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/B3HMJgsWcoIlqknYwpSpDV6El53EYxKXjU7gV6ABNHqaes9RoYydDj-SwzDauZM_Bw2DxZarfLm07w=w2560-h1440-no)

Got this unit finished (except flags, which are on order).

I'm pleased with how they have come together!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 15 September 2016, 02:49:36 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 September 2016, 06:02:34 AM
Those are super !  :-bd

Quote from: fred. on 14 September 2016, 09:23:25 PM
I do think that head would look great on a Dragon or some oriental monster (hint, hint).

Hmmmm.  :-\

I think I've said before, that the head was inspired by a right old mish-mash of different cultures.,,,But I suppose it does have an Oriental 'look' to it.  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 September 2016, 06:44:51 AM
Nice job! Must get a lizzy army at some point...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 15 September 2016, 01:26:55 PM
They look great!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 15 September 2016, 06:46:30 PM
Nice unit!!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 16 September 2016, 06:52:20 AM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: mad lemmey on 15 September 2016, 06:44:51 AM
Must get a lizzy army at some point...
Good idea! They are really nice figures, and quick to paint up too.


Bought some acrylic blast markers from Troll Trader on eBay at the weekend, and they arrived yesterday, and they are good

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DndkToKmKsw0HVewUaAP4nQDl8OvZBk2bhamcPlHHlXgbIiaw6ba6EmKrY4cDq8gAf3uyH7f5NRXMg=w2560-h1440-no)

Leon, you might want to look at stocking these they would be good for BKC / CWC / FWC games?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 September 2016, 08:00:19 PM
Reinforcements Arrive

Received a nice heavy box from Pendraken on Saturday morning

Lots of LoA
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wcZL6SyAlN0_ZpAL_F1p7sWO7uKqISRksrHwOzEJV8LsCA8RSZFskkQ_mwVouzA2iW9yjHABB1Rwjw=w2560-h1440-no)
From left to right, more infantry, commanders, dragoons, artillery, and on the right pikemen, and cuirassiers - and flags at the top (obviously)

And the new huge 30.5cm Austrian WWI Mortar
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KOhFqFo5bEfuqByGMKuK4CYfJjhIOY2dk5cuB1aashvD4Jms_2PbhIZho2isvk-juj65bpjxYTsGDA=w2560-h1440-no)
How many bits?!?! I'll have to have a good look at the assembled photos to see what goes where.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 25 September 2016, 08:27:43 PM
Good luck with the mortar!

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 25 September 2016, 08:59:37 PM
Someone won't be going out for a while.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 September 2016, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: Leman on 25 September 2016, 08:59:37 PM
Someone won't be going out for a while.

I wish.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 September 2016, 09:39:30 PM
30.5cm Mortar Firing AH17

Had a go at putting this together, using the photos on the website, seems to have gone together OK, on my first dry fit I had both the mount and the collar round the barrel the wrong way, so double check the photos to see that the angles are right.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IY22bZhkAXhK4f_G-c1ikrZ4bqJ0llbpamF8W9IiVUFqrWOjehF-s3t4B648S6OaAJHyfn-w_dJVcA=w2560-h1440-no)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rHTdNBRi3Xoq7L76oNmh5zzYNCs-azsCiAj003SC7h_vEjQV5XMMUsaSnLMwR5Brxzf3uIKoM5n4fQ=w2560-h1440-no)

Its certainly a big beasty, its on a 30mm square base in the photos, and I think I will need to use a 40x30mm one.

I still need to fit the standing plate on the near side - tried once and dropped it - so waiting for the glue to dry before trying again.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 25 September 2016, 09:40:56 PM
Looks like a heavy piece of kit!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 25 September 2016, 10:11:08 PM
Wow what a heavy beauty!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 September 2016, 10:32:22 PM
All look awesome!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 25 September 2016, 10:34:29 PM
 :o Huge
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 26 September 2016, 01:43:28 PM
All kinds of cool toys!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 September 2016, 08:05:42 PM
Yep  ;)

Good isn't it.

There is nothing quite like a Pendraken parcel.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 September 2016, 10:06:32 PM
Having a bit of trouble with the Austro-Daimler M12 tractor (AH18)

1) The foot rests at the back, I can't work out where these are supposed to go. Looking at the photo they go just below the seats, but I can't spot any locating holes. If this is the right spot, I can drill some holes.

2) The windscreen and back of the cab - are these meant to be asymmetric, with some extra of the top bar sticking out to one side? Or is this just a bit of feed that can be trimmed away. I've found Mart's original post and I think these are just bits of feed. http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,14352.msg204824.html#msg204824

But still not sure how to fix the foot boards (parts 8 and 9 in the link above)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 27 September 2016, 09:46:02 PM
Austro-Daimler M12 tractor (AH18)

Managed to get this together with a bit of help from Leon (Thanks, great customer service!). There are locating holes for the footrests under the bench seats, these are higher up than I was expecting, so I hadn't spotted them.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/V-iRsxM8xTTZPRIsPOaafsS1Jg7w6AhAh9MeuugzHtI8YZ3xmanXLuwVrPtrJPbgR2ONsoff7rhCfg=w2560-h1440-no)

And having spotted the gap in the exhaust join from the cab to the engine, I've now added a bit of plastic rod to close the gap.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 27 September 2016, 10:28:30 PM
Looks impressive now its built

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 28 September 2016, 05:29:12 AM
HaHa, WWI designs looks like a little bit Gorka Morka for me.

Nice ... tractor/truck? what was the military use of the Autro-Daimler M12?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 September 2016, 05:55:19 AM
It was an artillery tractor - for example to tow the huge mortar pictured above. The last set of bits are to build the mortar in its 3 towed loads!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 September 2016, 06:44:10 AM
Nice  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 September 2016, 09:30:08 PM
30.5cm Morser towed AH20

Got all the 3 parts of the disassembled towed mortar glued together

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BsniHzEGSyiXmfr6Wo82lR8EEjVrwSttmCDzPawiQuxgP2gELbDP8p26aOZitK4SOkrJk7Iwnnq6Dg=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p6wc1qfNi91UAUQ07B9Mc3jroYPqEaeRqrqLAgYKC-mHbQbZqaohwYc_Ne2MtX3Y0vBsWu9lMVvKQA=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aVsmd6SE5aa1ixm3W6SKf25e1ys6kUdhfgCCBg_Rva93Tsb5whPozXIFUUtiqmxE5PDRcMlsPVaZZA=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 September 2016, 09:34:24 PM
Holy funt! That is a long piece of kit!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 28 September 2016, 09:46:33 PM
Yep. Probably need a 40mm deep base for each of the 4 pieces. 
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 28 September 2016, 10:08:47 PM
That looks good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 28 September 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Those look great all lined up together.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 28 September 2016, 11:07:15 PM
Cool
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 29 September 2016, 08:29:34 AM
Fred! You, Sir, are a hero!

Now, how long does it need in a game for the mortar to be assembled and fired?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 29 September 2016, 03:22:27 PM
That's one cool looking kit!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 September 2016, 04:05:58 PM
It's very cool. Not sure it's very practical, either in the real world, or for gaming.

But one of the advantages of smaller scales is you can add some of these non-front line bits of kit just for fun.

The firing mortar may well make its way on to a GWSH battle field, I'm less sure that the towed version will.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 29 September 2016, 08:01:07 PM
Done a bit of research on the Skoda 30.5cm morser.

It took around 6 hours to setup. But apparently didn't need any heavy equipment to do this, just jacks and the like.  But even in a game like GW Spearhead, this would be at least 12 turns, which is a whole game.

Rate of fire was one shot every 4-5 mins.

German use in WWI was limited to the opening attacks on Belgium and French fortresses - which is a shame as I was hoping to add it to my late war German artillery park.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 September 2016, 09:22:39 PM
I'm considering getting one of the firing models to add to my WW2 German forces.

BKC stats as per the Naval Guns in the British NE Europe list.

I've a couple of scenarios in mind.

Besides, it's an impressive piece of ordnance!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 September 2016, 06:55:30 AM
Naval Gun stats look about right for BKC
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 05 October 2016, 09:41:57 PM
Jacobite Foot

Been working on these chaps for what seems like ages - irregular units always take much longer than uniformed ones

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tJU1itb2xQ_ckda9aknq14Jh4DP_FQp8iD8_NB0fPBBYEjwRF8TKr9kYg63d8jcfTf6SuoBriPBKbQ=w2560-h1440-no)

At the minute a generic Irish unit, with a low number of muskets, and no uniforms.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 05 October 2016, 10:37:06 PM
Very nice indeed. They do take longer but look better when finished

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 October 2016, 11:57:27 PM
Looking like a tasty military salad.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 06 October 2016, 01:14:54 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 06 October 2016, 05:20:57 AM
I like the colors chosen and the overal aspect. Well done
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 October 2016, 06:40:42 AM
Thanks chaps.

Seeing them photographed I'm a lot happier with them, than I was on Sunday when I last painted them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 06 October 2016, 07:42:23 AM
They look suitably irregular. Before reading the caption I thought they were some of Monmouth's chaps.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 06 October 2016, 10:09:17 AM
Very nice, indeed, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 October 2016, 11:12:55 AM
Quote from: Leman on 06 October 2016, 07:42:23 AM
They look suitably irregular. Before reading the caption I thought they were some of Monmouth's chaps.

I'm sure they may get used for this too.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: skywalker on 06 October 2016, 11:28:43 AM
Very good  =D> =D> :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 October 2016, 10:27:50 AM
Thanks, skywalker.


Mini Epic Game
In the proud spirit of tinkering with rules, we decided Epic Armageddon was just too complex and faffy for the sort of game we normally want to play. Cue much discussion of what we wanted, and more keenly what we didn't want. After a bit of searching I discovered Fubar 1 page rules, which had some good ideas and certainly strip things back! But in the end I ended up writing a set of rules in a couple of hours in the middle of the week running to about 3 pages - its hugely derivative from Epic and Fubar. A key thing we wanted was to use the Epic army lists, but simplified.

So we gave it a whirl last night - and it pretty much worked. We sorted out Aircraft - which have added a page of rules in themselves.

Any way some photos. Banana Marines vs Squats

Early game, left flank
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uYZAnfKaaI7sUmQML0JhbvS59pq62j7V6syjFQz11r-R2LBMBY4aNFYeUyiPj0V2_9JqCyiATIaKwA=w2560-h1440-no)
Marine bikes have switched from centre to the flank, Whirlwinds failed their order. Predators have copped it from Overlord airship shooting.

And right flank from the same time
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZcBMFKpp1Pa2_pSXohAONbLVcGE0hk42pg-rIgi-fKR6qWCUFn9WZnt0mJoE9RIApUcBiZCoKkUKlQ=w2560-h1440-no)
The Land Raiders have shot up the Iron Eagle Gyrocopters badly, the Tactical Marines have copped loads of fire from Artillery, their Rhinos have been shot up by my Guns, and my Warriors have moved up right next to them in the buildings.

The centre a bit later
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iruu7zUDNuSDT_WGigsxLrhmmx3_cEQ3vw-lG-1hO8jGX53Hrm9SVJ5ZCgujLJldwdNKE2xBADTNpw=w2560-h1440-no)
The Warhound Titan has advanced and tried to shoot up the Overlords, but with limited effect, like wise the land speeders attempted the same (both have Macro Weapons so should have been good at this, but had woeful dice rolls). The land speeders were then shot up by my large infantry formation. The remaining Predators have suffered too. My Iron Eagles failed to rally and are effectively out of the game.
Over on the right flank the marines were about to suffer badly at the hands of my Support Formation and Bikers guild.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 October 2016, 11:03:32 AM
Any chance of a copy ?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 October 2016, 11:32:53 AM
Yes. But in a week or two when we have ironed out a the last few bits.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 October 2016, 01:01:28 PM
Ta La
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 08 October 2016, 05:36:22 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 October 2016, 07:02:13 PM
Me too please!
Do Space Marine bikes usually go two to a base? Not got the rules...
Predators, anyone got a spare mk1?
No reason...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 October 2016, 07:16:52 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 October 2016, 07:02:13 PM
Me too please!
Do Space Marine bikes usually go two to a base? Not got the rules...
Predators, anyone got a spare mk1?
No reason...

If we're talking one of these

(http://thumbs4.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/262585974491_/Warhammer-40k-Epic-Space-Marine-Predator-Tanks-x2.jpg)

PM me a real world address and one of these will wing it's way to you!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 08 October 2016, 08:33:49 PM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 08 October 2016, 05:36:22 PM
Looking good


Thanks Jorge

Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 October 2016, 07:02:13 PM
Me too please!

Yep, no probs. I'll send out some PMs when I've pulled stuff together after a couple more plays.


Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 October 2016, 07:02:13 PM
Do Space Marine bikes usually go two to a base? Not got the rules...

The rules don't define the number of figures per base - often they are based on thin rectangular bases, often 3 across. I've gone with round bases for most of my vehicles, I prefer the look. My SM infantry was bought painted on rectangular bases, so I left them as is!

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 08 October 2016, 08:38:52 PM
I'd like a copy as well, ta.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 October 2016, 09:09:17 PM
Me three, if that's OK.

Several of us have Epic armies but none of us are really satisfied with the rules we've tried.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 08 October 2016, 09:53:44 PM
Coul stick 'em I. The free rules section if you're happy with that Fred? Sounds intriguing!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 09 October 2016, 08:29:41 AM
Thanks for the interest chaps. I'll get something shared fairly soon.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 October 2016, 09:31:36 PM
As I've been thinking about Epic rules, I had a rummage through my Epic figures, and sorted out some of the last odds and ends at the weekend. Got various troops based, and moved into the foam storage with the rest of the army (even if they aren't painted yet). Got a few others assembled and sprayed today. I'm now at the stage where all my Epic Tyranids and Marines are based up and all but a handful are painted. For my squats I have 3 infantry formations to spray and paint, then base up. But the rest of that army is built and sprayed. There is a fair bit to paint yet, but not loads. Basically cleared 3 layers of a really useful box into a single layer of odd bits and pieces, and got the rest into the army carry cases - where I can at least see it and be reminded that it needs painting!

Random progress on units from all 3 forces:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SysNp-RFsESFxASgwOUotVbQl4Ho19nu9kZdj26bUTZUZaPqhjV5tuUkCUquSPbsoPlaxIhEUpM3gg=w2560-h1440-no)

Marine Snipers, Squat Rapiers and Tyranid Carnifexes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 13 October 2016, 09:50:21 PM
Looking good fred

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 October 2016, 10:57:07 PM
Nice work Forbes.
What basing material do you use on 6mm?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 October 2016, 06:30:19 AM
Thanks chaps.

Basing wise - for the nids I've just used sand with dark brown paint, and a few tufts.

The squats use wood filler, highlighted quite a lot with a medium amount of flock. And I think something similar for the marines! But as most of my marine infantry already came based they are more of a mix.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 16 October 2016, 05:41:40 PM
Back to LoA

Had some time to add flags to the 5 regiments that I have painted and based:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sspVZaogjZDTOH_cA6Az7IrkSoLhyJmvAoK6LCCwAyiJudiBcNbGUVw36h_uclr4R_bGUZPUzi1gRw=w2560-h1440-no)
We have left to right, Tyrconnel's horse, Earl of Antrim's, King James' Guards, Dutch Garde to Voet, and Meloniere's regiment.
The Earl of Antrim's was intended to be Regiment Boisseleau - but I don't have flags for them :(

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OlZuRoVGHLgLfWu_jH5Wv_ENgRMwX_f-e8jsPjFdtaOX_zJPxONPUPNGQPorMrhGEXL_6p7b9XSphg=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QkEDRpHsh7zNUW8KSrU07mnhWy4WTQuNAroIcDLwKG_Vs58dEajIxLKkHkzdxbupZl_PgANia1C-7g=w2560-h1440-no)

Still need to colour the edges of a few flags, but wanted to get photos done while there was still some daylight.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 October 2016, 05:46:16 PM
Totally worth it.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 16 October 2016, 05:56:45 PM
Phwoar !!!  :-bd

Terrific, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: paulr on 16 October 2016, 06:47:42 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 16 October 2016, 06:50:28 PM
wow... hat off.. so neaty.

Good work
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 16 October 2016, 07:20:31 PM
Lovely - nice individually, SUPERB en mass!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 16 October 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Thanks chaps !!  8) :-[

Its great what a bit of sunlight does for the photos!

I'm very pleased with how these have come out. Need to get on with the next ones.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 16 October 2016, 09:51:54 PM
They look nice

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 16 October 2016, 10:20:17 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 11:18:14 PM
Oh, yes. :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 17 October 2016, 05:56:11 AM
Great stuff!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: d_Guy on 17 October 2016, 01:11:49 PM
Stunning!  =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 17 October 2016, 01:19:52 PM
Very colourful looking small chaps. Nice job.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leon on 17 October 2016, 08:34:06 PM
Those have come together a treat, really nice work.

8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 17 October 2016, 09:07:08 PM
Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 October 2016, 06:57:36 AM
Got the next regiment pretty much finished on the painting front last night, an Irish regiment without uniforms, and some what short of firearms too

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uLNA2X2D9Q0ifUKpjqJGzIdBnAUPAVrR-QXIF3NIkw30V1V0_IQC-bs3JX0G0rjhmL_5NUprC5XmYg=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 18 October 2016, 08:43:40 AM
Lovely, Forbes !! :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: kev1964 on 18 October 2016, 09:05:31 AM
That's a great looking army Fred, love the Irish regiment , great choice of colours.


kev
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 October 2016, 09:23:32 AM
Superb Forbes
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 October 2016, 11:32:33 AM
Thanks chaps. The Irish regiment is looking god now it's done it did feel like a lot of effort to mix and match different colours for jackets, facings and to a degree headgear.

Next up are some artillery and commanders - but I need to break them down into colour groups to make the painting a bit more practicalble.

But first my aim is to clear the bits and bobs of my painting desk; some Lizardmen mages, some squat support weapons, some space marines and a Minotaur standard bearer. All of which need very little work to finish.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 18 October 2016, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: fred. on 18 October 2016, 11:32:33 AM
But first my aim is to clear the bits and bobs of my painting desk; some Lizardmen mages, some squat support weapons, some space marines and a Minotaur standard bearer. All of which need very little work to finish.

That's quite the mix of stuff there!

Looking good with the Irish regiment!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 October 2016, 03:10:17 PM
Sounds like a bum note you was playin' dere, Sean....
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: d_Guy on 18 October 2016, 03:26:42 PM
The Irish regiment, bravo!  =D> =D>
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 18 October 2016, 04:50:09 PM
So good!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 October 2016, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: DFlynSqrl on 18 October 2016, 12:51:41 PM
That's quite the mix of stuff there!

Isn't it just! It seems to be bits from various projects that didn't get finished, and it would be good to get them out the way, so that I can move onto the next thing.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 18 October 2016, 09:37:31 PM
Tidying Up!

Got a bit of detailing on the Lizardmen Mages, and lots of basing done.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_FqFK9ayYdZWYwvqOaLzsXe19leV6vNEsPxhgwwsMuvZLTvWbdl42v5GlVy8bt9u1AAAiVCQ2II-5w=w2560-h1440-no)

Lizardmen mages, from the Warband pack. At the back Squat support weapons, Rapiers and Tarantulas (two designs). In front some Banana Marine Terminators and Scout snipers.

Also got the LoA Irish Regt based, but they are still drying.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 October 2016, 09:50:17 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 18 October 2016, 10:25:08 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 18 October 2016, 10:50:44 PM
More lizards, good.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 October 2016, 06:38:02 AM
Ta, all.

Quote from: jchaos79 on 18 October 2016, 10:50:44 PM
More lizards, good.

There will need to be a big jungle basing session soon, lots of lizards on plain bases at the minute.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 19 October 2016, 06:49:58 AM
Very nice, Forbes.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 October 2016, 08:31:46 PM
Mini Epic - Tyranids vs Marines

Game 2 of our new cut down epic rules - it went pretty well, and led to another major deletion of rules around the Fire Fights, mainly as the ability to FF many times in a turn seemed far too good. So FF has gone as a concept, you can have short range shooting in an Assault, using FF values. Or you can do short range shooting using FF values.

Anyway lots of photos

At the start of the game, the 'Nids are attacking out of some toxic cloud that gives them cover, the red Marines are trying to survive!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3lY_29eJ2O2ZkJxMFxjiEKr09YnAlXUNObpmd7ctktqe49q4mx1l7XF34M_UYSIOQUdoZlMBK6Mn4A=w2560-h1440-no)

The 'nids surge forward into cover
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HHc_rxeoJAzBeGAO4-A2IrkZXYZnkptlcEhVGOCKB__PBPpWtfCZEPs4Y5OZT40dGpoeSr5A600gGg=w2560-h1440-no)

The marines make use of their mobility to air-land and teleport in on the Nid's rear, breaking the Dactalyis artillery formation
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/si72ObePYISmXsAZznGqGCDlLNIO9VmCZoRRPAopLaxiVPeB66gkDSf64dLLcsxGDQs4N0llTIzOvw=w2560-h1440-no)

I kept plowing forwards, here a formation of assault marines has just been eaten, and the snipers are looking worried. In the centre the noose tightens
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UNdn_v7EZdwdRsonUF4skNkSM68O2VEPRTnUiQwXELkWwtva5-dnFAL6f8-srC18dPequfWV3a78iw=w2560-h1440-no)

End game - Trygon swarm has erupted from tunnels to the rear of the Marines, and eaten lots of them. In the buildings the large swarm has smashed many marines there too. In my rear the air landed troops have messed with my artillery support, but its taken them quite a lot of time to do this.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3JlHQ0G8hrGq1EWSSiIz7SG6QgP9B5DTvE0MlVYGq69Drku-kLrWg1MMZGVm9w9mWANJM_V_nZaxBA=w2560-h1440-no)

For those of you who asked about the rules the other week, I'll send out some PMs.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 20 October 2016, 06:25:53 AM
That looks great, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 October 2016, 09:32:10 AM
I like those huge rock towers!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 20 October 2016, 09:34:31 AM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: jchaos79 on 20 October 2016, 05:27:22 PM
Looking good game!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 20 October 2016, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 20 October 2016, 09:32:10 AM
I like those huge rock towers!

That are cool aren't they, There were a couple of even bigger ones at the edges of the table - but not my table I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 October 2016, 09:15:31 PM
More 6mm Sci Fi

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/snJkpRiAuvuYeCpzTJMqXiC1lrneLf-9958ku8AhGcTpZm1BXN3Qdf6hS8F5qHZm9ym3XXoS8RX_1g=w2560-h1440-no)

Space Marines vs Necrons. The Marines shot the Necrons to pieces, but didn't pay enough attention to the time limit of the game, so weren't really pushing to hold the objectives, but the Necrons through in the towel anyway!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 October 2016, 09:23:37 PM
Looking good.
How many points?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 22 October 2016, 09:35:11 PM
4k a side.

This one gives a better idea of the initial forces

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uw0RjRGnjvjr5M8jTtFBoRIRKTeWpXfXgasdjMPB2SVJ9gBpB10vF8v0Ozab-WXrcpWi5S8wIQYHHw=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 23 October 2016, 06:57:05 AM
 8)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 23 October 2016, 07:15:47 AM
Nice!!

Where is the trench line from?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 October 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Not sure Peter, I think it is an OOP GW Epic one.

The bigger bits on the flat bases are from the FoW fortifications set.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 23 October 2016, 07:50:37 AM
Ok thanks!

Think i found something similar for a good price though!

http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/120963563995?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/Wargames-scenery-6mm-scale-sci-fi-Trenches-and-gun-emplacements-Daemonscape-/121017797332?hash=item1c2d390ad4
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 October 2016, 08:22:43 AM
Good find, they also do a Military version which has the bunkers

http://www.daemonscape.com/contents/en-uk/d4_03.html
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 23 October 2016, 11:41:13 AM
Yeah they have some pretty stuff. And price is good when you buy in sets too!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 October 2016, 05:19:46 PM
It's a Flames of war trench
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 October 2016, 07:44:50 PM
Irish Jacobite Regiment

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/900YEyDh60XIuyfK7NHNV7Pq6Hn9TJckM7A7rOQpgxt3j-dus_U7oRM6mefR1NSzIMROHMA36bxrgQ=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4CxSkdRk4mKiPn7MI-mkrOtKHBRHNgqUHoijrMldFuP78eJ2xxE18AVJqAD3ORsWFeakD1_18dkX0A=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 23 October 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Epic Warhound Titans

Got these models finished this weekend - I had initially had a single one block painted in yellow.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nv0OoYsRFDGP0UC7-3gtuumg0m1ZY4yluG7s19H2GSLKdgF66tkocGKM-m3XuFdMeadRYwEjcnjahA=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/18JyhW7iKi1yttJ-dpCby0E09LnvDRFBfvepkciCumdSHgqL8d_Q0Bj460WwpP__VucJhTYbPR0y-w=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/m1HOC30fuvnZxts5DwKPm6nsV3MO1dhNmItrHvbtqw53SGb0vJtRqR0iYNQF7ZDTWQoGTGd7lJ1VjA=w2560-h1440-no)

A bit of edge highlighting and a wash seems to have finished them off nicely.

Also got these bits and pieces based up

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tdhk0pO-vr5PRsTfwNNcYB_Ww_DyAN1pHjHblNqA-skkQodLPD60ZBuJW5D_plve_IuNA7tnjM7UJA=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 October 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Great job, love the warhounds, Must get some scout...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 23 October 2016, 10:57:28 PM
They look brilliant

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 24 October 2016, 05:34:39 AM
Lovely stuff again, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 October 2016, 06:40:34 AM
Thanks chaps

The scout snipers are from DRM, very nice figures, more realistic than the somewhat cartoony GW ones.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 October 2016, 11:19:37 AM
DRM? I know this only as an abbreviation for Dice Roll Mechanism in board gaming circles. I presume it's also a figure manufacturer. URL?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2016, 11:20:14 AM
Yeah, same thought.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 October 2016, 11:39:38 AM
Dark Realm Miniatures
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2016, 11:49:05 AM
Awesome, thanks.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2016, 12:14:47 PM
Is there a U.K stockist? Either that, or anyone fancy sharing postage? Ignore that, found it...
http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/products
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 24 October 2016, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 October 2016, 12:14:47 PM
Is there a U.K stockist? Either that, or anyone fancy sharing postage? Ignore that, found it...
http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/products

They are in the UK, Will:

http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/index.php

;)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 24 October 2016, 12:17:59 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2016, 12:24:50 PM
And the only thing they don't have listed is the snipers!  :'(

Or they have, under another faction! http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/index.php?prod=92
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 24 October 2016, 01:46:13 PM
That's the. HI008 just checked my order email.

Slightly worrying how many emails the search for  sniper brought back.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: nikharwood on 24 October 2016, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: fred. on 24 October 2016, 01:46:13 PM

Slightly worrying how many emails the search for  sniper brought back.

;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 25 October 2016, 09:08:05 PM
Squat Biker's Guild

These were a quick overpaint of the original paint job, they came with from eBay, green uniforms, and some grey on the mudguards, gloves, and that was about it!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2E2vCIDuGEkVWFSb8MlvJpNB-c57vqhg4JE3c6vRWQ2ZtwEkg8QJomba2xYsH3nZ3slHO-8VgZpjMg=w2560-h1440-no)

Started work on the Land Train, going for a dazzle camouflage, grey, blue and a third colour. Not sure whether to go with the bright green of the uniforms, or something else, perhaps white?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 25 October 2016, 10:05:44 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 October 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Bikers I would add a thin wash, just to tone them down.
On the dazzle, bizarrely, a good third colour is yellow ochre!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 October 2016, 06:29:43 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 25 October 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Bikers I would add a thin wash, just to tone them down.
Absolutely!!

Quote from: mad lemmey on 25 October 2016, 10:38:45 PM
On the dazzle, bizarrely, a good third colour is yellow ochre!
Interesting idea... :-\
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 October 2016, 06:57:57 PM
Squat Land Train

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fTyaYgB3HiMtfMo4u-EkkPd9qO0lTzYpCzz_3xJC8CCSwMk3OrcR6YvH54lRqSIRENl5n_cmr3S37w=w2560-h1440-no)

Gone with one carriage with ML's suggestion of yellow ochre - does this work, or is he living up to his name?

It is a bit less bright yellow and more ochre in real life.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 October 2016, 08:23:48 PM
Okay, was thinking more finer areas of yellow/ochre!
Now add White splats over if all, then stonegrey dry brush to dirty it down, it will all be fine!
Off to look for an example of my work.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 October 2016, 08:30:23 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 October 2016, 08:23:48 PM
Okay, was thinking more finer areas of yellow/ochre!

It's 6mm, go bold or go home!

Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 October 2016, 08:23:48 PM
Now add White splats over if all, then stonegrey dry brush to dirty it down, it will all be fine!
Off to look for an example of my work.

Ummm.. pics of this would be good.

Well at worst I've got a second train
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 October 2016, 09:09:00 PM
Here you are on some Grymn (Hasslefree space dwarves) it would have been easier to go out and find them in the garage and photograph them from fresh.
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/136429400/nlal-grymn-pdf
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 October 2016, 09:22:05 PM
Yellow Ochre added to all carriages and the engine - the engine looks a bit like a duck now.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ImPKEnT4h3K8-zy3fSqT9f15_tqzVigsrN7h8mWmiH2IEvtpz7CTKYBRRhXZ6EPk6FjCw7lAPz6KrQ=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 26 October 2016, 09:26:08 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 October 2016, 09:09:00 PM
Here you are on some Grymn (Hasslefree space dwarves) it would have been easier to go out and find them in the garage and photograph them from fresh.


Thanks for the link - I'm not sure about that look - but might try the general light grey dry brush, it'll be similar to giving a dry brush of a dust colour to WWII tanks.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 October 2016, 11:05:42 PM
Actually, I really like it, apart from ducky at the front! Maybe a pair of eyes?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 27 October 2016, 06:47:20 AM
Eyes... hmmm, there are some nice round hatches available on the side of the turret.

I'm kind of liking the grey/blue/yellow bonkersness of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 October 2016, 07:55:39 AM
 :D
Sorry
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 30 October 2016, 08:51:46 PM
Played more mini epic on Friday, Squats (with newly painted land train) vs Space Marines

Early game - the Squats have advanced into the village, and have just repulsed the first Marine assault. On the far side the Squats are dominating the Objective, and some Terminators have just teleported in, and failed in their assault on some artillery - mainly due to some awful dice rolls!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t3oIXP3iLckjjd7Wp2t2eYgmEudoabPgUVkZNt1MD2zKipMwOxTu6x3M6ofQaIOZ443_1KmNZwnDUw=w2560-h1440-no)

Later on the far flank, the Marines have attacked in force. The Bikes, who were probably the Marine MVP have shot away the defending warriors, and Iron Eagle gyrocopters have retreated and the Tactical Marines have arrived in force. Suddenly this flank was looking a bit weak for me  =)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wa4P4HFtJU_o0roBTA6FHskyt4bFcsA1548jd-9BNBmn99Uxa8QQyBDhTQrotQHMuUGetEnEn347Fg=w2560-h1440-no)

Later, on the left flank, the Cyclops and Land Train have provided devastating fire, but are far too far from the objective
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/crAvnGv0x5ARfgiD40u3Ec8YQ576ImPn4c7vyEKaiHl3UdfBelviqst1Yva91UeZZY0f1qwkNW4hXg=w2560-h1440-no)
In the distance you might see the Moles that the Squat Berserkers tunnelled to the objective in. Unfortunately they arrived under the watchful gaze of a Devastator Company, who rather lived up to their name. Killing half the Squats in one volley. Ouch. So much for my assault on the second objective.

Another good, game, looked to be going to the Squats early on, swung to the Marines, and ended up a no-score draw, as I was able to shoot the Marines off both objectives, but couldn't get my troops to either of them.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 October 2016, 09:54:21 PM
Great looking report
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 31 October 2016, 05:41:58 AM
Nice stuff, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 31 October 2016, 09:39:33 PM
Thanks chaps.

Too much 1:1 scale painting this weekend, but did get to make some rocky outcrops

In the raw foam
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ktZepmUarxTHRUDMRy7AYP8_DzUaO2e3KJGzLgku0ORAGddNZtKC3-aGmEtuSekwEr0q9kD9SDmRig=w2560-h1440-no)

With some paint
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Vlu4cmBvG7eXjomu95i3IUnE-LuO-LmauYepISpTbAQ5wJDIF9lATsRiuTAGFSRdR3VDU5DngvnkSw=w2560-h1440-no)

Not quite sure what the next step is. I'd like these to be dual purpose for both desert and more temperate games. Thinking some tufts and a bit of flock on the bases. Don't know if the brown is still a bit dark?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 31 October 2016, 11:02:14 PM
They look fantastic fred

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 01 November 2016, 12:19:19 AM
They look cool Fred.

Maybe just some yellow (dry grass) tufts around the base?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 November 2016, 05:43:06 AM
Quote from: Matt J on 01 November 2016, 12:19:19 AM
They look cool Fred.
Maybe just some yellow (dry grass) tufts around the base?

+1....They don't look too dark, in the photo, Forbes. (For me, anyway.)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 November 2016, 07:41:33 AM
Thanks chaps, glad to know I'm on the right lines.

While looking for tufts last night, I found various small gravel, so have addd quite a bit of that.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BqQVQuYGYLpujgw8Z67bgDekhkfwRM8necy9qC7r_4oZ7KNe_fZZKCbAawjiO0z_nr9NMyN3C_8o7Q=w2560-h1440-no)

I think I still need a bit of flock on the edges, to break up the circular shape a bit.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 01 November 2016, 07:45:57 AM
How about a lone, gnarled, spindly tree clutching precariously to existence atop the rocky crag?

Looking good though.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 November 2016, 08:40:41 AM
Look brilliant, although my initial thought was what cds bit the dust?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 November 2016, 08:49:15 AM
Some Dell ones
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 01 November 2016, 09:57:27 AM
Looking damn fine, Forbes !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 01 November 2016, 10:10:33 AM
They look just fine as they are to me.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 November 2016, 06:33:35 PM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 01 November 2016, 10:17:06 PM
Got the rock areas finished tonight.  Added some pale flock around the edges, and stuck some felt on the bottoms. As the CDs are super shiney and slide around very easily (perhaps not helped by them having warped slightly)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nppKWvZFgXsbHLbwFUo0k3TTmeWi9E0QiIeq4H26DWqjpeJ6yf-3A8iFVDnF3mkh5eJ2lFrK_1FCFA=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Matt J on 01 November 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Yep, they look the dogs..  :-bd
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 November 2016, 02:24:26 AM
Quote from: fred. on 01 November 2016, 10:17:06 PM
Got the rock areas finished tonight.  Added some pale flock around the edges, and stuck some felt on the bottoms. As the CDs are super shiney and slide around very easily (perhaps not helped by them having warped slightly)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nppKWvZFgXsbHLbwFUo0k3TTmeWi9E0QiIeq4H26DWqjpeJ6yf-3A8iFVDnF3mkh5eJ2lFrK_1FCFA=w2560-h1440-no)

Let this be the fate of all rock music!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 02 November 2016, 05:50:32 AM
Look terrific, Forbes.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Bodvoc on 02 November 2016, 07:02:56 AM
Excellent terrian :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 November 2016, 07:38:15 AM
Thanks chaps. These are another project that I've been putting off for ages, then once I've sat down and got started its only taken a short time to get it finished. And will give some handy areas of impassable terrain.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Leman on 02 November 2016, 07:44:18 AM
Terrific looking rocky terrain. I remember the Dells. Their music was rubbish. Best use for their CDs.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 02 November 2016, 09:12:43 AM
Looks great!!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 02 November 2016, 10:30:49 PM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: Leman on 02 November 2016, 07:44:18 AM
I remember the Dells. Their music was rubbish. Best use for their CDs.

Their laptops are a bit ropey too...


Squat Bikers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_9PziWe4hMMoA47jHGhpUGRNTSZwv508b7YThzGBYUZPEd59dH78UMb-ACxEOS4VXoAhD5GkTxAr-A=w2560-h1440-no)
Got these chaps based up tonight.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Womble67 on 02 November 2016, 11:14:55 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 03 November 2016, 06:00:10 AM
+1  8)

Great stuff, again, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 November 2016, 07:36:34 AM
They look great now.  8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 03 November 2016, 10:44:23 AM
Fred, I am holding you personally responsible for the resurgence  of my painting. I had not picked up a brush for a few months and suddenly, the pictures of the GW Epic games and your rules has got me painting some Epic b & p that I have had for a good two decades -I picked up a cigar box full of the stuff for a Melvin and there was more than enough for a sizeable army.

Now outside of a brief foray of two games of Warhammer waaaaaay back in the day, I have avoided GW like the plague so the Epic army was never intended to be a 40K force of any type, I wanted to paint them up as an alien invasion force in either WW II or Modern period scenarios. At the time they were given a quick paint, drybrush and wash combo but that was it. Now I am putting various styles of camo on them to tart them up a bit. 

I've even ordered some of the Pendraken SciFi stuff!

As I said, all your fault...but many thanks.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 November 2016, 10:47:19 AM
Same here, The Emperor's Pointy Sticks are expecting reinforcements any moment now!  ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 03 November 2016, 11:09:25 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 03 November 2016, 10:44:23 AM
I picked up a cigar box full of the stuff for a Melvin and there was more than enough for a sizeable army.

What's a 'Melvin', Mick ?

Cheers - Mr Ignorant.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 03 November 2016, 11:53:33 AM
Slang for a £5 note as in Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes. My fault, I've used it for years and assumed it was common knowledge.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 November 2016, 12:06:22 PM
I knew that not, but I think given time I shall learn to accept my ignorance.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 03 November 2016, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 03 November 2016, 11:53:33 AM
Slang for a £5 note as in Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes. My fault, I've used it for years and assumed it was common knowledge.
MickS

Nope....Never heard that one before....Though it makes perfect sense, Mick.  :)
I'm of the age when 'a score' equated to £20......A 'pony' = £25.....And a 'Monkey' = £500.

A 'tenner' is fairly self explanatory.....as is a 'ton'. (I hope)

Common language ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 03 November 2016, 12:34:33 PM
Glad to help Mick!  ;)  :D


It's amazing how much Epic stuff people seem to have around. I missed it the first time round. But I assume it was pretty cheap to. It,  but then took quite a lot of work to get playable.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 03 November 2016, 12:41:17 PM
I suppose it's just as daft as generally using colours for note denominations, with a certain homage to English footballers who, if given the opportunity will immediate add the suffix 'ey' to anyone's name...apart from Rooney and I suppose Alli.

£5     Bluey
£10   Browney
£20   Purpley
£50   Reddy

Just me having a pre-lunch ramble.  :) :)

Time to move on methinks...

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 03 November 2016, 01:58:46 PM
Yep.....Back to the thread 'proper'.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 November 2016, 02:47:18 PM
We were talking about Dixie just a while ago; that was a Confederate tenner.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 06 November 2016, 07:52:49 PM
And back to gaming.

More mini epic on Friday

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ap9oXzUhyQ0NJlj3CSh2WInwjzvgMrLgsABdB-voofki0y9RwWbdDiC7nDL3k4fvC5zBDdeVXsFcjA=w2560-h1440-no)

Space Marines vs Tyranids. I played nids, against my own Marines! It felt like the game was going against me, for much of the game, just couldn't get to grips with the very speedy Marines. But I ended up 1-0 on objectives at the end of turn 4, so a marginal victory to me!!

A good game, and certainly goes a good pace, we easily got through 4 turns in 3 hours, including setup time.

Have anyone who I sent the rules to had chance to play the rules (or even just a play through)?

Today took eldest daughter to hurdles training in Stoke - which will recur over the next few months - so if anyone knows anything good to do for a couple of hours on a winter afternoon in Stoke, all suggestions will be gratefully received. Because while it was a good venue for running and jumping, it was less good as a spectator!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 November 2016, 03:57:21 PM
[quote author=fred.
Today took eldest daughter to hurdles training in Stoke - which will recur over the next few months - so if anyone knows anything good to do for a couple of hours on a winter afternoon in Stoke, all suggestions will be gratefully received. Because while it was a good venue for running and jumping, it was less good as a spectator!
[/quote]

How do you train hurdles, is your eldest daughter the trainer or what?

Just asking. :)

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 November 2016, 05:06:00 PM
No, she is the athlete. She is still a teenager, so focused on competing now. Basically they were in groups based on ages, as the hurdles are different heights and distances apart for each age group. Then they spent 2hrs running up the hall jumping (well hurdling, as jumping is bad technique) over hurdles, walking back and doing it again. And being corrected on stuff they are doing wrong. She is quite experienced now (at the ripe old age of 14) so this is focusing on perfecting technique, rather than on the basics of getting over the hurdle. Frankly seeing what you have to do with your legs to hurdle properly, I have no idea how she learnt to do it in the first place.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 November 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: fred. on 07 November 2016, 05:06:00 PM
No, she is the athlete. She is still a teenager, so focused on competing now. Basically they were in groups based on ages, as the hurdles are different heights and distances apart for each age group. Then they spent 2hrs running up the hall jumping (well hurdling, as jumping is bad technique) over hurdles, walking back and doing it again. And being corrected on stuff they are doing wrong. She is quite experienced now (at the ripe old age of 14) so this is focusing on perfecting technique, rather than on the basics of getting over the hurdle. Frankly seeing what you have to do with your legs to hurdle properly, I have no idea how she learnt to do it in the first place.

30,000 feet and plummeting like a paralysed falcon!



MickS 
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 07 November 2016, 07:37:19 PM
Ah. Were you making a joke around training a hurdle (an inanimate lump of metal) and I have gon off on proud father line about training for hurdles (the event).  :-[   :D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 07 November 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Got it at the first hurdle.  :) :)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 November 2016, 08:42:08 PM
Flight Stands & Magnets

Did a bit of repair work on the flight stands for me Epic stuff - quite a few had lost their magnets, and a few more needed making. Here are all the skimmers and aircraft - not all needed mending but I had them all out to make sure I had enough flight stands.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NYFmoKE1LVZHYmZ9kEMTPcPvd292N2fMp7LcbPcXlRWuJIGOUONn93iUsEQP0DCm3r6xb-HgiA0AEg=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 12 November 2016, 09:44:41 PM
Shows how out of touch I am, I didn't even know that there was flying stuff available for Epic. Have to look out of Fleabay for some.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 November 2016, 10:15:32 PM
Yep, proper aircraft (the two blue ones and the black one, on the left) and skimmers which are ground units which can 'fly' over terrain, the rest of these on the photo.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 November 2016, 10:26:26 PM
Anyone else hearing the 'Airwolf' theme in their heads!

How vital are flyers in epic?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 12 November 2016, 10:31:32 PM
Ride of the Valkyries for me!

Aircraft generally aren't essential. They can add an extra dimension to an army, and give you very good reach to attack enemy units, but there are AA defences. Some armies don't get any, and for others they can be very useful.

Skimmers are a component of most armies, and are just another unit, their in game role is to ignore terrain by going over it, and they tend to be quite fast too. They can vary from scouts to heavy tanks. In some armies (Tau or Necrons for example) almost all the units in the army are skimmers.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 November 2016, 10:34:48 PM
Cheers Forbes. The Emperors Pointy Sticks used them once, so they must be cannon! ;D
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 12 November 2016, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 November 2016, 10:26:26 PM
Anyone else hearing the 'Airwolf' theme in their heads!

Yep, me as well.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2016, 12:14:04 PM
Epic Objective Markers

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5QJ34piOhZPU8Pt73Z9sajnSBoF5IOQwYizUFZRVzFC-iMi7f0rB8Qk-FTDMTqKmz5QCULJsjLDxpA=w2560-h1440-no)
Did a quick paint of these last night, as they are becoming the most used item in Epic games!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 13 November 2016, 12:22:36 PM
Whatever they are......Love what you've done with them, Forbes.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: d_Guy on 13 November 2016, 12:56:04 PM
I'm with Techno. No clue what they are ( totems of the NW Pacific indigenous people meet an Art Deco power station?) but I like them! Great colour scheme!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Steve J on 13 November 2016, 01:27:30 PM
Great objective markers 8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 November 2016, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 13 November 2016, 12:56:04 PM
I'm with Techno. No clue what they are ( totems of the NW Pacific indigenous people meet an Art Deco power station?) but I like them! Great colour scheme!

"Wut we doin' here Sarge?"

"Guarding these, son"

"Wut the Frell are they Sarge?

"Smegged if I know son but if the brass want 'em guarded you'll guard 'em, y'hear me?"

"YES SERGEANT!"

:)

Agreed, these are very cool objective markers.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fsn on 13 November 2016, 02:06:39 PM
Lot's of 'em here in Runcorn.   :D

Our's are rusty though.  :(

Think it's rust. :-\

May be dried blood.   :o
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2016, 03:34:45 PM
I've no idea what they are either, they came out of a mate's bits box.

So this is very true!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 November 2016, 01:34:05 PM
"Wut we doin' here Sarge?"

"Guarding these, son"

"Wut the Frell are they Sarge?

"Smegged if I know son but if the brass want 'em guarded you'll guard 'em, y'hear me?"

"YES SERGEANT!"

:)

Agreed, these are very cool objective markers.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 November 2016, 05:01:59 PM
They are rather spiffing!   8)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 13 November 2016, 05:58:19 PM
I like 'em as well.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2016, 10:37:27 PM
Glad you all like the objective markers - they have come out very nicely with a pretty quick paint job - should have done it months ago!!

Tyranid Bio Titan

Speaking of painting stuff that should have been done months ago

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sZLx9QMvQC7eS7nbPBJFahOyhpeK8sIHZG-2F0ZvvKcghi-ngP7lEpJZ0_AiecoGegvLYIxjMW9rsA=w2560-h1440-no)

Got some more colours on this big beasty - mainly over painting brown base coat with pale sand, and getting some future white bits painted brown towards the front.

I'm not quite sure what to do with the back legs, and the under body. For most of my 'nids I've gone with white for boney armour plates, black for pointy weapon bits, and red for the fleshy interior bits. But as this one is so big it seems to have a second type of lighter armour - I don't really want to go white for this, but I'm not sure what colour to go with, perhaps a paler brown?
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2016, 10:51:12 PM
Replying to my own question  :o

Looking at my other stuff, I probably need more red!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6x9FEKS_qvC48r4PYqkD64zfOBX5eADBDPbJXcaNM7e88uWcvArgx818LQ4v9jpjimbCTRFUFpoJ2g=w2560-h1440-no)
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 14 November 2016, 02:48:01 AM
That's a spiffy looking horde you have there!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 14 November 2016, 05:00:39 AM
Definitely more red, Forbes !
DFS is right. That horde really looks spiffy.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 14 November 2016, 09:40:13 AM
I haven't the faintest idea of what that last lot are but they do look very nice.

Just had a look on fleabay for Epic flying stuff...silly money being asked. I've got one of those mole digging things and someone wants £98 for one. Hah!

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 November 2016, 09:21:27 PM
Thanks chaps - the horde has expended since that photo! Not too many of those are GW Epic, there might actually be more GW 28mm 40k figures in there than epic ones. Most of the infantry are from Onslaught, and there is a fair amount from DRM too. Even a few Pendraken!!

As to eBay prices for Epic - there are a few models that are rare that actually sell for lots, there are also lots of models that people would like to sell for lots but rarely do. I tend to have various saved searches, and keep watching them for stuff at sensible prices. Some stuff is so hard to get hold of that its much easier to buy 3rd party stuff.

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 14 November 2016, 10:30:41 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V0Vuz1vx4a8P2BjRAqi71TzxIVDpxEAOtn7mVoee5cJzM1EFepyxuVRpfaX9l6NM7QJ06BPUcK1qg=w2560-h1440-no)

Armoured parts painted pale sand, backs of legs and a few other bits dark red. White on shooty weapons to act as a base for green, and a few white highlights on the sand. Tided up the black bits.
Next add some grey highlights to the black, and the green on the weapons, then seem what else needs doing. There is so much surface area, it feels like I need to do a bit more than just block paint and wash.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 November 2016, 11:46:18 PM
Looking good Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 15 November 2016, 06:48:32 AM
Quote from: fred. on 14 November 2016, 10:30:41 PM
There is so much surface area, it feels like I need to do a bit more than just block paint and wash.
Quote from: fred. on 14 November 2016, 10:30:41 PM
White on shooty weapons to act as a base for green,
Wait until you've 'greened' the white areas, Forbes. That's going to make it look very different.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 15 November 2016, 06:54:56 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 14 November 2016, 09:40:13 AM
I haven't the faintest idea of what that last lot are but they do look very nice.

Just had a look on fleabay for Epic flying stuff...silly money being asked. I've got one of those mole digging things and someone wants £98 for one. Hah!

MickS

For what its worth, I sold a lot of the epic nids a while back. Mostly infantry and a few trygons. Also one big titan.got about 40£ for it. That's a reasonable price.don't believe any of that buy it now crap. The trade forum over at the tactical command forum has the more sensible prices going around. Maybe if nothing else was around you could go by the silly prices, but as said, there are toi many substitutes available to warrant those prices.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 November 2016, 07:46:48 AM
Thanks for the tip, I'll go look for that...
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 15 November 2016, 09:44:30 AM
And me.


#fred. Nice looking though it is, that multi-coloured behemoth you have posted a couple of pictures of...I am still trying to work out which way up it should be. I can make no sense of it at all.

Your sincerely, Totally Confused from Kent.

(I know, probably just me.)

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 November 2016, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 15 November 2016, 09:44:30 AM
And me.


#fred. Nice looking though it is, that multi-coloured behemoth you have posted a couple of pictures of...I am still trying to work out which way up it should be. I can make no sense of it at all.

Your sincerely, Totally Confused from Kent.

(I know, probably just me.)

MickS

It's a bit of a strange beasty  - not helped by the cluttered background and high contrast paint scheme.
In the top picture it is facing right, you can just see he head (brown) with big mandibles, under one of the gun arms.
The front legs are very tall and straight with overlapping white armoured plates. The back legs are more like dog's legs and painted red.

The tail curls back under neath as well, to complicate the overall shape.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 15 November 2016, 10:30:13 PM
Tyranid Hierodule Bio-Titan

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FpPorzmM0niwy4cNy977wrQi0fCZx_p8rxY1WUm_rfuDA49C4DgAQenUkcQE_3pPwNbs3LlNWEiO7Q=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4TQ6EgQ8VPotFlIRQhgVbOqN63FuYzcq6KYJll8eOhQ6zOzJRcvkhR7rRF5OBs6hqNR3XsM_gW3fUg=w2560-h1440-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CZpp4D7BQh3mUycPL9-Zd8wllcta_JJzmyJ3bysyYyS3VH9qMpu4un54v_LyYTYo69ziUYGR7LzBUQ=w2560-h1440-no)

Got a brown wash done on the bone armour this morning, and some detailing done this evenening, green on the guns, some grey highlights on the black. Getting there now. Might brighten up some of the red.
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 November 2016, 12:28:09 AM
Looks awesome
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 16 November 2016, 06:10:53 AM
Very nice indeed, Forbes.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 16 November 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Aha! Got the general gist of the thing now. Nice artwork. Agree about lightening up the red a notch and might I suggest a cream drybrush along the edges of the legs and other washed bits.

MickS
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 16 November 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Very cool.   :d
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 November 2016, 04:35:23 PM
Thanks chaps.

Quote from: Subedai on 16 November 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Aha! Got the general gist of the thing now. Nice artwork. Agree about lightening up the red a notch and might I suggest a cream drybrush along the edges of the legs and other washed bits.
Yep, good spot, the wash has pooled in a few places darkening things up a bit too much.

Played more mini epic last night. Squats vs Orks

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jjRHEf-VLSa1N7nl5s10rhG377pFLl4XV_c6mttXSkxBxdXKyZ3r8KPgwt4Ejcna23dGZ542c1wOOg=w2560-h1440-no)

This is mid-game, with the Orks pressing, but ultimately get shot up quite a lot by the Squats, ended with a big Squat victory (based on holding objectives and formations destroyed).
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: petercooman on 19 November 2016, 05:29:19 PM
Looks good!

The rocks look great on the table too!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Techno on 19 November 2016, 06:19:31 PM
Wot Peter sed.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: fred. on 19 November 2016, 06:35:02 PM
Thanks chaps.

The rocks worked well in game too. Blocking line of sight and movement. At one point the Ork Gargant was shuffling one way and the other around it!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 November 2016, 08:16:55 PM
Looking great Forbes!
Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: Subedai on 21 November 2016, 10:00:38 AM
Like the rocks and the hill....not too sure about the green and white alien vegetation at the bottom left though.

MickS
Title: mini epic
Post by: fred. on 04 December 2016, 09:22:13 PM
More mini epic

Played Squats vs Tyranids on Friday night - a very quick game, as the Squats (who had been winning quite a lot of games) couldn't get their gun line into order and were eaten in quick order by my fast slithering Tyranids.

Only one photo I'm afraid as the rest were too blurry to see anything.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aByiSLT_hh36MeZ-TrKBClneSVQxB66Cu7wnY1RXVio_nxbVjrpVKk90Wsk-Yawp44p6IE_eCzQMoA=w2560-h1440-no)

This is towards the end of the first turn. My two big attack formations plus a third smaller one, are all making good progress. The Squats have concentrated shooting on a couple of my more shooty formations and done them quite a lot of damage, but not enough to stop the wave of beasties.

At the start of turn 2, my tunnelling swarms would erupted around the big guns (and objectives) at the back of the board. The Squats threw the towel in at the end of turn 2, as most of their infantry and war engines were dead, or nearly dead. They had a few helicopters and the airships left, which would have been hard work for the 'nids, but they were too few to cause much damage.
Title: worked once
Post by: fred. on 04 December 2016, 09:23:10 PM
Changing the title worked!!!

well it worked the first time - in replying needed another title
Title: some more mini epic
Post by: fred. on 04 December 2016, 09:58:04 PM
Squats vs Tau

Continuing our 6mm Sci Fi obsession - we played an attack / defence game. The Squats are defending an airbase, against a surprise Tau attack. The 4 objectives were placed alternatively and the defenders had to be within 12" of the objectives. It turned out there were 2 central ones, then 2 wider ones in one half of the table - this allowed me to defend with the majority of my troops reasonably concentrated. In post game analysis we thought that the attacker should have spread his objectives more - he placed the first one pretty much in the centre of the table!

Early game
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KPULCd53MsSS01vg0AIJFYpZP0I30q4-F24aGUScJIUviuz6Ie3n7J8MiLn2BGlOmZWYR0aQMZhLAA=w2560-h1440-no)
The Tau deployed a couple of formations - then lost initiative. I was then able to shoot up one of them badly enough to destroy it and break another. I then ran out of targets so had to put most of my other formations on overwatch. The Tau aircraft then came in - mainly targeting my AA guns - this proved unnecessary as I don't think they managed to hit anything all night! They shot down one Overlord Airship. And airdropped a formation at the back of my deployment - which put some ineffectual fire into my largest formation of infantry.

A little later, looking the other way
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ITwiXtbt1S88cZFL7z7KqKhoiWIYxy3Cf1E_QG3guaLb4d76B7wzf37o5Nx8jX9c6pugSveIn8Gbw=w2560-h1440-no)
My mole mortars have fired on the air landed Tau, and caused a lot of blast markers, but few casualties. The Tau aircraft are in need of flight stands!!

A bit later again
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The Tau have switched their attack to my right - putting a lot of fire on to the Colossus (super heavy howitzer tank) - forcing its void shields down, causing a couple of wounds, and breaking it. But they couldn't finish it off. This turned out to be a bad thing! As the mole mortars put some hurt on the most forward Tau unit, killing the commander who had gone too far forward, then the Colossus rallied, and fired all its guns, missiles and more guns at the formations at the back right, and managed to break both of them.

My Bikers have zoomed round and finished off the air landed troops in the middle. In the middle on the Tau side, my Berskerkers have erupted out of their tunnelling moles, just behind the Tau battle suits. Unfortunately they fluffed their initiative roll at this point handing the initiative back to the Tau, but it was too late in their turn to do much damage to the Berserkers. The Berserkers then charged the power suited Tau the next turn - managing to bring one down, and breaking them.

On the left flank at the same time
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The Tau attempted to advance a couple of formations of skimmers -  and were shot to pieces by the Overlord airship, the Iron Eagle helicopters and the large blob of infantry. At this point the towel was thrown in.

Post game - the general thoughts were the Tau spread themselves too thinly - rather than concentrating their attack. Despite having loads of aircraft these did little damage. As the Squat player I was largely able to shoot what was in front of me. It didn't help that the Tau player wasn't particularly familiar with the troops - or was particularly awake!

Title: Re: Fred's 2016 Painting Diary
Post by: OldenBUA on 02 January 2017, 04:25:26 AM
Just to prove a point, nothing to see here, go visit the other thread.