Russian and German items I'd like to see

Started by Ithoriel, 28 May 2013, 10:55:22 PM

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NTM

What did the Pz II command look like not come across that one before, presumably similar the the Artillery observer version.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Checked von Senger und Etterling - no mention of a command version of the Pnz II, and I've not heard of one.

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Ithoriel

I'm with ianrs54 - never come across mention of a Pz II command tank. Pz I and PzIII command tanks but not Pz II.
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OldenBUA

25 July 2013, 12:01:05 PM #23 Last Edit: 25 July 2013, 12:05:08 PM by OldenBUA
The 'Encyclopedia of Tanks' by Duncan Crow and Robert J. Icks mentions a 1935 'PzBefWgRhB' command tank under the entry for the Pz II. Supposedly with 37mm gun and 2x MG. If it existed, it's a rare beast, indeed! Searching for it gives you exactly one hit on Google... Looks like a wrong reference to the first marks of the Pz III, I'd say.

But surely Mick will know what he had in mind?

Incidentally, in the early years, the Pz II was intented as the command tank for a platoon of Pz I's, but AFAIK this was the normal version, not a special one.
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NTM

Sounds more like the command version of the 35t, which did exist, to me
I think in German docs the 35t and 38t were described as PzII or PzIII as that's what they were being used in the place of.

Albie Bach

25 July 2013, 01:31:54 PM #25 Last Edit: 25 July 2013, 01:33:36 PM by Albie Bach
According to wwiivehicles.com, 200 Pz II Ausf B chassis were modified to Command versions. 96 were available for the invasion of Poland
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/tanks-light/pzkpfw-ii.asp
EDIT - you have to click on the "Variants" or "Production" tabs

And here's a few pictures
http://mini-history.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/panzerbefehlswagen-ii-ausf-b-operation.html

Is that the one?
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Not seen that un before.....Looks like a simple conversion job.

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Ithoriel

Well there you go! Not something I've ever seen before and not mentioned in any of the books I have on German armour.

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The_Shootist

So its just a command cupola upgrade, very easy conversion.

BH62

As I said to Leon few days ago, a WWII german army without Schwimmwagen is like cheese without red wine !  ;)
I propose to add a Scwimmwagen to the requests list.
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Quote from: Bernie on 21 June 2013, 06:12:31 PM
How about the peasant horse drawn panje wagon used by all sides and the most common means of moving supplies for both sides for most of the war

I have to agree The Panje Wagon was used all over the place and would also be usefull for earlier wars as well.

The T35 is avaliabel elswhere and has limited use on the table top and consequently limited comercial viability.
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On the subject of Russian possibilities, isn't there some need of a couple of Boyar feudal cavalry to fight the Mongols?
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