I do prefer to see my base sizes in metric..seeing sizes of 1 and 7/8 of an inch puts me off now

Greetings

I use either inches or centimetres depending on what I am using.  So some games in 10mm e.g. Field of Battle (reduced scale) and Black Poweder I am aiming to use centimetres, while I will use inches with Maurice as my SYW bases are 25mm/1 inch frontage.

Regards

Edward

Always in cm here!

This is a question that annoys me (sorry)

Rules that say use x for 25mm figs, y for 15mm etc are wrong, especially if the units are given in bases.

As was pointed about its about what you use for bases.

Take Black Powder- this gives 24 fig units each on 20mm base - a frontage of 240mm, a depth of 40mm.

It does not matter a damn what size figures you use - the unit footprint is 240mm x 40mm.  As long as your unit has that as a footprint then you can use what size figures you like.- a 20mm base will take 4-6 10mm.

As it happens Sunjester and I have used cm instead of inches, purely as a cost and space thing BUT all our units are on a 120mm frontage.  I get 36 figures to the unit - this being equivalent to the 45mm base size given in the rules.  I would love to do it in inches - using 4 of our cm battallions to make 1 inches bn - as we do WSS this would be right - 4 ranks deep, and a total game bn size of 144.  What looks more H&M? 24 28mm or 144 10mm?

Another example They Couldn't Hit and Elephant (TFL) gets it right.  If using 15 or 20s that the rules were wriiten for, one base is 4 men, and you do figure removal.  For 10s you put more on a base (I get 7) and keep a casualty track - 4 hits kills one base.

We do CoC in both 20's (my figs) and 10's (Sj's) - we still use inches for both

I agree with the comment about silly base sizes - what is it about the Yanks and their 1 1/8 inch by 7/8 inch?  All my bases are either 20 (BP for WSS) or 30mm- 30mm is a good 'inch' replacement- compatable with most sets, and fits nicely in the Hobby trays (60mm compartments) of Really Useful Boxes.

/rant off

Quote from: Last Hussar on 03 December 2013, 08:27:26 PM
This is a question that annoys me (sorry)

Rules that say use x for 25mm figs, y for 15mm etc are wrong, especially if the units are given in bases.

As was pointed about its about what you use for bases.

Take Black Powder- this gives 24 fig units each on 20mm base - a frontage of 240mm, a depth of 40mm.

It does not matter a damn what size figures you use - the unit footprint is 240mm x 40mm.  As long as your unit has that as a footprint then you can use what size figures you like.- a 20mm base will take 4-6 10mm.

As it happens Sunjester and I have used cm instead of inches, purely as a cost and space thing BUT all our units are on a 120mm frontage.  I get 36 figures to the unit - this being equivalent to the 45mm base size given in the rules.  I would love to do it in inches - using 4 of our cm battallions to make 1 inches bn - as we do WSS this would be right - 4 ranks deep, and a total game bn size of 144.  What looks more H&M? 24 28mm or 144 10mm?

Another example They Couldn't Hit and Elephant (TFL) gets it right.  If using 15 or 20s that the rules were wriiten for, one base is 4 men, and you do figure removal.  For 10s you put more on a base (I get 7) and keep a casualty track - 4 hits kills one base.

We do CoC in both 20's (my figs) and 10's (Sj's) - we still use inches for both

I agree with the comment about silly base sizes - what is it about the Yanks and their 1 1/8 inch by 7/8 inch?  All my bases are either 20 (BP for WSS) or 30mm- 30mm is a good 'inch' replacement- compatable with most sets, and fits nicely in the Hobby trays (60mm compartments) of Really Useful Boxes.

/rant off

I agree

I prefer metric for bases but imperial for game measurement - unless the rules specify measurement by base width.

I prefer inches. Cm are too fiddly and I like a game to get going fast.

And.........we're back in the room. 

 I much prefer being given a number of CM or inches than a number of base widths. It is especially confusing if your figures are based for other rulesets say Fire and fury on 1 1/4 inch bases. It also implies that there is a relevance between a units frontage and range or movement.

Thank god I don't have a mathematical mind because that previous post seems:

a) irrelevant, and;

b) can't be arsed to make a base width measure.

Is it not obvious the rules writer is doing you the biggest favour in the world by not having to rebase. Anyhow who cares - measure what you like using whatever system you like, have fun and don't fry your brain over wargames realism. If you want realism join the Army.

Greetings

If a base width measurement is used and the bases are a bit out from an easy measurement the rules suggest using the next nearest easy measure.  So the 1 1/4 inch base could use 3cm or maybe an inch by agreement between the players.  Actually I find a trickier issue is the difference between rules that have the same base width for all units vs different ones for different troop types (the easiest fix for this is temporary sabot basing).   

Regards

Edward

I've never been able to see how the "hand's width" measurement could ever work. The human hand is so variable in size that one player might have a couple of inches  extra move over his opponent. 

For my dinosaur hunting games I use cm instead of inches as a rifle has a top range of 96 inches. As I also am basing my stuff for Warmaster the rules stand as is.

Quote from: Dour Puritan on 05 December 2013, 12:59:37 PM
If you want realism join the Army.

Base sizes metric. Measurement I'm fine with using either metric or imperial, so cm or inches though I prefer centimetres these days