Brigade Pack - Idea for you

[Hertsblue]

Bearing in mind that there are so many different periods and even more varieties of rules, wouldn't it be simpler just to give discounts on bulk purchases? For example, 10% off orders over £100. That would give the purchaser the freedom to choose whatever fitted with his rules/organisation whilst offering an incentive to buy in quantity. Like most people I have a entire drawerful of leftover figures from various periods. Buying fixed organisational quantities is only going to compound the problem.

[quasar42]

Yep, a straight volume discount would provide maximum flexibility while rewarding larger purchases. If you want to use the discount to move slower items, army packs are the way to go. 

[fateeore]

Yep, that's them.  We could never call them Warmaster armies for fear of the GW stompy machine...

These days a GW C&D appears to be a useful marketing tool.

Though I take on board why you don't want to have to deal with the hassle.

[kustenjaeger]

Greetings

I normally find I can use army packs pretty well.  The exceptions are usually multiple packs where I may not need all the Prussian 1870 jager for example. 

Taking the 1809 packs I will end up with 2 x Austro-Hungarian and 2 x Austrian which will give me:
(a) 6x German and 6x Hungarian fusilier battalions in two brigades, 2x grenadier battalions (one Hungarian, one German), 
(b) a wing (4 squadrons) of Chevaulegers and a regiment of dragoons (or some mix thereof as the figure does for both)
(c) the 6# guns (excluding howitzers) for 2 brigade batteries and 2 position batteries. 
To that I have/will add some high command, mounted officers, Grenzers, howitzers, limbers and in due course will add 12# guns, Hussars, Uhlans, probably Erzhog Karl Legion, Landwehr, Jagers and possibly Cuirassiers.  The real issue will be painting them given I've got my SYW to break the back of first.

Regards

Edward   

[Leon]

Bearing in mind that there are so many different periods and even more varieties of rules, wouldn't it be simpler just to give discounts on bulk purchases? For example, 10% off orders over £100.

We do unofficially offer people some bonus freebies on bigger orders, but it's all done manually, as it's not coded into the website.  It depends what you order as well, as things like the big BKC packs are already discounted by 15%, so having an automated discount in place would knock another 10% of those when bought in bulk. 

[Chad]

As has been said the various periods and rules
could make the idea very hard to manage.

Also brigades in the early 18th century were largely
ad hoc formations and not of a permanent nature. The
late Napoleonic period could also prove difficult
given the small size of units after campaign losses.

Chad

[Orcs]

I find that most army packs are not exactly what I want. I end up adding to it from the single packs.  Even the 1000 point armies may not fit in with the foeces you wantn to field.  As Leon says this is a minefield.

The issue with larger packs is even with the significant 15% discount on a BKC army pack, it only needs to have a pack or two or a couple of vehicles you do not need to nullify any saving made.

Obviously in this months sale the saving is about 25%, due in part to the labour involved in repackaging the said Armies, however in general this was on a purchase of £100 retail

The question I would ask is

Does a saving of 10-15% on an Army pack actually get you to buy a pack you would not have bought at normal price?

While this saving is nice to the individual it is worth remembering this is money effectively taken out of Dave and Leons pockets.  Who I think we all appreciate are working a lot of hours for the money they recieve.

We all agree that we recive excellent service and value from Pendraken at the normal retail price, so should we be really looking for a discount on a relatively small purchase? 



As per a previous thread - I personaly think as wargamers we are being subsidised.

[Last Hussar]

I don't tend to buy army packs for the very reason the stuff I don't want nullifies the saving.  I wasn't suggesting 'Brigade Packs' are discounted - I just thought it might be a promo headline "This code contains all you need for a command".  Thinking about it it doesn't need extra resources, either on line or at a show - it is just a set collection of packs.

Like I say, just a passing idea.

[MR T]

Just idea? But since you are doing 4-3 on army packs. Why not something on the packs say, 10 packs one free or something like that.  Buy so many tanks and get command tank free etc. 

[get2grips]

Just idea? But since you are doing 4-3 on army packs. Why not something on the packs say, 10 packs one free or something like that.  Buy so many tanks and get command tank free etc. 

Do you fly?

[Last Hussar]

Just out of interest, how are the mould laid out - is 1 pack usually one shot?  I ask because the army packs often contain 1/2 packs.  Is this less economical?

[get2grips]

Just out of interest, how are the mould laid out - is 1 pack usually one shot?  I ask because the army packs often contain 1/2 packs.  Is this less economical?

I would love to know the answer to this...

Not for financial reasons: I think your product is really good value.  But because I'm interested in the whole mold, production, melting, metally, thingness of it

[Leon]

Each mould usually contains a full pack, with a few spares, so 35-36 foot figures, and 15-18 cavalry.  1/2 packs are usually not much hassle, as we keep the other half as spares for the next time.

[Ithoriel]

Personally I tend to get "army" packs plus add-ons for most ranges I get.

For example, the Peter Pig platoon pack plus some add on packs of figures for CoC or Pendraken battle packs for WW2 Eastern Front plus a shed load of add=ons!!.

The extras become conversion fodder. If I have an idea for a conversion and it doesn't quite work, well I wasn't going to use the figure anyway.

[andys]

Being half scot/half Yorkshire, it makes me wonder if any spare figures we have could be traded in for others. Say on a two or three for one basis to cover the factory's costs? A way to get rid of all the unused odds and ends we've all doubtless got lying around!

[MR T]

Sorry just realised when i meant packs. I meant  the standard 30 figure pack, not the army pack doh!

[get2grips]

Being half scot/half Yorkshire, it makes me wonder if any spare figures we have could be traded in for others. Say on a two or three for one basis to cover the factory's costs? A way to get rid of all the unused odds and ends we've all doubtless got lying around!

I reckon to cover costs it would be nearer 10:1 in PD's favour 

[conster]

personally i like to buy packs i enjoy going thru lists making orders waiting for the postman one day i may even wargame with them

[Hertsblue]

personally i like to buy packs i enjoy going thru lists making orders waiting for the postman one day i may even wargame with them

I don't think you're alone there, Conster.