I gave Fury 5 out of 10. It did lots of things really well and got lots of brownie points for accuracy. But as one who is very interested in command and control issues, I disliked its portrayal of the US Army of April 1945 as a shambling bunch of disorganized ****s. By that stage in the war it was an organization that was very good at its business with sound tactics, slick drills and competent people.

But my friend whose son is currently a US Army tank officer said the troops loved it.

Chris
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Ignorance is BLISS....

IanS

Watched it, was very meh about it. It was okay until the second half of the film.

Still prefer Band of Brothers when it comes to showing what war is like. I also recommend "Generation War" for the German side, but it's in German (subtitles required if you're like me )

Those bloody Germans. You'd think they'd produce everything in English these days. And what the hell is going on with Amelie being in French and Throne of Blood in Japanese , grrrr!!!

Mr Angry of Surbiton.

PS - despite (or indeed because of) the Japanese language I still very much enjoyed The Eternal Zero.

I enjoyed most of Fury, but as many have said some bits were very good and other bits were not so good.

I particularly liked the scenes inside the tanks which felt tense and claustrophobic.  There were also a couple of very subtle touches, like when the loader was preparing the HE rounds' fuses to detonate just after they hit the ground, and were ricocheting, in effect creating an airburst effect.  This was a real tank crew tactic and we see the loader changing the fuse setting at one point but unless you know what's happening it's easy to miss.

Then again the tiger leaving the nice safe cover of its hedge to engage the shermans at close quarters doesn't make sence either.

Quote from: Leman on 08 October 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Those bloody Germans. You'd think they'd produce everything in English these days. And what the hell is going on with Amelie being in French and Throne of Blood in Japanese , grrrr!!!

Mr Angry of Surbiton.

PS - despite (or indeed because of) the Japanese language I still very much enjoyed The Eternal Zero.

Eternal Zero was good, and it comes at a pretty interesting point in Japanese history, as Japan itself is having to question itself regarding the amending of the constitution, a right-wing vs left-wing identity crisis, and increased "Americanization". Though I personally feel that it's quite telling that the director is very right-leaning and/or has shady connections by the way the story forcibly ties itself with the Japanese underground (Yakuza / Uyoku) that in my opinion is a bit fictitious, other than giving lip service to those that funded the film. Not all nationalists in Japan are from the underground, and not all in the underground a true nationalists... there's a lot of rabid and uneducated flag-waving in that sector.

Quote from: Leman on 08 October 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Those bloody Germans. You'd think they'd produce everything in English these days. And what the hell is going on with Amelie being in French and Throne of Blood in Japanese , grrrr!!!

Mr Angry of Surbiton.

PS - despite (or indeed because of) the Japanese language I still very much enjoyed The Eternal Zero.

I couldn't believe A Very long engagement was in French as well. Disgraceful

Quote from: DanJ on 08 October 2015, 03:46:09 PM
I enjoyed most of Fury, but as many have said some bits were very good and other bits were not so good.

I particularly liked the scenes inside the tanks which felt tense and claustrophobic.  There were also a couple of very subtle touches, like when the loader was preparing the HE rounds' fuses to detonate just after they hit the ground, and were ricocheting, in effect creating an airburst effect.  This was a real tank crew tactic and we see the loader changing the fuse setting at one point but unless you know what's happening it's easy to miss.

Then again the tiger leaving the nice safe cover of its hedge to engage the shermans at close quarters doesn't make sence either.

That tactic could well have come from the WW II tankie veteran from somewhere around here who was flown over as a tank tactic consultant. There was local tv/newspaper item about the fellow and it surprised everybody when the old chap said that he had never heard of Brad Pitt.

Thickest bunch of SS in any war film. Er hello get the panzerfausts out.

Utter rubbish.

Jim

Quote from: Leman on 08 October 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Those bloody Germans. You'd think they'd produce everything in English these days. And what the hell is going on with Amelie being in French and Throne of Blood in Japanese , grrrr!!!

Mr Angry of Surbiton.

PS - despite (or indeed because of) the Japanese language I still very much enjoyed The Eternal Zero.

Every German I know, without exception, complains feelingly that English and American are always dubbed into German on their telly.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 09 October 2015, 01:50:17 AM
Every German I know, without exception, complains feelingly that English and American are always dubbed into German on their telly.

Thats probably because the better/ more popular  TV shows are produced in English speaking countries.as English is more widely spoken than German as they lost the war and only had a small empire.  So perhaps its more a case of sour grapes , or should that br sour Kraut

It's unmistakably a case of "You lose a lot in dubbed versions, and the Herrenvolk speak English as well as the English do much of the time, frequently better. We even remember to use apostrophes."

"Frequently better" usually means a ropey grasp of idiom.

Idiom is important. It's also used as a stalking horse for gibberish to get up close and start shooting at sense.

cf: You need your house painting. or I could care less.

NNS may be the salvation of the language.