http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00sxqkb
Rip roaring stuff :-bd
Well done the BBC for something original and well worth watching. Thought you were losing the plot when you axed Ripper Street
I missed the first one tonight, going to catch it on iPlayer instead.
Quote from: Nosher on 19 January 2014, 10:12:23 PM
Thought you were losing the plot when you axed Ripper Street.
I can't believe they dropped that, one of the best shows on TV recently.
Quote from: Nosher on 19 January 2014, 10:12:23 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00sxqkb
Rip roaring stuff :-bd
Yep - thoroughly enjoyed that 8)
Quote from: Nosher on 19 January 2014, 10:12:23 PM
Well done the BBC for something original and well worth watching. Thought you were losing the plot when you axed Ripper Street
Quote from: Leon on 19 January 2014, 10:23:44 PM
I can't believe they dropped that, one of the best shows on TV recently.
Couldn't agree more :(
Bit disappointed with it...Not sure about all the leather.Musketeers of Anarchy perhaps? As I mentioned elsewhere on another forum I have tendency to compare all Musketeer films and series with the Richard Lester.Scott McDonald Fraser ones which I have always loved
I liked it. Definitely swashed it's buckle!
I though the costume and set design was excellent. Shot in the Czech Republic in streets standing at the time the story is set iirc.
The Richard Lester version was trying too hard to be amusing for my taste.
I liked Porthos in this one, the actor reminds me of someone but I can't think who. I presume he's the son/ brother of somebody better known and when I find out who I'll no doubt go, "Oh! Of course!" :)
Too lazy to look him up right now on IMDB or similar.
Now, where has my copy of "En Garde" got to??!
It was a good first episode.
Banding together of the four, five if you count Constance, was strong and not contrived.
Good to see the bad characters fighting amongst themselves already.
Czech Republic is a bit too good for terrain inspiration.
It's amusing to go to costume dramas in Prague and note audience reactions when they're asked yet again to pretend that Karlovy Most in in Budapest or Vienna or London....
Visually very nice but I was rather disappointed with everything else. Will continue to watch with the family (who also thought it a bit 'flat') to see if it improves.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 20 January 2014, 03:45:56 AM
It's amusing to go to costume dramas in Prague and note audience reactions when they're asked yet again to pretend that Karlovy Most in in Budapest or Vienna or London....
They have to film in Prague these days because of the blue meth.
I enjoyed it.....Mrs T thought it was a bit boring. :o
Cheers - Phil.
It was okay if a little shallow.
I will watch the rest, if only for painting / modelling inspiration :)
At least it was aimed (I think) at adults rather than Merlin and Atlantis which are for teens.
I was amused that everyone seemed able to fire a gun without a care about the weather! Also the m,ock execution bit - surely there would have been a flash even if the piece hadn't gone off?
Interested enough to watch episode 2, but that Constance ain't no Raquel Welch.
Quote from: fsn on 20 January 2014, 08:45:23 AM
At least it was aimed (I think) at adults rather than Merlin and Atlantis which are for teens.
Yeah...wasn't quite enough of either was it?
Wasn't a Merlin nor a Thrones.
BBC could have been a little braver; given it a nastier edge ;)
QuoteAlso the m,ock execution bit - surely there would have been a flash even if the piece hadn't gone off?
That's what I thought as he put the powder etc in but not the 'bullet'!
Haven't actually seen it yet but having seen the trailer they seem to have overdosed on leather. And as for the (c)rap on the trailer - go forth and multiply! >:( >:( >:(
It's worth watching.
IanS
Silly and shallow with a plot like a string vest but hugely entertaining!
It's completely different to normal Sunday evening fair and a great antidote to 'Call the Midwife'
Lookout for Musketeer themed games at future shows.
Makes a massive change from the usual dross pumped out at weekends i.e. Strictly, X Fuckter, Bake off, I'm a non-entity get me out of here, eastenders/corrie/emmerdale, lottery-schmottery, take me out (with a twelve bore), MOTD, etc etc etc
On my part I think it suffered as a result of me having seen several film and tv versions, so I 'knew' what was going to happen. Also the OTT leather 'uniforms' of our heroes didn't help things.
Well, you've gotta love the fact it's got Dr Who in it doing the Scottish Cardinal.
Ever read the book, 2 pages to describe a yellow horse, which D'Artagnen sell by the end of the chapter!!! 8-} ~X( X_X
Quote from: Nosher on 20 January 2014, 03:44:48 PM
Makes a massive change from the usual dross pumped out at weekends i.e. Strictly, X Fuckter, Bake off, I'm a non-entity get me out of here, eastenders/corrie/emmerdale, lottery-schmottery, take me out (with a twelve bore), MOTD, etc etc etc
;D ;D ;D
Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels that way about weekend TV.
Recorded it and will probably watch it tonight.
We had a fun Musketeers game at the club some time back. Not in 10mm though I'm afraid.
https://sites.google.com/site/tringwargames/batreps/musketeers (https://sites.google.com/site/tringwargames/batreps/musketeers)
There used to be a great game called 'Breakfast at the Bastion' which did the rounds at the shows in the late 90's. You had cue cards which described the process of firing a musket, which had to be put in order and thrown on the table as you shouted 'Bang!' Only trouble was the 3 referees barking orders at you, and the crackers you had to stuff into your gob constantly!
I remember that! Played with a bunch of sealed Knot guys, who knew how to load a musket, and I ate the crackers!
Liked it except for the leather. The sets seemed grittier than in the Lester films. Constance looks a bit old for D'Artagnan. Presumably Dr.Who is screwing with French history before moving on to mess with the Daleks again.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 January 2014, 07:53:01 PM
I remember that! Played with a bunch of sealed Knot guys, who knew how to load a musket, and I ate the crackers!
:D
I think Pete at Baccus has still got it in storage somewhere, they had to take it off the circuit when the Health & Safety brigade complained about the crackers I think... =)
QuoteEver read the book, 2 pages to describe a yellow horse, which D'Artagnen sell by the end of the chapter!!!
Yes, it's a good loooong holiday read, I think it's because like Dickens many of Dumas's works came out as serials, so he wanted to string the story out for as long as possible. The Count of Monte Cristo is the same, what we see in films and on the Telly is just the core story with a nice ending, the actual book is about three times as long and the ending is not what you'd expect.
Incidentally have you read 'The Black Count' by Tom Reiss? It's the story of Dumas's father who was half afro-carribean (to be PC) and rose from Wests Indian slave to general in the revoluionary army :o but fell fould of a certain N. Bonaparte.
Quote from: Nosher on 20 January 2014, 03:44:48 PM
Makes a massive change from the usual dross pumped out at weekends i.e. Strictly, X Fuckter, Bake off, I'm a non-entity get me out of here, eastenders/corrie/emmerdale, lottery-schmottery, take me out (with a twelve bore), MOTD, etc etc etc
Hear, hear..... =D> =D> =D>
But don't you find, that on
some nights there are quite a few things you'd like to watch.....and they all bloody clash.....And the next night (or more) there's absolutely 'bog all'. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Cheers - Phil.
Quotesome nights there are quite a few things you'd like to watch.....and they all bloody clash.....And the next night (or more) there's absolutely 'bog all'.
Ain't that the truth! Thank God for our Tivo box which has over come a lot of this, or i player whilst at work.
Most of the time I'm watching shows on "catch-up" anyway.
Also, anyoone else find themselves thinking "My name is Inigo Montaya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!" when D'Artagnan was fighting his father's killer?
Just me then? Ho-hum :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 21 January 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Most of the time I'm watching shows on "catch-up" anyway.
Also, anyoone else find themselves thinking "My name is Inigo Montaya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!" when D'Artagnan was fighting his father's killer?
Just me then? Ho-hum :)
Princess Bride: love that film :-[
Quote from: get2grips on 21 January 2014, 01:00:05 PM
Princess Bride: love that film :-[
A film with Inigo Montoya AND Dread Pirate Roberts as characters and Columbo as narrator ... what's not to like!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 21 January 2014, 01:23:21 PM
A film with Inigo Montoya AND Dread Pirate Roberts as characters and Columbo as narrator ... what's not to like!
Seriously, are you forgetting something? ;)
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Quote from: nikharwood on 21 January 2014, 04:15:45 PM
Seriously, are you forgetting something? ;)
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At least he's consistent ;D
One track mind???
Quote from: get2grips on 21 January 2014, 05:26:55 PM
At least he's consistent ;D
One track mind???
Nah. I also like redheads. And brunettes.
Oh - and war gaming, beer and decent whisky. And whiskey. :d
Quote from: nikharwood on 21 January 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Nah. I also like redheads. And brunettes.
Oh - and war gaming, beer and decent whisky. And whiskey. :d
With honey :-& :-& :-&
Quote from: get2grips on 21 January 2014, 08:39:09 PM
With honey :-& :-& :-&
I'm actually quite liking it now...as a mixer :)
Isnt that just Drambuie?
More like Glayva I would have thought :-\
Quote from: Fenton on 21 January 2014, 09:10:39 PM
Isnt that just Drambuie?
Quote from: get2grips on 21 January 2014, 09:12:30 PM
More like Glayva I would have thought :-\
Nah - it's different because the base of the liqueur is bourbon. More akin to SoCo - but not as sweet...
Quote from: nikharwood on 21 January 2014, 09:32:48 PM
Nah - it's different because the base of the liqueur is bourbon. More akin to SoCo - but not as sweet...
Good sell :-bd
Just watched it (with a bit of trepidation). Not bad - liked the grime factor, the wonderfully
inspiring scenery and the subtle comedy (which seemed a tip of the hat to Lester's version
but more natural).
Bad points - strange leather get-ups and stilted dialogue.
Defintely watching next week if only for the fantastic scenics.
Phil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY)
Now that's a better evocation of the C17.
Quote from: fsn on 23 January 2014, 09:05:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY)
Now that's a better evocation of the C17.
;D ;D ;D
That is funny; what's it from?
I think from "A little bit of Fry and Laurie".
A few familiar faces in there, I think.
Finally saw it last night, jolly good riproaring fun. Who cares about the original, I liked it!
And the totty was good too, something for everyone, almost. <3
was not impressed, will watch next one to see if I change my mind
Like I said earlier...I did enjoy it.
Not SO much that I'll feel I might be missing out if I don't see 'part 2'.....But more than enough, to give it a second look.
Talking of 'part 2s'......Anyone seen the second Hobbit film yet ?
Any good ?
Cheers - Phil.
Its sitting on my hard drive waiting to watch this weekend
Quote from: Techno on 24 January 2014, 05:23:48 PM
Talking of 'part 2s'......Anyone seen the second Hobbit film yet ?
Any good ?
Saw it back at Christmas and liked it a lot.
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Tolkien fan (have read LotR three times end-to-end and dipped in to favourite bits too often to count) and I thought they'd done well adapting the story for a mass market audience without losing too much of the original.
What's not to like? It has dwarves and elves and goblins and spiders, a dragon and ...
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Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 January 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Saw it back at Christmas and liked it a lot.
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Tolkien fan (have read LotR three times end-to-end and dipped in to favourite bits too often to count) and I thought they'd done well adapting the story for a mass market audience without losing too much of the original.
What's not to like? It has dwarves and elves and goblins and spiders, a dragon and ...
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwNDUzNjg4MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMjAyMzgwMDE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg)
Also saw it back at Christmas, and am also a died in the wool Tolkienophile. Loved the LTR trilogy, particularly the extended versions, and thought Hobbit 1 was a hoot, great fun, with a lot of "soul". You can all sense a "but" coming along in a second, can't you? Well, you are right. I was very disappointed. I didn't hate it, it just didn't do anything for me. Most of the dwarfs, whose character development took so much well spent time in H1, we're forgotten about to trudge along as mindless extras. Big plot changes, which might have worked (the molten gold statue) were lost for want of thirty seconds exposition. Lake town looked like a bigature made by me, rather than the guys who created Helm's Deep and Minas Morgul in LTR. And Steven Fry, who I usually love, was a dreadful parody of his own character, which is pretty much a parody itself. In the end I was bored. The one thing I did hate, was the 3D - my eyes hurt, and the only thing in this extravaganza which seemed to "pop" was a butterfly, for all love! I hope Big PJ gets back to form for H3, there is still a lot to cover.
Mollinary MISTIA
Good film...bit swashbuckle BUT...
Really didn't need the last 45 minutes.
I am the complete, COMPLETE, COMPLETE Tolkein obsessive and love all the extra bits. You could make the film 79 hours long and I would but the extended version!!!
The last 45 minutes didn't add anything. Still a good (not a great) film.
Enjoy ;)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 January 2014, 05:56:01 PM
What's not to like? It has dwarves and elves and goblins and spiders, a dragon and ...
When I look at this now I don't see the picture of Tauriel that was there earlier when I posted it - link still shows if you quote it though.
Is it showing for others?
Every time I think I've got to grips with the picture viewing software on this forum .... I haven't!! =)
Don't ask me 'I'...
Yes, you're right....Quote your post above and some image 'blurb' shows .....But even simply previewing it, in a reply, makes it disappear.
Cheers - Phil
Wondered what the link was!
I realise she's a movie invention not in the book but if you're going to add eye candy/ love interest Evangeline Lilly is a pretty good choice :)
Hopefully picture will show this time since it's done as an attachment.
I agree with Mollinary, the last 45 minutes of the film was merely a sop to the action junkies. It seems no modern film can end now without the director attempting to outdo his rivals in barely believable derring-do. It would be nice if, for once, the characters relied on brain rather than bicep.
I do disagree on one point, I found laketown exactly how I imagined it to be, although I also felt Stephen Fry to be grossly miscast.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 25 January 2014, 11:30:46 AM
I do disagree on one point, I found laketown exactly how I imagined it to be, although I also felt Stephen Fry to be grossly miscast.
Agree completely :)
I'll wait for it to come out at Tesco's in the bargain bin then ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Finally saw the first episode of "Musketeers". Not as a bad as I feared. Louis XIII appears to have had a firearm that required no reloading, if the pigeon shooting sequence is to be believed. :-\
Quote from: Hertsblue on 26 January 2014, 12:16:01 PM
Finally saw the first episode of "Musketeers". Not as a bad as I feared. Louis XIII appears to have had a firearm that required no reloading, if the pigeon shooting sequence is to be believed. :-\
Surely Loius wouldn't reload his own guns, he'd have a flunky reloading and another passing him loaded guns and taking the ones just fired. Just happens out of shot. Honest. Probably. :)
Next time... Episode 3: The King makes an Airfix ship model.
Looks like he does quite a decent job !
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: WeeWars on 26 January 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Next time... Episode 3: The King makes an Airfix ship model.
Not just me then who was imagining that on the battlefield??? :)
No spoilers, Please! >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: Hertsblue on 27 January 2014, 08:17:51 AM
No spoilers, Please! >:( >:( >:(
Hardly...just little clip they show at the end :)
I just watched this on i-player whilst polishing my helmet at work (no jokes please, we're British) and way better than the first episode. On the strength of this will watch again next Sunday. However I don't like the D'Artagnan character compared to the other Musketeers :(.
At least you wern't bashing your bishop....
I've been really quite enjoying it. Note sure about the leather biker jackets, but the rest is loads of fun. And hey, musketeers who shoot things. What a novel approach!
I also liked the fact that even though we know the Cardinal is the ultimate bad guy, in that second episode he wasn't such a 'bad guy'.
As for the women folk, I think Constance is lovely without being too Hollywood and the queen is kind of cute, but they really dropped the ball with Milady. She should be really seductive but instead she just looks a bit cruel and angry all the time. Even when trying to be seductive.
I'll be watching episode 3 with interest.
Quote from: irregularwars on 28 January 2014, 02:30:41 PM
I've been really quite enjoying it: hey, musketeers who shoot things. What a novel approach!
they really dropped the ball with Milady. She should be really seductive but instead she just looks a bit cruel and angry all the time. Even when trying to be seductive.
Agreed...Musketeers who use...erm...Muskets! (someone's gonna tell me it's an arquebus anytime soon).
Yeah, Milady doesn't do it for me but then: beauty, eye of beholder and all that :-\
QuoteAgreed...Musketeers who use...erm...Muskets! (someone's gonna tell me it's an arquebus anytime soon).
I think, and I'm probably wrong and will be have to be corrected and chastised for my ignorance, that the musket was much bigger and heavier than the arquebus and required a rest. I think theywere supposed to be more accurate than the arquebus but this was probably a relative improvement.
However I'm more impressed by the pistols than the muskets, all decent, big, heavy wheel lock beasties often used as a club once they've been fired.
I really enjoyed episode two, nice to see the leathers being hidden by the traditional light blue cloaks.
I thought it was a 'goody' too ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
I'm just a bit disappointed with the females. Milady just ain't sexy enough and Constance is ... well a bit boring.
Capaldi's Archhbish is quite nuanced. You feel that beneath the overt barsteward is someone who has a genuine desire to serve France.
There's a bit of fussyness going on here that I'm a little concerned about X_X
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
Quote from: Nosher on 28 January 2014, 07:56:05 PM
There's a bit of fussyness going on here that I'm a little concerned about X_X
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
Well said, Nosher mate, well said :)
And, if the standards are low, lower your standards ;) :d
Quote from: Nosher on 28 January 2014, 07:56:05 PM
There's a bit of fussyness going on here that I'm a little concerned about X_X
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
:D
Quote from: Nosher on 28 January 2014, 07:56:05 PM
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
I think fsn would....If he'd taken his pills in the wrong order.... AGAIN. X_X
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Nosher on 28 January 2014, 07:56:05 PM
There's a bit of fussyness going on here that I'm a little concerned about X_X
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
Sadly the best-looking one of all got killed off in the first episode. :'(
Quote from: Hertsblue on 29 January 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Sadly the best-looking one of all got killed off in the first episode. :'(
That's a fair point, Ray :(
Quote from: Nosher on 28 January 2014, 07:56:05 PM
There's a bit of fussyness going on here that I'm a little concerned about X_X
I may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our forum members... ;D
WARNING - Nosher we have quite a few female members of this forum so I think you need to edit this to
" may have low standards (and fail to achieve them) but I wouldnt climb over any of the female characters to get to any of our MALE forum members"
Or you might be in trouble if one of the said ladies recognises you at a show! :)
Quote from: Hertsblue on 29 January 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Sadly the best-looking one of all got killed off in the first episode. :'(
Yep your right there Ray. Perhaps they will intoduce some better Totty in later episodes
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Get back on your motorbike ;)
Having looked up both Constance and Milady on IMDB I have to advise you FSN that they are quite nice Totty - Not Low standard at all.
I my defence I'm not saying that the actresses themselves are not attractive ladies. What I was saying is that the characters were a bit insipid. Milady is quite unconvincing as a femme fatale, but perhaps Constance just needs warming up.
I mean, compare them to Faye Dunaway and Raquel Welch in the 70's romps; Lana Turner and June Allyson in the Gene Kelly spectacular; even Milla Jovovich and Gabriella Wilde in the 2011 ... effort.
(http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gabriella-wilde.jpg)
That's a good girl ...
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... and that's a bad girl!
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... and that's a good girl that wants to go bad.
Quote from: fsn on 30 January 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Ibut perhaps Constance just needs warming up.
Well I would like to volunteer to "warm Constance up" :d
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;D ;D ;D
Full of Fat Guys.... ;)
Quote from: Nosher on 30 January 2014, 10:06:22 PM
Full of Fat Guys.... ;)
I'm not fat >:(
I'm receding :D
I'm in shape!
Round is a shape, right?
I am slowly expanding to my full potential
Quote from: WeeWars on 30 January 2014, 09:58:03 PM
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Nicely done, sir, nicely done ;D
There is nothing even remotely attractive about a hall full of 'male enthusiasts' whatever the enthusiasm... learn to live with your geekiness. Babes dont find us irresistable hence we have a totty thread ;D
Which is sadder than you'll ever know. :)
X_X X_X X_X ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: WeeWars on 30 January 2014, 12:09:38 PM
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I concur. :-[
=O =O =O =O =O
Nice to see the King's part-work ship is coming along nicely.
Oh I forgot about it...was watching the hobbit
OK
1. Its good to see something a bit different at least.
2. Its exceptionally disappointing, given the absolute wealth of English history and literature that we get a series set in The France.
3. Everyone in it is very pretty and well manicured...The Hollyoaks-eteers.
4. Why do these Musketeers, never actually use a musket?
5. I cannot watch it without this as a constant refrain rattling around the back of my head...
6. The wife loves it so i'm forced to watch it by default.
Quote from: fsn on 02 February 2014, 09:43:58 PM
Nice to see the King's part-work ship is coming along nicely.
He's be one of the few people that could afford it !
Sheesh !!......Unless we
completely misread the small print on the tele the other night !!
Cheers - Phil.
I'm sure I've seen one of those musketeers use a musket. And why so down on France? It's our nearest continental neighbour, the scenery is beautiful, the food is amazing, there's more sunshine, it has a fantastic history and it's had the good sense to have a revolution and get rid of the type of bastards who are running(ruining) this country. La France, je t'aime!
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 03 February 2014, 01:09:10 PM
I'm sure I've seen one of those musketeers use a musket. And why so down on France? It's our nearest continental neighbour, the scenery is beautiful, the food is amazing, there's more sunshine, it has a fantastic history and it's had the good sense to have a revolution and get rid of the type of bastards who are running(ruining) this country. La France, je t'aime!
:-bd :-bd
Why don't the Musketeers use muskets? Dunno. Presumably the same reason most dragoons don't actually use a dragon no fusileers a fusil and grenadiers aren't the only ones using grenades?
France? Why not, after all we were allies for 300 years.
As to the difference between those at the top in a Kingdom or a Republic - you couldn't slide a sheet of A4 between the two :)
The France is the old enemy, and their accomplishments vastly overrated when compared to England. Our scenery is better, our food is better, the weather issue is somewhat mythical (Bordeaux gets more rain than Edinburgh), our history is better, we have had more revolutions. However, that's not my point.
My point is we have a vast repository of literary and historical stories to draw upon; why draw on traditions from other nations?
Why not a series about the Diggers or the Levellers? Why not a series set during the ECW? When are they going to make the epic series about Stephen and Matilda and The Anarchy? Or the Wars of the Roses? Or the Peasant's Revolt? A dramatic series about Wilberforce, Alfred the Great, Nigh Bevan, Boudicca, Francis Drake?!
Why are we continually looking to other countries for the same tired old stories?
Is my point.
Why would I prefer English literature to French - it's all foreign muck!
Vive the Auld Alliance!!
Well I do agree Luddite , but sadly I dont think many people know about Stephen and Matilda except what they have read in the Cadfael books
QuoteWhen are they going to make the epic series about Stephen and Matilda and The Anarchy?
Pillars of the Earth?
Haven't watched Musketeers, not interested.
But love France would rather holiday there than anywhere in Britain
*lights fuze on grenado*
Just to get references right - are we comparing England, Britain or the UK to France?
In my humble opinion, Scotland has a lot to offer in the scenery and history.
*grenado fuze splutters*
I'd like to see a series about for example, MacBeth who was much besmirched by Shakepeare though he ruled for 17 years; the entire Norse period; the Border Reivers! So much excellent Scottish history and stunning landscape.
Much better than French tat, and all that boring old English stuff.
*Throws grenado into the room and exist hastily*
Quote from: fsn on 03 February 2014, 06:07:23 PM
In my humble opinion, Scotland has a lot to offer in the scenery and history.
*grenado fuze splutters*
Here's tae us!
Wha's like us?
Gey few,
An' they're a' deid!!
:)
Quote from: Luddite on 03 February 2014, 01:37:29 PM
The France is the old enemy
That would depend on which country you are talking about.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 February 2014, 01:39:32 PM
Vive the Auld Alliance!!
Exactly.
So perhaps lobby the BBC for more dramatisations of Walter Scott. Personally, I'm enjoying the Musketeers' scenery that I wouldn't be seeing in a drama set in Britain.
Quote from: fsn on 03 February 2014, 06:07:23 PM
In my humble opinion, Scotland has a lot to offer in the scenery and history.
Aye...snafflin coo-beastie :D
Aye, all those heaving busoms would not look sae grand wi a covering of midgie bites!
Quote from: fsn on 03 February 2014, 06:07:23 PM
I'd like to see a series about for example, MacBeth who was much besmirched by Shakepeare though he ruled for 17 years; the entire Norse period; the Border Reivers! So much excellent Scottish history and stunning landscape.
I think you will find the Border Reivers is as much about English history as Scots. I'd love to see a good series about how we English gave the Scots a good drubbing, going over the border to steal their men, beat their women and ravish their cattle....or something like that.
:P ;D
Yers, but a facinating period. I quite fancy besieging a Peel tower, that would look fantastic in 10mm!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 February 2014, 01:24:58 PM
Why don't the Musketeers use muskets? Dunno. Presumably the same reason most dragoons don't actually use a dragon no fusileers a fusil and grenadiers aren't the only ones using grenades?
France? Why not, after all we were allies for 300 years.
As to the difference between those at the top in a Kingdom or a Republic - you couldn't slide a sheet of A4 between the two :)
Word. 8)
Quote from: sunjester on 04 February 2014, 12:41:49 PM
I think you will find the Border Reivers is as much about English history as Scots. I'd love to see a good series about how we English gave the Scots a good drubbing, going over the border to steal their men, beat their women and ravish their cattle....or something like that.
:P ;D
Double word... Or something like that. 8) 8)
Quote from: irregularwars on 06 February 2014, 08:47:33 PM
Word. 8)
Careful, I can hear Microsoft's lawyers sharpening their pencils....
Really worried that we didn't see the king's model ship. Do you think the part work has finished?
Also, Constance is coming alive! Like to see her learning to shoot.
Missed it last night....Any good ?
Cheers - Phil.
Yeah, quite enjoyed it.
Anyone notice at the end (when they show next weeks snippet) that Porthos was aiming his pistol (matchlock, flintlock whatever) with the wrong eye closed??? :-\
Wargaming can really spoil enjoyment of films and TV. I remember how cheesed off I was, on seeing the film for the first time at the tender age of 15, that every regiment in the Light Brigade had red trousers!!!!! :o
Quote from: get2grips on 10 February 2014, 09:11:45 AM
Yeah, quite enjoyed it.
Anyone notice at the end (when they show next weeks snippet) that Porthos was aiming his pistol (matchlock, flintlock whatever) with the wrong eye closed??? :-\
Still had the same chance of hitting something, though.... ;)
Quote from: fsn on 09 February 2014, 10:00:56 PM
Really worried that we didn't see the king's model ship. Do you think the part work has finished?
Maybe he missed a couple of issues of " Build yourself a Royal Galleon" at the newsagents
Quote from: Hertsblue on 12 February 2014, 09:52:57 AM
Still had the same chance of hitting something, though.... ;)
Keep trying to explain this to my wife...she may be getting a little bord with: "wouldn't be that accurate." :D
Quote from: get2grips on 12 February 2014, 10:40:19 AM
Keep trying to explain this to my wife...she may be getting a little bord with: "wouldn't be that accurate." :D
Quite possibly wouldn't fire at all, especially in this weather.....
I did mention to the wife that the powder they used wasn't correct , some of the buckets the peasants used were of the wrong diameter.... These bruises I have were caused by falling down the stairs a few times
Quote from: Fenton on 12 February 2014, 10:47:25 AM
I did mention to the wife that the powder they used wasn't correct , some of the buckets the peasants used were of the wrong diameter.... These bruises I have were caused by falling down the stairs a few times
;D ;D ;D
Wargaming occupational hazzard is the inability to watch something historical and leave the brain outside :-\
Some things one can put up with - there aren't many Tiger tanks in existence any more and they're too big to knit. But Mousquetaires du Roi in leather..... Pah!
Quote from: get2grips on 10 February 2014, 09:11:45 AM
Yeah, quite enjoyed it.
Anyone notice at the end (when they show next weeks snippet) that Porthos was aiming his pistol (matchlock, flintlock whatever) with the wrong eye closed??? :-\
Wasn't Porthos reknowned for being shitfaced most of the time? Might explain his cockeyedness :-[
Well.....I just hope it makes more sense this week.
Couldn't follow it at all last Sunday......Went on far too long....And appeared to be some sort of weird dream sequence......Lots of famous actors seemed to be making guest appearances though.
Looked more like an awards ceremony. ;) ;)
Cheers - Phil.
I havnt watched it since episode 2...just got bored with it
Quote from: Fenton on 23 February 2014, 07:15:54 PM
I havnt watched it since episode 2...just got bored with it
You're nearly 50; you mean you fell asleep Steve :D :D :D
I-)
;D ;D ;D
Sorry you were saying something?...Kinda phased out there for a second
So Constance gets vaguely interesting last episode and so not a sight of her perky cleavage this time.
Nor indeed the kings part work ship.
It's one small disappointment after another - and I've heard that a few times.
Quote from: fsn on 23 February 2014, 09:56:10 PM
So Constance gets vaguely interesting last episode and so not a sight of her perky cleavage this time.
Aye, but it looks like she'll be back next week ;)
This is definitely turning into a worthwhile series.
The king is turning out to have some character and one even feels a little sympathy for Richelieu.
We haven't watched for a couple of weeks now. It obviously hasn't grabbed us as a family, unlike Merlin and Atlantis. The time slot may have something to do with it...
I haven't been able to catch it due to work, but have enjoyed what I have seen to date. Better than reality TV anyday, but so is watching paint dry ;D
Dont do catch up TV as I never seem to have the time to catch up ;D
Quote from: fsn on 09 March 2014, 10:42:56 PM
The king is turning out to have some character and one even feels a little sympathy for Richelieu.
Agreed. Ryan Gage plays spoiled boy king beautifully; when he grins I could slap him. I'm also wondering when Richelieu will show his true colours.
Quote from: get2grips on 10 March 2014, 10:32:54 AM
I'm also wondering when Richelieu will show his true colours.
I thought his little speech in the aftermath of Ninon De Larroque's rescue in this weeks episode plus his comment about the papacy made to Milady summed up Richelieu's "true colours" rather well.
Enjoying the series immensely. So much better than the abominations that were Merlin and Atlantis.
Hear, hear.
Even Mrs T enjoyed last week's episode.
Cheers - Phil
So often the hero gives the "little lady" a little tuition in the combat arts and when she tries to put them into practice she winds up having to be rescued by the hero.
So it was nice to see Constance trounce the bad guy in a sword fight, in the story about the stolen baby.
Suggests that if D'Artagnan can't hack it as a Musketeer he has a promising career as a fencing master :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 10 March 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Enjoying the series immensely. So much better than the abominations that were Merlin and Atlantis.
I forgot to say earlier.........I thought Atlantis was so, SO 'iffy' it made Merlin look good !
Cheers - Phil.
BEST EPISODE EVER! last night.
Anyone planning a skirmish along similar lines?
Thoroughly enjoyed that one too, Gareth !
Last episode next week ?......
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 24 March 2014, 09:38:07 AM
Thoroughly enjoyed that one too, Gareth !
Last episode next week ?......
Cheers - Phil
Boo!
However...Thrones is starting...so excited I might just wee :D
Quote from: get2grips on 24 March 2014, 09:52:19 AM
However...Thrones is starting...so excited I might just wee :D
lol - I've only just finished Series 2!
While on the subject of GoT.
"Why doesn't George R R Martin use Twitter?"
"All 140 characters have already been killed off!"
Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 March 2014, 10:16:16 AM
"Why doesn't George R R Martin use Twitter?"
"All 140 characters have already been killed off!"
Took me a while ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D - like that. Incidentally did the last episode of the Musketeers imply a blood relationship between Aramis and Louis XIV?
QuoteLouis XIV
I think the book is set during the reign of Louis XIII but given the series' rather swashbuckling disregard for history the odd Loius here or there can't be moaned about ;D
Quote from: DanJ on 26 March 2014, 10:39:42 AM
I think the book is set during the reign of Louis XIII but given the series' rather swashbuckling disregard for history the odd Loius here or there can't be moaned about ;D
I think the point is that having just shagged Anne is Aramis Louis XIV's dad :o
I think Louis XIV was Louis XIII's grandson, so I am implying that Aramis is grandad!
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 28 March 2014, 11:15:44 PM
I think Louis XIV was Louis XIII's grandson, so I am implying that Aramis is grandad!
Well, I wouldn't presume to try and change what you think DP, but all the history books I read make it clear that Louis XIV was the son of Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. :-\ Unexpectedly late in the marriage, but all the more welcome for that. :D.
Mollinary
Quote from: mollinary on 29 March 2014, 10:40:54 AM
Well, I wouldn't presume to try and change what you think DP, but all the history books I read make it clear that Louis XIV was the son of Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. :-\
... and you believe everything you read?? :d
Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 March 2014, 01:57:06 PM
... and you believe everything you read?? :d
Of course - doesn't everyone? :o You'll be telling me next that Gandalf wasn't real!
Mollinary
Ho hum.
Saturday nights aren't going to be quite the same without Constance 1 and Constance 2.
Don't think I be watching the replacement - WWI nurses - "Casualty Goes Forth" or whatever it's called.
Wonder how the partwork ship is going.
Saturdays? Thought it was on Sundays!!!
Erm... Constance 1&2? Have I missed something, or someone?
Quote from: mad lemmey on 31 March 2014, 09:23:19 PM
Saturdays? Thought it was on Sundays!!!
Erm... Constance 1&2? Have I missed something, or someone?
No. She was worth dribbling over twice :x
Hi. It's me. FSN. Trapped in Techno's avatar. It's like having your dad watching over your shoulder.
Constance 1 and Constance 2. You know! Costume malfunction alert!
FSN !! >:( >:( >:( >:(
NOT Cheers - Phil
*whisper* See what I mean?
Sorry Dad. It's not like I said "boobies" or anything.
Oops! I said "boobies". Oh dear, I said it again. What an idiot! What a fool! What a .. boob!
You are really pushing it FSN..... >:( >:( >:(
I'm going to get on with some work now...(You may get some piccies later Craig)...I'll be back once Leon's got this sorted......
And then..............................
Mr Grumpy of Wales
Sorry I am confused
Are we saying that FSN and Techno should now be called Constance
Or a pair of Constances's?
Nope still confused
Quote from: Fenton on 01 April 2014, 08:26:52 AM
Are we saying that FSN and Techno should now be called Constance
Or a pair of Constances's?
They are a pair...but not of Constances...but it does start with a C funnily enough :D
Quote from: get2grips on 01 April 2014, 08:48:25 AM
They are a pair...but not of Constances...but it does start with a C funnily enough :D
OH - A PAIR OF CENTURIONS!!!!
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 01 April 2014, 10:55:45 AM
OH - A PAIR OF CENTURIONS!!!!
Do we just call them Macro and Cato from now on then?
fsn certainly has the persistence of Cato (the Censor) - delenda est Carthago!
Quote from: mollinary on 29 March 2014, 02:31:06 PM
Of course - doesn't everyone? :o You'll be telling me next that Gandalf wasn't real!
Mollinary
I know someone who was his personal masseuse on set in Hollywood once. She says he was utterly charming.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 April 2014, 11:12:19 AM
I know someone who was his personal masseuse on set in Hollywood once. She says he was utterly charming.
If she was a she he wouldn't be interested....
Well, she couldn't talk about that while reclining in my arms, could she?
At this point the important question must be will there be a second series of this excellent swashbuckler?
With the cardinal sooming off to be re-incarnated as THE Time Lord can Peter Capaldi fit filming Dr Who and The Musketeers into a single schedule and if not who could take his place????
Quote from: DanJ on 06 April 2014, 06:19:02 PM
At this point the important question must be will there be a second series of this excellent swashbuckler?
With the cardinal sooming off to be re-incarnated as THE Time Lord can Peter Capaldi fit filming Dr Who and The Musketeers into a single schedule and if not who could take his place????
According to here:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-02-09/the-musketeers-to-return-for-a-second-series
it's a go.
Quote from: DanJ on 06 April 2014, 06:19:02 PM
At this point the important question must be will there be a second series of this excellent swashbuckler?
With the cardinal sooming off to be re-incarnated as THE Time Lord can Peter Capaldi fit filming Dr Who and The Musketeers into a single schedule and if not who could take his place????
Well if he's a Time Lord how can scheduling be an issue?
I had wondered if, with Capaldi going off to be Dr Who, they might kill of Richelieu and bring in his historical successor and protege Cardinal Mazarin. I await developments with interest.
Watched Crimson Field tonight and though, as expected, it was pretty much Holby City in Flanders I rather enjoyed it.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 06 April 2014, 09:22:14 PM
I had wondered if, with Capaldi going off to be Dr Who, they might kill of Richelieu and bring in his historical successor and protege Cardinal Mazarin. I await developments with interest.
Watched Crimson Field tonight and though, as expected, it was pretty much Holby City in Flanders I rather enjoyed it.
I thought Crimson Field was rather good, will certainly watch next week
Noticed I missed the Plantagenet prog on Saturday night.
Anyone catch that ?
Cheers - Phil
Yup I did...Part 3 was the last one
*SPOILER ALERT*
Richard dies
Awwwww.......Why did I have to read that ?
Shan't bother now. ;)
Cheers - Phil
QuoteRichard dies
I had a hunch that might be the case
Quote from: Techno on 07 April 2014, 07:35:00 AM
Noticed I missed the Plantagenet prog on Saturday night.
Anyone catch that ?
Cheers - Phil
Saw all three of them and liked them, although I think that my liking was based on my almost severe lack of knowledge of the times in this part of the world. A tad more knowledgeable now. Wasn't too sure about the prof's flailing arms though.
Latest series starts well....(ok...suspend disbelief about renaissance shell and open order pike...and the outfits!) BUT very entertaining and worth the watch. Nice to see a show that doesn't need sex to keep it interesting!
Good fights and some nice acting carries over the clichés well.
Hate the TV voice-overs over the credits, though...why don't they ever listen to viewers complaints? Bloody execs!
Wot no sex? Wot no Constance? Wot no Milday? Wot no Queenie?
Don't know if I'll bother. ;)
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 29 May 2016, 01:10:34 AM
Nice to see a show that doesn't need sex to keep it interesting!
Brave men and women fought and died for our right to see tits and arse in our entertainment! Show some respect!
Started watching it and gave up after a few minutes with the attack on the redoubt :(.
Will Iplayer it later! ;D
I have to conclude that there is no room for fantasy in Steve J's wargames world.
Quote from: Leman on 29 May 2016, 09:05:19 AM
I have to conclude that there is no room for fantasy in Steve J's wargames world.
Yeah, not enough lasers and battlebots in the Beeb's Musketeer series for Steve J :D
;D ;D ;D Well certainly no airships - shame on them.
I was waiting for a thermo-nuclear strike to clear the redoubt. When it failed to materialise and they did the frankly ludicrous charge I thought "sod this for a game of soldiers" and promptly switched channels to watch 'Battle Los Angeles'. At least it was more entertaining and had plenty of explosions, aliens with lasers and their battlebots. What's not to like? :D ;)
Constance ... and herring.
(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/vpx3HP_j15IvY01NVmhZ0ANhD2A=/fit-in/1200x9600/http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2Ffish-portrait-I.jpg)
Are they herring aids?
Coat !!!
Quote from: Steve J on 29 May 2016, 04:18:32 PM..... and promptly switched channels to watch 'Battle Los Angeles'. At least it was more entertaining and had plenty of explosions, aliens with lasers and their battlebots. What's not to like? :D ;)
The jerky hand held filming.....It was making me feel 'sea sick' after about 40 minutes, Steve......So I stopped watching.
It's a Marmite film....You'll love it or hate it.
I'm afraid I loathed it.... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Leman on 26 June 2016, 01:31:51 PM
Are they herring aids?
Coat !!!
Not until Nobby's finished chewing it. ;)
Cheers - Phil
As lovely as that picture is, I'm left wondering why. :-\
Perhaps it's a red herring!
At last I can see what d'Artagnan sees in her now - despite the herrings.