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Religion poison's everything.

For Allah these barbarians are butchering people, beheading 11 year olds on video, murdering, and ravaging the populations they capture.

So why is the smashing of ancient sites, art, and statues so terrible?

Because of this...

"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past."
― George Orwell, 1984

IS controls the present in an area.
They destroy the evidence of the past, on order to control the future.

No city ever falls to the barbarians unless someone holds open the gates for them.  The apologists, and religious 'moderates' (in all faiths) are the ones holding open the gates to these savages.

Salman Rushdie's death is suborned by the Ayatollahs...the Archbishop of Canterbury condemns Rushdie for blasphemy.

Denmark, its embassies, and its people are attacked by Muslims everywhere because a cartoonist draws a picture.  The Archbishop of Canterbury condemns the cartoonist for blasphemy.

The employees of Charlie Ebdo are murdered for publishing satire and cartoons.  The Archbishop of Canterbury condemns the cartoonists for blasphemy.

Muslims murder and spread hate, and the 'moderates' say those ones aren't Muslim.

Christians murder and spread hate, and the 'moderates' say those ones aren't Christian.

Bad ideas, religious, political, or otherwise cause this hatred and brutality.

Enough is enough.

We need more good ideas, and more people uinwilling to hold and act on bad ideas.

Let's start with the Golden Rule.

Islam is a murdering violent ideology, Christianity isn't...

(No matter what the usual moral-equivalent lefties try to assume)

QED

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 06 March 2015, 01:58:14 PM
Islam is a murdering violent ideology, Christianity isn't...

(No matter what the usual moral-equivalent lefties try to assume)

QED

So no one ever said kill them and let god sort it out. Religion is a complete con, of what ever type. Christianity, Islam and Judaism use the same base text, and add their own fictions to it.

IanS

As KM said, "Religion is the opiate of the nobheads." Well, he would have done if he'd been a scouser.

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 06 March 2015, 01:58:14 PM
Islam is a murdering violent ideology, Christianity isn't...

(No matter what the usual moral-equivalent lefties try to assume)

QED

The last 2000 years give the lie to that.

Mind, they give the lie to that for every "religion". Even Buddhism is pretty grim. The actions the Tibetans took under the Dalai Llamas rule were nasty. Can't spill blood? Tie people in leather sacks and beat them to death!

Religion is a human invention designed for social control. The problem is that a great many people are happy to be subjected to that sort of control. It gives them a secure feeling of belonging to the group that is self evidently "right." One group of people I was a bit suspicious of as a youngster and now have absolutely no time for is missionaries. Wish they'd all been boiled and eaten.

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 06 March 2015, 01:58:14 PM
Islam is a murdering violent ideology, Christianity isn't...

(No matter what the usual moral-equivalent lefties try to assume)

QED

Erm...Crusades, Catholic priests, several British occupations...and so on.

Religion is fine, nutters are nutters!

The evil will always find an ideology to justify their actions.

Can we just make sure that this doesn't go too far downhill, chaps !
Politics and religion just seem like sure ways to stoke up a bit of bad feeling.

Cheers - Phil.

and its Friday 

Quote from: Techno on 06 March 2015, 03:12:51 PM
Can we just make sure that this doesn't go too far downhill, chaps !
Politics and religion just seem like sure ways to stoke up a bit of bad feeling.

Cheers - Phil.

Hear! Hear!

I think we are all saying the same thing regardless of our own political or religeous beliefs we have no time for those that seem to delight in causing pain and misery on others for any reason.

Amen to that

Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 March 2015, 11:29:48 AM
Another up-note: a Pakistani colleague tells me there's widespread condemnation of that vandalising of statues of the Buddha in her home country, and moves are afoot to reassemble them. Let's hope.

Yet these positive stories usually fail to make the western press as it does not fit with their stereotyping and scaremongering agenda.

cheers
Ian

Quote from: Sandinista on 06 March 2015, 05:27:33 PM
Yet these positive stories usually fail to make the western press as it does not fit with their stereotyping and scaremongering agenda.

cheers
Ian

Yep!  That's all; yep!

Every war needs religious screen to fuel mindless cannon foddler followers and hide economics reasons who unleash the strugles, imho. Despite that, is horrible to say so many precious, delicate and important humanity treasures destroyed for religious propaganda. All fanatics must die!

Please, excuse me about my poor english, but I would to say my opinion.