Look at photos of Brit or US armour and they are usually, (understandably!), festooned with 'extra armour' in the form of track links and wheels. Wouldn't some Sherman and Churchill track sections be lovely? Oh, Panzers and T34s as well...lol.    

Another company, whose name shall not be mentioned, is working on this as we speak, so PD had better hurry if they want to compete on this one 

I agree also, and I add the request for a schwimwagen !

Votes added!

Sherman road wheels would be very useful. Can make your own from right size Biro ink tubes...but can be a pain! Wish I could remember where I got racked Jerrycans...saw some resin ones on ebay but outbid by lots!

Hello HH

Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 27 September 2015, 10:40:25 PM
Wish I could remember where I got racked Jerrycans...saw some resin ones on ebay but outbid by lots!

Brengun in Czech Rep. makes fuel (Jerry) cans http://www.brengun.cz/e-shop/1-144-accessories-19?page=6 (about half way down) in German, US and Modern flavours. About 4.50 Eur. Or UK and US distributors as well.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 28 September 2015, 01:11:33 AM
Hello HH

Brengun in Czech Rep. makes fuel (Jerry) cans http://www.brengun.cz/e-shop/1-144-accessories-19?page=6 (about half way down) in German, US and Modern flavours. About 4.50 Eur. Or UK and US distributors as well.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Belated thanks, but have found what I was looking for on ebay. Actually plastic taken from Takara models.

The track add on armour all the Tanks Are going to have (already Planned) add on armoured versions and camouflaged versions as well 

It could look really good with the odd tank with extra protection, mixed in with some plain and camo'd tanks. Variety being the spice of life.

Just to make sure I HAVE got the right end of the stick.......

Applique armour is the name given to 'any old tat'.....(But presumably, something that actually helps, like spare tracks.) ....that's stuck/fixed to the exterior of a vehicle to give it a bit more protection ?

Cheers - Phil

I would use the term 'appliqué armour' to refer to stuff actually properly attached to the tank, usually metal plates welded or bolted on, in WWII

I'm not really sure what the proper name for some logs of sandbags is - improvised, or just plain hopeful!

I think applique has an element of design, rather than an improvised addition.

Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 22 March 2016, 04:48:15 PM

Bet this was really noisy when it drove about. No stealth Centurion, this!

Not my area at all - pretty much all I know is from watching "Fury" a dozen times (and don't know how accurate it is). Apparently the improvised armor fuses the AP round so it explodes BEFORE penetrating the actual armor?  If so I wonder if the chains would offer sufficient resistance to trigger the fuse?  The chains look pretty cool and far from improvised - is it possible they served some other purpose?

The chains will be to try to make RPGs and other shaped charge weapons denonate before they hit the armour, this will mean most of the jet that shaped charges use to create a hole will be dissipated before hitting the armour. Shaped charge weapons were just starting to appear in infantry anti-tank weapons at the end of WWII, bazookas panzerfausts, etc. Modern RPGs are very common, and some modern tank rounds use the shaped charge principle.

Old fashioned armour piercing shot, is really just a big slug of metal using speed and mass to punch a hole through the armour. Few carried an explosive charge as it wasn't needed, they made plenty of mess directly from the shot itself to and the effects of shrapnel / molten metal / etc from making a hole in the armour. I can't  really see how a few logs is going to do much to stop these - they may have some effect against shaped charges by creating a stand off effect.

Fred,
Thanks! If AP rounds at that time relied on kinetics I can see where there is some skepticism about the use of logs. I must have been thinking about naval big gun rounds. Any opinions about the accuracy of Fury ( the movie)?

I've not seen Fury - I'm not much into going to watch movies - I tend to catch them years later on TV.

But I suspect that like most movies the story and the visuals outweigh history and accuracy by a huge amount!

Some early, small AP shot had an explosive charge in it, but it was generally dropped.

I don't know too much about naval shells - but I wouldn't be surprised if they had an explosive charge inside - they are trying to make a mess of a much bigger volume than the inside of a tank!

Yeah, most WW2 improvised armour was designed to deal with infantry anti-tank weapons. The Germans had some success with bedsteads, apparently bedsprings detonate RPG rounds. So I'm guessing logs and the like would work just as well.

Fury was pretty good on the accuracy front. There was some scepticism expressed about the ending where a lone, disabled tank held off an entire German infantry company but given the Audie Murphy was decorated for holding off a similar sized force with the AAMG of a tank destroyer which he fired from the engine deck of the vehicle .... WHICH WAS ON FIRE AT THE TIME! .... I think the crew of Fury were slightly less effective.

On "Fury" IMHO, it was reasonably accurate in uniforms etc, but completely lacklustre in terms of acting and story. Why didn't these crack SS troops just rustle up a Panzerfaust and blow the bas... tank to bits? Achilles et al seemed to spend all there time hunkering inside which did seem to leave them open to close assault.

Quote from: fsn on 23 March 2016, 08:07:10 AM
Why didn't these crack SS troops just rustle up a Panzerfaust and blow the bas... tank to bits?

One man stood on the engine deck of a burning tank destroyer and hosed an attacking German force with MG fire. Why didn't someone just chuck a grenade and kill him? Because they didn't.

Why didn't the film Germans use a panzerfaust? Perhaps the were out of them? Perhaps everyone thought someone else was about to? Perhaps some fresh-out-of-training 17 year-old officer wanted them to save panzerfausts in case they met a more formidable armoured force? So many options.

For me "Fury" was a much better film than some treadheads would have me believe