Hi chaps,

What suggestions do you have for using the LoA figures?

I've been looking at the new ECW set with cut out paper figures by Peter Dennis and it looks the right kind of level - simple but with period feel. It's not a period I know much about so would like the rules to guide the game to a period feel and result without the players needing to know the period too well.

I have Irregular Wars which might stretch this late - but these are more large skirmish rather than massed battle.

I suspect I am looking for a unit made of a few bases. 40mm square would be nice.

Thanks in advance.

What about Baroque. I think it caters for this period?...

Yes it does.

I like Pike and Shotte gives a good game in 3 hours

Cheers
Ian

Baroque for me, covers 1560-1700 - and there are official amendments in the pipeline to take them through WSS as well (I'm hoping that will give us GNW too)

Guys down the club say FOG R are really good for 17th century as well although I have never played them

I'd go FogR

Beneath The Billy Lily Banners is the only LoA specific rules I know of - but, whilst reasonably popular (see LoA blog and website), not everyone's cup of tea. 

I have not heard a single positive report for the above. FOGR are a good set, but far from simple. Pike and Shotte are a Black Powder derivative, thus they have a 'chatty' rulebook, which means crucial rules sometimes crop up in passing or are even where you'd least expect to fond them. Baroque are a very nice set, but only 3 bases to a unit, so not for those looking to mimic all sorts of formations (see FOGR for that).

First choice would be FoG R, second Baroque

Thanks chaps lots to look into.

Baroque sounds good, but I've looked at Impetus before and failed to under stand it. It's of interest that it covers ECW too. 

FoGR - from what I've read  about it, it sounds pretty complex and competitors orientated

Pike and Shotte - we have played lots of HC but really didn't get on with BP. Again these could be used earlier which is good. What is bad is the toolkit nature.   

How about Donnybrook by League of Ausberg

Hello

I've always liked playing with Victory Without Quarter, an ECW rule set (https://gcooksonblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/victory-without-quarter-rules.pdf). There is a forum at http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/fightingtalk/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=a484943db2f8a5ff1cba8380bc1c45c1 that may be able to help with modification. They are a simple and fun rule set, card based activation, etc. I was always going to tinker with them to bring them up to Siege of Vienna 1680s  but I needed to get one of these....



Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

I like Lily Banner.

Thanks GoM, VWQ look interesting - have printed a copy to peruse further. The idea of card activation appeals in theory. I will see how it feels in practise.

Beneath the Lily Banners - does anyone have a link to some favourable reviews - found 1 that was not too impressed - mainly due to lots of small turns, I think.

Donnybrook - this is smaller scale actions than I'm looking for.