When you use 10mm figures and the rules are in inches do you modify the ground scale to cm or do you still use the inches? I'm thinking about Colonial games.

Thanks

Tony

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Simple answer is, are you using the original basing but with 10mm figures, or are you reducing the basing as well? I have done both and both work well.

I would still use measurement as is.. but I use smaller figures so I can get more on the bases to make them look like armies

Still waiting for someone to write a set of rules with a 'Shaftment' being the standard unit of measure  

Come on Fenton, a lot of rules now use the 'base width' as the unit of measure. I then base on 25mm frontage and measure in inches (OK i did that with the SYW, but I now use a lot of 30mm frontage armies - ho hum).

what is a 'shaftment'?

Quote from: Tony S on 02 December 2013, 08:39:01 PM
When you use 10mm figures and the rules are in inches do you modify the ground scale to cm or do you still use the inches?

hello
here we use 1 inch for 2cm ( instead of 2.54cm)
1. easy for us to compute ( as we use metrics rulers )
2. gain a small amount of space to game ( the board looks like it is 25% larger)
3. for most of our games, it's near the real scale.

I hope this helped you.

Quote from: Nirnman on 02 December 2013, 08:59:56 PM
what is a 'shaftment'?

I googled and found :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftment

Quote from: Nirnman on 02 December 2013, 08:59:56 PM
what is a 'shaftment'?

According to a book I have it  was used a measure of 6 inches up until the 12th Century.

I think you've just been shafted!

My brain keeps thinking of being shafted etc

we have used inches halved and works well, centimetres are fine but seem to generate a bit more haggling over shooting measurements

Quote from: Fenton on 02 December 2013, 09:03:27 PM
My brain keeps thinking of being shafted etc

Is it something to do with your age, do you think?

I try to train myself to use metric (all my rules use metric) as it's so much easier than imperial, but I still find myself having to convert to inches to estimate distances. Too old to change now, I guess. 

As Sandanista said for all the Black powder variants we tend to go inches halved. Gives us a musket range of 9" which means we have plenty of room to manouver and get in to trouble 

I go inches for cm in black powder...

I do prefer to see my base sizes in metric..seeing sizes of 1 and 7/8 of an inch puts me off now

Greetings

I use either inches or centimetres depending on what I am using.  So some games in 10mm e.g. Field of Battle (reduced scale) and Black Poweder I am aiming to use centimetres, while I will use inches with Maurice as my SYW bases are 25mm/1 inch frontage.

Regards

Edward

Always in cm here!

This is a question that annoys me (sorry)

Rules that say use x for 25mm figs, y for 15mm etc are wrong, especially if the units are given in bases.

As was pointed about its about what you use for bases.

Take Black Powder- this gives 24 fig units each on 20mm base - a frontage of 240mm, a depth of 40mm.

It does not matter a damn what size figures you use - the unit footprint is 240mm x 40mm.  As long as your unit has that as a footprint then you can use what size figures you like.- a 20mm base will take 4-6 10mm.

As it happens Sunjester and I have used cm instead of inches, purely as a cost and space thing BUT all our units are on a 120mm frontage.  I get 36 figures to the unit - this being equivalent to the 45mm base size given in the rules.  I would love to do it in inches - using 4 of our cm battallions to make 1 inches bn - as we do WSS this would be right - 4 ranks deep, and a total game bn size of 144.  What looks more H&M? 24 28mm or 144 10mm?

Another example They Couldn't Hit and Elephant (TFL) gets it right.  If using 15 or 20s that the rules were wriiten for, one base is 4 men, and you do figure removal.  For 10s you put more on a base (I get 7) and keep a casualty track - 4 hits kills one base.

We do CoC in both 20's (my figs) and 10's (Sj's) - we still use inches for both

I agree with the comment about silly base sizes - what is it about the Yanks and their 1 1/8 inch by 7/8 inch?  All my bases are either 20 (BP for WSS) or 30mm- 30mm is a good 'inch' replacement- compatable with most sets, and fits nicely in the Hobby trays (60mm compartments) of Really Useful Boxes.

/rant off

Quote from: Last Hussar on 03 December 2013, 08:27:26 PM
This is a question that annoys me (sorry)

Rules that say use x for 25mm figs, y for 15mm etc are wrong, especially if the units are given in bases.

As was pointed about its about what you use for bases.

Take Black Powder- this gives 24 fig units each on 20mm base - a frontage of 240mm, a depth of 40mm.

It does not matter a damn what size figures you use - the unit footprint is 240mm x 40mm.  As long as your unit has that as a footprint then you can use what size figures you like.- a 20mm base will take 4-6 10mm.

As it happens Sunjester and I have used cm instead of inches, purely as a cost and space thing BUT all our units are on a 120mm frontage.  I get 36 figures to the unit - this being equivalent to the 45mm base size given in the rules.  I would love to do it in inches - using 4 of our cm battallions to make 1 inches bn - as we do WSS this would be right - 4 ranks deep, and a total game bn size of 144.  What looks more H&M? 24 28mm or 144 10mm?

Another example They Couldn't Hit and Elephant (TFL) gets it right.  If using 15 or 20s that the rules were wriiten for, one base is 4 men, and you do figure removal.  For 10s you put more on a base (I get 7) and keep a casualty track - 4 hits kills one base.

We do CoC in both 20's (my figs) and 10's (Sj's) - we still use inches for both

I agree with the comment about silly base sizes - what is it about the Yanks and their 1 1/8 inch by 7/8 inch?  All my bases are either 20 (BP for WSS) or 30mm- 30mm is a good 'inch' replacement- compatable with most sets, and fits nicely in the Hobby trays (60mm compartments) of Really Useful Boxes.

/rant off

I agree