In my experience, those decisions are only made for you if you find the right book before you paint your army, not immediately after.


Anywho.  Decided on some yellow for the spear dwarves.



Finished up those orc archers. 

Really looking spiffy !

Cheers - Phil.

Very nice

Quote from: lowlylowlycook on 17 January 2017, 04:29:49 AM
In my experience, those decisions are only made for you if you find the right book before you paint your army, not immediately after.

Anywho.  Decided on some yellow for the spear dwarves.

Too true

Good choice

Some orcs got a start to painting because I haven't decided what kind of decoration these blue shields need.  Maybe some gold?



These uruk-type orcs don't have much cloth showing.   I might go with one color for the whole units.  And if I don't do something interesting for their shields they might end up a bit bland, in my opinion.

Look great.
Blue with white or yellow or gold?

Very nice !

Cheers - Phil

 

The orcs look great, nice progress.

My bases came in.  Basically this will be what I'm going for.



Cork would be painted as stone.  I don't think that the orcs have enough room for any scenery and anyway,  the strip bases are pretty substantial so I think it would be hard to integrate into any scenery.

Also, I'm debating whether the banner orc should be moved to the front or if I should stick with compact units.


Anyway, this is my first go at 10mm and actually doing unit basing so any advice would be welcome.

The orcs look cramped to me. Perhaps a few less figures on the base, this would allow a more irregular look to the ranks

I like to make sure banners are protected to some extent by the base so would be inclined to leave him where he is, the banner will make him more obvious when added.

Some people don't like troops bringing their own terrain, e.g. the blue guys on a large stone cliff, other people really love it

I like the scenic bases, they always look good. Yes it's a bit odd that they have some terrain they also seem to be on, but its cinematic and looks good.

I think Paul is right about the Orcs, slightly fewer would probably work better.

Thanks for the advice guys.  I don't know if I can bring myself to putting fewer orcs in there but I did let you talk me out of trying to put more orcs in.   Also I cut a few of the strips so they might line up a bit less now.


But before I finalize any units there is the small problem of command/hero/wizard/ect. stands, because anything not needed for those might get added to units.  I spent a bit (read way too much) time messing around with the 15mm and 20mm bases I have.

For the dwarves. 

Trying to fit things onto the 15mm bases.  Two minis works but 3 is pretty tight.
From Left to right Hero and sidekick, General with bodyguard, Wizard with guard, then two possible banner bearers.



20mm bases are needed for some things (like the IP agnostic wizard on a horse and the Riccola dwarf).  It's pretty easy to fit 3 minis on the larger bases. 


Orcs:

Front row is 15mm bases.  From left to right Double standard bearer.  Single standard bearer.  Champion with body guard.  General with pendant.  Leader on a wolf.  Two orc wizards.
Second Row is 20mm bases.  Nazgul on horse.  Hornblower and pendant on wargs.  Drummers (In Kings of War orcs have a special drummer unit).  Warlord with wolf and pendant.  Badly photographed Nazgul on flying beast. 
In the back, surplus command figs.


It's interesting, I think the orcs fit better on the 15s but it would be simpler to keep things .  I have a vague idea of having combat leaders on 20s and wizards and banners on 15s.  Also I like the idea of all stands that have "Inspiring" (basically banner bearers and generals) should have at least a pendant on a spear.

Just trying to think about what would look good and also be easy to "read" on the battlefield. 

Any thoughts would be welcome.

Looking good, I like the idea of having a couple of figures on the hero stands, makes them look more fighty!

For the standard bearers I might go with just a single figure, they are very weak in combat. I like the idea of adding a flag to all heroes with inspiring.

Facing does matter so make sure it's obvious - I.e the wizard on horse who is quite diagonal on the base.

You will want quite a few standard bearers, but the number of heroes depends on your playing style. I always included a few cheap mounted ones in my Kingoom of men armies, mainly to hunt down war engines and enemy casters. For the Elves I just went with loads of wizards to zap stuff!!

Hmmmm.   How does facing matter for individuals? Can't be flanked and can turn at the start of any phase.  Maybe I'm forgetting something.