QuoteFor what it's worth I think Leon's summary of the Gary Lineker situation above is, like Gary Lineker's original tweet, also 'spot on'.

Seconded except:
1. I hardly ever watch the BBC and never MOTD.
2. I don't look at social media much either except for Youtubes and facebooks wargaming related content
3. So as an outside observer and given rising problems of poverty and homelessness, earthquakes and wars - why is this even a news item?  What other stuff is being "buried" under this media manufactured story about media?

I think we should be told.      

Quote from: T13A on 13 March 2023, 09:32:54 AMFor what it's worth I think Leon's summary of the Gary Lineker situation above is, like Gary Lineker's original tweet, also 'spot on'.

Crawler! 

I take the "turbulent priest" view. If the BBC replace Lineker with someone who only talks about football, they can save a fortune and not have to put up with the "bad" publicity every now and again. The great British public will watch the kickie-ball whoever is presenting.

I mean, I'm not going to stop buying from Pendraken just because Leon has expressed an opinion not related to 10mm figures.   

It's all got rather silly.

Apparently MotD viewing figures were up 500K 

Wonder what the BBC will do when the highlights rights come up for tender again 

Quote from: Matt J on 13 March 2023, 12:53:29 PMApparently MotD viewing figures were up 500K 

Wonder what the BBC will do when the highlights rights come up for tender again 

Hopefully lose the bid - get it on Sky so I dona have to watch the tedious stuff.

QuoteCrawler! 

I know which side by bread is buttered!

Cheers Paul

Hi

QuoteApparently MotD viewing figures were up 500K 

Actually they are putting that down to the 'car crash syndrome' (i.e. people like to watch a car crash).

Cheers Paul

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 13 March 2023, 02:38:49 AMI am not a fan of team sports so don't have an axe to grind. However, if football is"kick ball" wouldn't rugby be hand ball?

No, because the foot is used to kick the ball out of hand and for scoring goals.  The game of Rugby Football has evolved since the 1820s but the use of the foot is still important.  Hand ball is a completely different game.

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 13 March 2023, 02:36:50 AMThis was the BBC response to a complaint about Andrew Neil's impartiality

A strawman argument.  Nobody has claimed that the BBC isn't hypocritical.  The BBC is a crock in so many ways.  But, I do seem to remember that Clarkson got fired for things he said, or did, none of which, as I remember, were political in nature, just objectionable.  The thing about Lineker I object to is his allusion to Nazi Germany, which is ludicrous.     

Clarkson's contract wasn't renewed because he thumped a colleague because he, Clarkson, arrived too late where they were staying to get something to eat. Nothing to do with his odious views.

Hats off to Lineker for saying what he did.

Quote from: John Cook on 13 March 2023, 03:23:48 PMA strawman argument.  Nobody has claimed that the BBC isn't hypocritical.  The BBC is a crock in so many ways.  But, I do seem to remember that Clarkson got fired for things he said, or did, none of which, as I remember, were political in nature, just objectionable.  The thing about Lineker I object to is his allusion to Nazi Germany, which is ludicrous.     

I would suggest that "Nobody has claimed that the BBC isn't hypocritical" is much closer to a straw man argument. However, I suspect on that, as an so many issues, we will have to agree to differ.

Rather than Lineker, I think there is much more of a case  for sacking Fiona Bruce after her defence of Johnson family domestic violence on the grounds of it being a  "one off".

Ahem,  I think this has more than drifted into politics. Something which we are not supposed to do on this forum.    

A very wise man once said

Quote13 May 2022, 18:50:51#21
I don't mind some politics as long as we keep things civil!

Didn't somebody once say that everything is political?  Be that as it may, BBC hypocrisy generally isn't an argument I've made.  It was raised by somebody else way back in the thread.  I haven't got an opinion on Bruce and I'm not familiar with what she said.  As for Clarkson, it was indeed, inter alia, what he did, as I said.  Assaulting a colleague was the final straw.  But these are all strawmen arguments and have nothing to do with Lineker whose allusion to Nazi Germany was just as odious, as it was innacurate.  There is so much wrong with the BBC that I could waste the rest of the evening on it, but this was about Lineker, a subject on which I'm done.

Quote from: Orcs on 13 March 2023, 06:33:24 PMAhem,  I think this has more than drifted into politics. Something which we are not supposed to do on this forum.     

True
We can't risk this thread being closed because then the dead will walk the earth

Quote from: T13A on 13 March 2023, 09:32:54 AMHi

For what it's worth I think Leon's summary of the Gary Lineker situation above is, like Gary Lineker's original tweet, also 'spot on'.

Cheers Paul

And I think the absolute opposite.. Academic though as I haven't had a BBC poll tax certificate for over 23 years now.