I was wondering. Would it be correct if I used the PRussians flags from Pendraken sheet?
I have checked Osprey and warflag. It seems that line infantry used only black flags with white wedges. The colours will change the mood of otherwise very dark-coloured army (especially Brunswickers, with black on black ob black ).

The elder statesmen of Franco-Prussian knowledge will be along later (morning Cameronian, Mollinary and Le Manchu, you all alright?) but if you ask Leon there is a sheet of Prussian flags specially developed for Pendraken figures, which comes with a handy list of which unit had which flag.
The Brunswickers still carried their Waterloo flags, yellow and blue, I hand painted mine for them. Will dig out a photo for you. If you really want a challenge, they also still carried their 'Jingling Johnny', a series of bells on a t-shaped pole, it's preserved in a museum to this day!

Here's X Corps
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3884.0.html

1. I have the Prussian flag sheet, hence the question.
2. Brunswickers will be made soon, I will post some photos on weekend.

There is one with many different coloured flags too. The majority of Prussian units were black and white, but occasionally you get one which has s very different (8th infantry springs to mind)!

OK, here goes!  This is not a simple question, but then little ever is! First, all three battalions of infantry regiments 13-88 carried variations on the black and white flags you describe, apart from 1/33 and 1,2/34 which had the black and white reversed. If you want a bit of colour you want to look at the Hessen-Darmstadt regiments, the Saxon Regiments, and the small duchies IR89-90(Mecklenburg), 91 (Oldenburg), 92(Brunswick), 93(Anhalt), 94(Saxe-Weimar), 95(Thuringian States), and 96(Saxe-Altenburg, Reuss, and Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt). Many of these regiments flags are also on Pendraken sheets.  The first 12 regiments were grenadiers and,  many, if not most, of their flags were in tatters or totally eroded by 1870, they have the more colourful ones included in the current Pendraken sheet of which you speak.  The guard had a variety of flag types, from plain white, through to the black and white styles used by the rest of the infantry and, in a couple of the Guard Grenadier regiments, the remains of old Napoleonic flags.  As well as Pendraken (who I think may be about to add a new sheet of Prussian flags (Leon?)). Baccus make a range of 6mm flags which fit very well on 10mm figures flagpoles. I have used many of them myself!

Hope this is a start. Good luck!

Mollinary

Some Prussians with a coloured flag (blue and yellow), white, and black and white. Stopped being an "only this regiment may appear in this battle" fascist years ago. If it looks good I just use it, and if a wargame nerd moans I just contemptuously use bad language. It's only a game after all.

Ok. So X Corps will be a rainbow Corps. Brunswickers with their flag and Pendraken flags for each regiment.
Other Corps (Corpses ??) will be black/white.

It just depends which regiment ended up where!

Is there any source that describes flags regiment by regiment? I have the numbers

Give me the numbers and I'll find them for you.

Mollinary

After Wikipedia Order of battle for FPW war: Nos: 78, 91 (Oldenburg), 16, 57, 56, 79, 17
Brunswick Regiment (No. 92) - I have them.
I does not matter so much (units will be used in other battles as other regiments), but I would like to have one Corps correctly done.

Sorry BD, but it is not exactly a colourful corps, if you go for the correct flags. iR16 and 17 both have the first issue of the standard black and white flags. The central area with the eagle is orange, and all the decoration (crowns, wreaths, monograms) are in gold. IRs 56,57 and 78,79 all have the later variant with the monograms and crowns gold, and the wreaths mixed silver and green (look more silver than green). You already have the three Brunswick flags used in 1870, the Duke's and Battalion' flags of the 1st Line Battalion,  and the Duke's flag of the 3rd Line Battalion. That just leaves Oldenburg IR91 who carried one flag from 1822 and 2 from 1837.  These were identical on both sides, the only difference between the 22 and 37 models were the monograms, which were PFL in 1822 and PFA IN 1837. Not exactly a problem in this scale!  The field colour was cornflower blue, and they all had a gold fringe on the edges not attached to the pole. In the centre of the flag was a crowned "Wappenmantel" on which the ducal arms were displayed. These are very complicated. If you send me a message I can send you a black and white photo of the flag, and describe the colours of the individual sections.

Mollinary

We've done the Oldenberger flag discussion before
The Oldenburg crest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Deutsches_Reich_-_Grossherzogtum_Oldenburg.png
If you copy, paste and resize it from here or photo bucket.
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6071.30.html

And here is the version I made,

Quote from: mad lemmey on 29 September 2012, 04:30:09 PM
An hour of pratting about, this is as far as i have got with the flag, anyone want to take it further...  


Shrunk to .9cm high, it looks pretty decent, honest!  

Thanks for the link to the discussion. I would still go 1 shade of blue darker than Take 3 of the flag, but do not want to start the discussion on cornflower blue again.

No not the cornflower blue! Here's take 3.

And I've finally found my post where they are finished and reflagged!

Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 September 2012, 02:54:25 PM
Talking of the 91st Oldenburgers, here they are before I changed the flag:


And here it is after:


(Just of note, the one reference I came across for the flag says that by 1866 it was in tatters, lawd knows what it must have been like in 1870)

Nice touch Lemmey, Prussians need a touch of colour.

Certainly smartens up that base Lem.

If I can just hop in here and throw in my 2 cents regarding the Oldenburg Flag colour.

I've done some research into it both online and in my book collection and will present my findings into why I believe that the blue is in fact a darker blue rather than a genuine cornflower blue.

In the regimental history I have from 1898 I think I've found some of the most tantalizing description of the real color of the flag (Geschichte des Oldenburgischen Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 91.  by Frhr. von Puttkamer)

The Description of the flags is as follows, translated by me:

Each flag consists of a 3m long banner pole, in darkblue, flag tops (the metal bit on top), the standard, streamers, and tassels.

In the lower of the banner pole is a metal ring with unit designation, such as  "I.R. 91. I. B". The banner of the III. Battalion still uses the old identification "F.B" (Fusilier Battalion)

The flag tops carry the name of the founder of the regiment on one side and these are as follows:
    I. Battalion "P.F.L" (Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig)
    II. Battalion and III. Battalion "P.F.A" (Grossherzog Paul Friedrich August)

On the other side of the flag top is the Iron Cross which was presented by Kaiser Wilhelm I. in 1872.

The II. Battalion flag lost the entire flag top from a rifle round on August 16, 1870 in the battle of Vionville. The flag top was later renewed  

The flag top of the III. Battalion was bent after receiving a strike from a round on 15 January 1871 in the battle by Sille le Guillaum.  

There remains little of the standards. The standards were made from heavy blue silk and included the Oldenburger Coat of Arms from the time of presentation.  
  The territories that that were given to Oldenburg during the Vienna Congress of 1815 were only included on the Coat of Arms from 1829.  That means the coat of arms on the standard of the I. Battalion is  
  different than the coat of arms on the standards of the II. and III. Battalions.

The coat of arms had a mantle and crown above them. It also had a golden fringe on the edges.

The standard was fastened to the flag pole with brass nails. Beside each brass nail was an iron auxiliary nail.

Above the standard attached to the flag pole are two even 1/2 meter long gold tassels in the Oldenburger colors (blue-red). These are attached by a loop. On the same spot can be found two  1.5 meter long streamers. I. and II. Battalion were presented with these in 1842 by Grossherzogin Caecilie and the III. Battalion in 1863 by the Grossherzogin Elisabeth.  These streamers are white silk edged in gold stitching and attached by means of a loop.  They contain the names of the presenters in gold stitching. In addition each standard carries the award for the 1866 campaign, the Oldenburg'she Commemorative medal for 1866. The ribbon band for this medal is blue and red. As well, they carried the Prussian commemorative cross for the same campaign of 1866. These was on a black and yellow ribbon band which had a two crossed swords sewn on.

Each standard also carries 25th anniversary black, white, and red ribbon band for famous actions, presented by His majesty the Kaiser.
On these bands there is a golden bar with the name a battle that they took part in during the 1870/71 war.  From bottom to top:
Vionville-Mars la Tour,  Gravelotte-St. Privat (18. August), Metz, Diedenhofen (Thionville; only II. Battalion), Ladon & Maiziers, Beaune la Rolande, Orleans (3. 4. Dec), Beaugency-Cravant (10. Dec), Vendome (15. Dec; only I. and III), Villeporcher (only I.), Montoire les Roches, le Mans, (only I. and III.), Chassille (14. Jan only II.), Sille le Guillaume (only I. and III.) and St. Jean sur Erve (only II.)
 



But I think the best proof comes from Fiebig even if he mistates what color the blue was with his descriptions of the flags after they were renewed by Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1905. It should be noted at this point that the original and the renewed flags had the same image on both sides of the flag.
"When the flags were renewed, the old beautiful pattern was kept but with small changes. The cornflower blue standards received red wedges, the flags fringes were removed, the laurel branches became gold. The corner initials were rearranged to point inward. The corner initials now had two W.R and two times the previous initials, for example PFL for the I. Battalion, and PFA for II. and III. Battalions.

Included in Fiebigs book is also a color image of the renewed flag in the so called corn flower blue.



Finally I have some better images of the renewed standard which I contend continues the tradition of the original dark blue cloth colour that was found on the flag carried in 1866 and 1870.





As you can read, the regimental history only says it's a blue and not the  cornflower blue that is mentioned in Fiebig's Unsterbliche Treue. This idea that the blue is richer and deeper than a proper cornflower blue is also supported by the idea that the ribbon bands are using the same oldenburg color scheme that's found on the state's flag. The blue used by Oldenburg can be seen in these images too. I think that it might possibly have been called officially cornflower blue, but I think it was a much darker blue than what we consider cornflower blue. A similar situation in my mind as with the case of the cornflower blue of bavarian uniforms being darker on surviving uniforms from 1870 than those commonly illustrated in post 1870 images and in the FPW osprey book.





On that last image I mean to draw your attention the lance pennant.



Hopefully that wasn't too tedious for everyone!

Patrick