Hey guys,

Got the new d&d boardgame (temple of elemental evil) delivered this morning. Now i started wondering, now that i have all 4 of the boardgames, i have a crapload of fantasy/d&d miniatures in 28mm. Would be a waste not to do some skirmish games with them!

Any one got some suggestions for nice (and cheap  ) rules for this? Song of blades and heroes is on sale on wargamevault at the moment, but wanted to see if there was something else. Looking especially something where i can put the 'd&d feel' in. Song of blade and heroes does that through the special rules i think, anyone got experience with them? It would of course be mostly heroes VS monsters.

Thanks in advance!

Songs of Blades and heroes is good. Its fairly simple but still has enough depth to it. It actually has a lot in common with Warband when it comes to mechanisms.

SOBH Seconded.

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Simple is good, means i can play it with the boy 

Anyway the bundle with the first 4 books, including the core book, is 25% off on wargame vault in case anyone is interested!

I like SoBH, but there's a whole slew of possible stuff - Mordheim has a living rule book, there's Frostgrave just come out. Possibly Dragon Rampant as/when it's released? The old D&D miniatures was fun, IIRC...

Maybe even the old Pendraken fantasy dungeon crawl rules? Not quite skirmish, but a simple dungeon delve, where the boy can play the whole party versus the monsters?

Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 July 2015, 07:09:17 PM
The old D&D miniatures was fun, IIRC...

What were those rules like? Map based?

Yes, they used the D&D map sheets gridded out in squares with a very simplified "not quite 3.5 era" rules set as a straight tactical combat game...

Interesting 

Will look at it when i get home from work

There's Swordplay from Two Hour Wargames.  It's an easy system and works great for solo,added bonus is it's free.

Bear in mind it uses the 2Hr Wargames reaction system so there's a very good chance won't do what you want once
battle commences.

http://www.twohourwargames.com/swordplay.html

Quote from: kodiakblair on 28 July 2015, 08:02:09 PM
There's Swordplay from Two Hour Wargames.  It's an easy system and works great for solo,added bonus is it's free.

Bear in mind it uses the 2Hr Wargames reaction system so there's a very good chance won't do what you want once
battle commences.

http://www.twohourwargames.com/swordplay.html

I have that one, but find it a bit confusing actually, Must read it again one time to see how it actually works.

I hear GW have just released new fantasy skirmish rules... and they're free 

(they are also crap)

Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 28 July 2015, 09:22:45 PM
I hear GW have just released new fantasy skirmish rules... and they're free 

(they are also crap)

I asked for a skirmish game, not a central table mosh pit 

Savage Worlds' Showdown, click on the link here for the FREE pdf: https://www.peginc.com/product-category/savage-worlds/ or here direct to the pdf: https://www.peginc.com/freebies/Showdown/Showdown.pdf

Must admit I haven't used the Showdown rules per se, but have used the RPG rules for moderately complex combats. 

Showdown is basically a stripped-down version of the RPG, missing the skills and other less relevant systems. 

Cheers!

Meirion

Hello pc

From the Free Wargame Rules Wiki:-

http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/Fantasy_Skirmish
http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/GROMM_Fantasy_Skirmish
http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/One_Page_Skirmish

All look like reasonably simple Fantasy skirmish systems.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Thanks all!

Much to look through!

Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 28 July 2015, 09:22:45 PM
I hear GW have just released new fantasy skirmish rules... and they're free 

(they are also crap)

Are we not a fan, Matt....? 

The more i think about this, the more i want to make my own rules. They all have something i like, but none seem to be exactly what i want 

And no buying rules means buying more minis doesn't it 

On AoS -

I don't know about crap - they looked fast and furious and from reports of play if you enter into the spirit of them, you'll like them and if not... it's almost a harking back to the glorious old days of 1st ed./OldHammer with the emphasis on "make it up yourself and have a bash", completely unbalanced units/gear/troops and an attitude of "it looked fun so why not, here's a hidden joke about Bryan Ansell or Thatcher" instead of proscriptive, po-faced mega costly army lists OF THE ONE TRUE WAY.

That said I'm not sure if it's actually just a really lazy way to avoid "wasting" time and money on actually developing a world, background and rules... and an easy "conversion" to the much more successful "sales template" of W40k...

I'd hope the former, but am pretty convinced it's the latter.

On writing your own rules -

Yeah, more money for lead but less time after you factor in the endless tinkering to get it "just right"

The old  ICE Bladestorm rules have just been re released. I remember them being pretty good

Ooo - would Osprey's "Of Gods and Mortals" be of use? It's a SoBH reworking with errr, Gods and Heroes and Mortals...