Quote from: Big Insect on 14 September 2022, 03:52:53 PMThey most certainly don't make 'em like that anymore!

Some people think he sold out and became too commercial with his later work

Quote from: fsn on 14 September 2022, 04:34:02 PMWhich is a relief to music lovers everywhere.

Apparently not!

Honours and awards
1986 Grawemeyer Award for Music Composition, University of Louisville[30]
1986 Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres, Ministry of Culture, France[10]
1988 Knight Bachelor (Kt), Monarchy of the United Kingdom in the 1988 Queen's Birthday Honours List[10][30]
1989 Fellowship, Royal Northern College of Music (FRNCM).[31][32]
1994 Honorary Fellow, Royal Academy of Arts[33]
1995 Ernst von Siemens Music Prize[30]
2001 Order of the Companions of Honour (CH), Monarchy of the United Kingdom in the 2001 New Years Honours List[10]
2003 Royal Philharmonic Society Music Awards Large-scale Composition in London[30]
2007 Foreign Honorary Member, American Academy of Arts and Letters[34]
2015 Wihuri Sibelius Prize[30]

Unfortunately, you're lumping all "music lovers" into a homogeneous lot. I consider myself to be a music lover, and yet find his work to be awful. Then again, I'm not keen on much of the orchestral or operatic works post Beethoven though apparently "WAP" is deemed to be good music to some people.

I'll take my usual stand and say "you like it - go for it. Me? No thanks."

 

Not aware of having heard of Harrison Bertwhistle or his music before. If that's a typical sample I consider myself blessed.

That said, I still mourn the man's passing and wish any fans much pleasure from his work.

Quote from: fsn on 14 September 2022, 06:10:30 PMUnfortunately, you're lumping all "music lovers" into a homogeneous lot
 

"Which is a relief to music lovers everywhere."

fsn

  

Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 September 2022, 06:30:50 PMNot aware of having heard of Harrison Bertwhistle or his music before. If that's a typical sample I consider myself blessed.

That said, I still mourn the man's passing and wish any fans much pleasure from his work.

It has a singing Minotaur and annoys people--- how punk rock is that!

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 14 September 2022, 06:51:37 PM"Which is a relief to music lovers everywhere."

fsn

  

I'm sorry there are concepts there that you find hard to grasp. 

Quote from: fsn on 14 September 2022, 07:38:03 PMI'm sorry there are concepts there that you find hard to grasp. 

Yeah, I am still working on the Orwellian Humpty Dumpty approach to contradiction.

Quote from: Big Insect on 14 September 2022, 03:52:53 PMThey most certainly don't make 'em like that anymore!

Thank goodnes for that!  I confess to never having heard of Harrison Birtwhistle and I'm sorry that he's died.  In an attempt to inform myself I noticed a review which of The Minotaur which said " I doubt that this score will appeal to many who are not committed enthusiasts for late 20th century works".  They got that right.  Some of the gushing obituaries reminded me of the tale of The Emperor's New Clothes.

Quote from: John Cook on 14 September 2022, 10:22:15 PMSome of the gushing obituaries reminded me of the tale of The Emperor's New Clothes.

I feel the same way about Megan Thee Stallion but then  I expect her oeuvre is not really aimed at the likes of me

A friends now often replies to emails of mine, bemoaning some advert or other, with YANTIA! or YANTTA!

Not, as I initially thought, some obscure piece of Kernow dialect.

YANTTA - You Are Not The Target Audience

YANTIA - You Are Not The Intended Audience



Always a timely reminder.

https://infotel.ca/newsitem/eu-britain-obit-harrison-birtwistle/cp392738618


"The question of accessibility," Birtwistle once said, "is not my problem."


Short on conventional harmony and heavy on complex rhythms, Birtwistle's music was often described as having an abrasive quality. In 1995, his piece "Panic" had a high-profile premiere on live television as part of the hugely popular "Last Night of the Proms" concert.

The BBC was inundated with complaints. "Was somebody strangling a cat?" one viewer asked.

B Awfull!    R I some sort of tuneful harmony, Sir.

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 14 September 2022, 10:31:11 PMI feel the same way about Megan Thee Stallion but then  I expect her oeuvre is not really aimed at the likes of me

Had to look it up and found that it's a she and rapper.  Rap is something else I don't get.   

Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 September 2022, 11:09:17 PMYANTTA - You Are Not The Target Audience
YANTIA - You Are Not The Intended Audience

Indeed so, but there is such a thing as collateral damage, or IDRFAA (incidental damage resulting from another activity)