War of The Triple Alliance

Started by Spartan, 16 October 2021, 10:35:23 PM

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Spartan

Trying to get as close to the realities as 'reasonably' possible.

Originally my favourite period was Naps but over time i realised that its very difficult to get a simulation of the battles, without going down to say 2 or 3 mm. Have the view that a lot of people don't realise how big battles like Borodino really are if you do them say bn/sqn for bn/sqn in 1:20, its also difficult to get the ground scale right as well. Additionally Bridge bases don't really cut it for me so gave up on it. Now i mainly play AWI as its is ideal for 28mm.


mmcv

Caesars wars could be good, though the Marian legions only really fought in the Gallic war and civil wars, whereas if you went Republican or Early Imperial you'd have a lot more potential enemies. Saying that, it's quite a different style of combat compared to the gunpowder period you've been doing already. Republican gives you a lot of options against the Gauls, Carthage and all the Hellenic states and the like. Early Imperial have plenty of "barbarian" enemies as well as Eastern kingdoms.

You could maybe look at the Franco Prussian war if you want to stay in the same time period. Alternatively some of the pike and shot era stuff is a lot of fun, for instance 30 Years War, English Civil War or even the Sun King/LoA era stuff.

I'm a big fan of Asian conflicts, China and Japan in particular, but they can be a bit obscure for a lot of people.

Spartan

Considering Ceasers Gallic Wars (in Britian) due to the variety of the battles, and terrain. You can even do assaults on hill forts, amphibious landings, Aliesia and at a push Teutoburg Forest. The Republican battles can be a bit to much of 'line them up and knock them down' for my tastes.

The FPW is something else i should revisit. Studied it for 6months and came up with some ideas that would balance it out i.e. counter Krupp wins but it most of the rules i looked at were not that accurate decided to go with the ACW, lots and lots of evenly matched battles plus i like the F&F rules.


Spartan

Have figures for the WSS which i use for the LOA, also WAS, due to the number of battles in each period being relatively small.

What Japanese/Chinese periods are you interested in? 

mmcv

Fair enough, sounds like you've a good plan for them.

Have you looked into Bloody Big Battles rules? They're based on F&F I believe and have scenarios for the FPW as well as many others from the 18th through early 20th Century.

Japan I'm currently working on the Genpei War and the Sengoku Jidai (12th and 16th centuries respectively). The Boshin War (19th C) has some potential, though more skirmish than big battle for the most part). There's also some very interesting actions in the 20th century, though given the war crimes and atrocities they committed probably has some of the issues you found with the WotTA.

China has a huge variety of options for many massive battles over many different terrains. I've done a couple of armies for late Warring States/early Qin (primarily around the Chu-Han Contention). I'm planning to expand out into broader Warring States. The Han Dynasty period also has some interesting conflicts against the Xiongnu steppe nomads as well as the Red Eyebrows and Yellow Turban Rebellions into the popular Three Kingdoms period. Though you could pretty much pick any century and there's probably some war or other going on in and around China! The Tang, the Song, the Ming, the Manchu... Sounds like you've already dipped your toe in with the Boxer Rebellion.

Bunny

This war appeals to me due to the uniforms and the smaller battles which are easier to represent.

I am toying between 10mm and 15mm??

There are plenty of figures you could sub in

Spartan

@ Bunny what ranges are you looking at?

Chris Pringle

Quote from: Spartan on 17 October 2021, 09:38:28 PM
The FPW is something else i should revisit. Studied it for 6months and came up with some ideas that would balance it out i.e. counter Krupp wins but it most of the rules i looked at were not that accurate

Quote from: mmcv on 17 October 2021, 10:14:52 PM
Have you looked into Bloody Big Battles rules? They're based on F&F I believe and have scenarios for the FPW as well as many others from the 18th through early 20th Century.

Hi Spartan, as mmcv says (thanks for the kind mention), BBB was designed primarily for FPW. The rulebook contains 9 scenarios for the biggest battles of the war, then there are another half a dozen or so freely available in the BBB group files: https://groups.io/g/bloodybigbattles . The scenarios are all evenly matched - it's certainly no walkover for the Germans.

You've already been pointed towards the BBB Tuyuti scenario above. As for China and Japan: those are also on my BBB to-do list but have yet to be made reality. The biggest C19 battle in Japan was Tabaruzaka in 1877 during the Satsuma rebellion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tabaruzaka#:~:text=The%20Battle%20of%20Tabaruzaka%20began%20on%20March%203%2C,mile%20line%20from%20Tabaruzaka%20to%20the%20Ariake%20Sea. Should be an interesting and different game. And then in China there is the whole Taiping rebellion to do some time: https://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/2017/04/taiping-error-not-really.html

Anyway, good luck with settling on conflict, figures and rules that suit you!
Chris

Spartan

@ Chris Pringle, thanks for this will join the group and have a browse.