Quote from: mart678 on 26 June 2016, 01:28:32 PM
Check out orbats on Battlefront WW2 forum very accurate orbats on there

Only if they coincide with the models battlefront make. Lots of silly things in them.

IanS

Ian Battlefront WWII is from the guys behind Fire and Fury not the FoW Battlefront. They share the name as they were going to work together on models and rules but Military Miniatures as were decided to go alone after a meeting with Phil Yates. So we've had a decade of confusion over the Battlefront name without taking in to account the computer game.

Upshot is the research behind the Battlefront WWII orbats is second to none especially if done by R Mark Davies and the 21.Panzer is. You do lose a bit of detail though with the 1:2 or 3 ratio used.

http://www.fireandfury.com/extra/ordersofbattle.shtml

Quote from: NTM on 22 May 2016, 12:48:57 PM
Any serious student of 21. Panzer in Normandy should probably get this book

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Combat-History-Panzer-Division-1943-45/dp/1907677712

Looks like a real goody - but at £47+ for the Hardcover (gulp!), you will have to be very seriously into 21 Panzer!

thanks all, managed to get a copy of The Combat History of the 21st Panzer Division for £21