Are they graven images, Phil? If so, I'm afraid you've had it, mate. 

Nope !......I'm safe. 
Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 12 March 2015, 10:35:17 AM
As far as making images is concerned.....Can someone tell me if I'm a heretic, or not !
Cheers - Phil.

No - you cant make any human image according to the Koran. Mind you it is as contradictory as the old testament.

IanS

There's shed loads of "Islamic" images with human figures, animals etc. It wasn't much of an issue if it was secular art, just the whole "graven images thing" and "false idols" that was at issue (much like the frequent iconoclasm of Christian tradition, esp. Byzantine). of course, the "fun is banned" brigade have used it as an excuse to control people to the extent where some are happy to murder people for doodling.

I'm doomed....I'm doomed ! 
Cheers - Mr Anonymous, who has gone into hiding.

Do you worhsop the sculpts, like some altar to a dark overlord?! Do you get more and more of them, like some obession?

Do... oh. Wait. I see what you mean.

Weeeee'reee aaaalll doooooooooooomed Mr. Leon sir!

The person you are trying to get to post, is not available, at present.
Please leave your message after the tone, and he'll completely ignore you, until his hideout has been pumped clear of rainwater.
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Cheers - Someone who bears an uncanny resemblance to 'Techno'...But isn't him at all.

Well...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

— Exodus 20:4-6 (KJV)

From this the Christians draw their third commandment; 'Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image'.

Which, like so much of their book, they pretty much ignore.
I mean these Bronze Age texts are only the unchallengable word of god (if you believe that sort of thing) so why wouldn't you pick out the bits you like and ignore the bits you don't?

Apparently a lot of Christians think that hating homosexuals, and denigrating women to be subordinate to men is important, yet giving away all their worldly possessions to the poor and abadoning their families to follow Jesus...yeah not so much...


So on the graven image problem Techno...I think you're pretty safe.

Unless you're planning to make one of Mohammed?  Then you're in for a pretty rough time...    

Quote"From this the Christians draw their third commandment; 'Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image'.

Which, like so much of their book, they pretty much ignore."

Unless you're a Byzantine iconoclast, in which case it's a burnin' time!

Can i just say...

This is probably the only forum in the world where a discussion like this has got this far without...



Well done chaps!   

Faith can move mountains .... she's a big strong girl!!

Is this the very first time I've had to find your coat, I ?
Cheers - Not Phil

Normally wears a plaid, doesn't he?

Didn't think we had any coat-virgins amongst our regulars. 

Quote from: Hertsblue on 13 March 2015, 09:22:32 AM
Didn't think we had any coat-virgins amongst our regulars. 

Well I've taken several coats to bed. But only when it's cold.

IanS