Starting the war of 1866

Started by Charon, 22 September 2012, 10:00:58 AM

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mollinary

Much better, but perhaps the blue could go a shade darker yet?

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OldenBUA

Some advice needed chaps.

So, I just came back from a holiday near Trutnov (aka Trautenau). Basically you have Jicin on the left, Hradec Kralove (aka Königsgratz) in the rear, and little signs with 'Battle of 1866' all over the place. To make matters worse, my surname is Oldenburger, and just what do I see in this thread when I get back?

And still, I have no intention at all to 'Start the war of 1866'. Does this mean that something is amiss? Should I be slavering over Pendraken's 1866 ranges right now, planning a new army or two?

It's just that my interest in armies stops at about late Renaissance, and only picks up again around WW2 (or possibly a bit earlier). Which excludes most of the 'rows and rows of identically clad figures' type armies, where even the last obscure detail seems to matter. Still, to each his own, I say. But it does leave me to think that maybe something is terribly wrong. Any opinions? Is it just me, or do others suffer from the same affliction?
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Olden,

Nothing wrong at all  - but the ranges and figures are very good, and the wars very interesting. I hope you enjoyed your trip to Trautenau, I love the area, and there are few areas for battlefield tours which combine untouched, unchanged fields, with beautiful countryside, friendly people, lovely towns, good hotels, great food and wine, and superb beer, all at affordable prices. Keep an open mind, and let the period creep up on you!

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Certainly agree with you on the lovely countryside, nice people, good food and beer. The towns (or usually the historic centre) are full of charm, and as you say, everything is very affordable. On the period, well maybe one day. But I think there are a lot of periods and armies I would rather do before embarking on this.

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Talking of the 91st Oldenburgers, here they are before I changed the flag:


And here it is after:


(Just of note, the one reference I came across for the flag says that by 1866 it was in tatters, lawd knows what it must have been like in 1870)
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mollinary

Well done on the flag, it looks worth the effort. On condition in 1870, Fiebig p399 shows an engraving of one of the Oldenburger's flags,by G.Lebrecht, at Vionville-Mars la Tour.  All it shows is the bottom monogram nearest the pole, and a strip of cloth rising to the top!

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PS, I'd stick with the complete one.
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Charon

Quote from: mollinary on 30 September 2012, 03:19:35 PM

PS, I'd stick with the complete one.

Me too! It would be a shame to go to all that work just to "age it"

Talking Oldenburg, the Knotel picture I've managed to find on the internet shows them wearing what looks like a kepi. Would the best proxy for this be an ACW union infantryman?

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mollinary

I agree with Lemmey. The belly cartridge box would also indicate that the Pendraken 1870 Wurttembergers are the figures to use.

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30 September 2012, 05:22:25 PM #51 Last Edit: 30 September 2012, 05:27:37 PM by Charon
Thanks chaps, for info this is the picture I was referring to;


1866 oldenburg by Charon71, on Flickr

See what I mean about the kepi? Cartridge box would be an issue though.

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Not really, the rifle is sculpted across the chest so you cannot really see them!
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cameronian

30 September 2012, 05:39:04 PM #53 Last Edit: 30 September 2012, 05:42:20 PM by cameronian
I hope you enjoyed your trip to Trautenau, I love the area, and there are few areas for battlefield tours which combine untouched, unchanged fields, with beautiful countryside, friendly people, lovely towns, good hotels, great food and wine, and superb beer

... !!! Yes, and the superb company, the superb, enlivening, erudite company, you forgot the company !!!

And I'm still a ruddy Lieutenant, what does it take to get a promotion round here?
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Quote from: cameronian on 30 September 2012, 05:39:04 PM
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300 posts is your next bump, Lieutenant!

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Quote from: Leon on 30 September 2012, 05:47:02 PM
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30 September 2012, 06:42:57 PM #57 Last Edit: 30 September 2012, 07:26:27 PM by Techno
Quote from: cameronian on 30 September 2012, 05:39:04 PM
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Make lots some of your posts incoherent drivel like I do.  ;)
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mollinary

In my first post I stated that in 1866 Oldenburg fielded only two active battalions. I have since discovered I was wrong, and that in 1855 the Reserve battalion and light battalion were combined to form the third active battalion. So three battalions in both 1866 and 1870. Apologies for the mistake.   :( :( :(

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Stuart Sutherland in his excellent book on the German States' armies gives the strenbth of these 3 battalions as just short of 2,700.

Chad