Napoleonic

Started by Barbarossa, 16 August 2018, 10:53:45 PM

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Barbarossa

Hi, I would like to know if there are going to be novelties for the Napoleonic period. Especially to complete the range Waterloo but also for the French, Imperial Guard for example. Thank you very much.  ;)

Leon

We have got the Dutch-Belgians coming next to complete our Waterloo plans, and then we might be doing some of the minor nations/states for the 1809 period as well.

We do also have some more French cavalry and the Imperial Guard to release, but I do not have a timescale for those yet.
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parkerm17

How about some Portuguese figures for the Peninsula War?   That seems to be the most obvious gap.

Leman

Would the British in Belgic shako work as proxies?
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Leon

Quote from: parkerm17 on 18 August 2018, 09:16:41 AM
How about some Portuguese figures for the Peninsula War?   That seems to be the most obvious gap.

We'll be getting to those at some point, but I think we'd have a riot if we went and started on Peninsular ranges before finishing off 1809 and 1815!
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Dr Dave

Quote from: Leman on 18 August 2018, 10:03:40 AM
Would the British in Belgic shako work as proxies?

Possibly, but no flank coy types, cacdores or cavalry.

Plus when the Portuguese are in the Berritina the British are in stovepipe, so without Peninsula Brits it's a bit pointless. You can't have one without the other really. As a general rule each British division (normally 2 brigades of 3 bttns each) included a  Portuguese brigade (4-5 bttns)

I think it needs a whole new range.  :(

Leman

Such complications and uniform changes and faff are amongst the reasons I have always found it difficult to get excited about Napoleonics.
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FierceKitty

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Leman

Very straightforward period with only the French (as per) putting a fly in the ointment of uniform change.

PS. Lobositz to Leuthen and Olmutz to Torgau by Horace St. Paul are on a cracking deal at Naval and Military Press at the moment. Both volumes together for £25 reduced from £75.
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Glorfindel

>>PS. Lobositz to Leuthen and Olmutz to Torgau by Horace St. Paul are on a cracking deal at Naval and Military Press at the moment. Both volumes together for £25 reduced from £75.


Many thanks for the tip - I have the first of these and thought it was excellent.

Looks like they also have loads of the Helion books on offer as well.   Just need
to rob a bank and they will be mine !


Phil

Barbarossa

Thank you for your reply. I asked the question because I would like to get into the Napoleonic rule ESR in 10mm, and I did not want to start the period and not be able to finish it. Especially since I really like your figures and I'm not too much to mix with other brands that they are less beautiful.

Barbarossa

That's why I wanted to know if there were other Napoleonic trips. Thanks.

John Cook

Quote from: Leman on 19 August 2018, 09:52:07 AM
Such complications and uniform changes and faff are amongst the reasons I have always found it difficult to get excited about Napoleonics.


Just think of them as several different early 19th century wars, which is essentially what they were.  Lumping them all together as 'Napoleonic' doesn't really work.  It is a bit like calling everything between 1850 and  1870 'mid 19th century' or some other all embracing name.

Leon

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lekw

I was also wondering about this. What are people using for 100 days French? Any plans for regular French infantry for the period to be released?

Leon

Quote from: lekw on 19 August 2019, 01:48:38 AM
Any plans for regular French infantry for the period to be released?

Other than the Guard types which I need to get done, there's no further plans for specific 1815 French.  The differences to the 1809 uniform are so minor that I'm not sure it's worth us getting them sculpted at the moment.
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Zippee

If you continue with the Peninsular expansion as discussed elsewhere then the 'German ally in short tailed coat and shako' will serve pretty well for all Bardin issue French anyway.

Not Drowning, Waving

That would be extremely useful for a wide range of units. Looking forward to their arrival after what would appear to be a long march (assuming the idea of producing them has even left the depot...).

John Cook

"The differences to the 1809 uniform are so minor.....".  I beg to differ Leon, they are as minor as the differences between the various Mks of Cruiser and Sherman tanks.  But, we've had this conversation before ;)

Zippee

have to agree with John here, trying to do the wars of 1804-15 in one range per nation is akin to doing WWII and refusing to acknowledge there is a difference between 1940 and 1944 or betwen Burma and Normandy. it just won't wash  :D

Very broadly most nations go through three significant changes

French - bicorn & long tails - shako & long tails - shako & short tails
Austrian - kasket - helmet - shako
Russia - bicorn - shako 1 - shako 2
Prussia - bicorn - shako [there's always one that don't fit the masterplan!]
Britain - bicorn - stovepipe - belgic

Most of the minor states start off with bicorn or helmet and emerge with shako & short tails or helmet & short tails

Cavalry and artillery likewise change but usually only once or twice.

Within that there's a lot of special variances and unique units but broadly each nation needs 2-3 periods. Sadly the dates don't match up conveniently but mostly you can limit the Napoleonic range to the last two and shift the first to the Revolutionary War range - not perfect but will do