Brigade Pack - Idea for you

Started by Last Hussar, 22 January 2014, 12:41:55 AM

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Last Hussar

You do army packs.  Have you considered doing similar but set units.

eg WSS
1 pack command
1 Pack grenadiers
4 Packs Musketeers

This gives 5 36 man battalions- two command groups (so 1 Kings Standard, 1 Regimental), 6 Grenadiers on the right flank and 24 Musketeers.  This gives a frontage of 18, 2 deep- this is how I have mine

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Obviously different make up for different armies/periods.

This provides a nice solid core to an army

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Leon

We do chat about different compositions for the army packs regularly, but there's never been something which seemed to 'fit' all the periods nicely.  The current ones aren't made up to any particular set of rules or army list, but they do give a good starting point for anyone to get going with.  Then folk can add the extra bits and pieces around them.

The most recent discussion was about whether bigger packs would sell, 'Battle packs' almost.  The idea would be to take two opposing armies, eg ACW Union / Confed, Repub Romans / Carthage, etc. and make a slightly bigger pair of armies, some buildings, flags, bases maybe, etc.  Package it all up nicely in a big box and price it with a nice discount on.
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Sandinista

Quote from: Leon on 22 January 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Package it all up nicely in a big box and price it with a nice discount on.

To tempt independent game shops to stock them?

Hertsblue

Quote from: Sandinista on 22 January 2014, 07:19:51 AM
To tempt independent game shops to stock them?

Aren't you then into extra expense for fancy retail packaging?
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fateeore

I like the brigade idea, especially if there were infantry packs and cavalry packs.

Fenton

It might be worth getting 1000pt warmaster armies together in one box


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pleas don't think me being silly but what is warmaster?

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Warmaster is an old fantasy GW game by Rick Priestley. It was then developed into Warmaster Ancients, the historical version. The former is available as a free download IIRC. Hail Caesar is arguably the latest development of Warmaster. Hope this helps?

Leon

Quote from: Fenton on 22 January 2014, 03:00:20 PM
It might be worth getting 1000pt warmaster armies together in one box

We do those already, and have taken them to the shows for years.  The problem was that they sold so slowly that it wasn't worth carrying them about everywhere.  I don't know if that was due to people not using those rules anymore, or the higher price tag being a factor, not sure.
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Nirnman

Thanks for that information. Up to now my hands haven't been sullied by any GW games tho I have used their paints when nothing else was available. Hey just noticed I've been promoted to second lieutenant  whoopee! Also I would second Last Hussar's idea about brigade packs. esp the WSS one It would fit in nicely with the first ever rules I used more years ago than I care to remember. where each battalion had five blocks of figures so 36 (24musketeers +6 grenadiers) would mean that each brigade would have five battalions of musketeers and one of combined grenadiers perfect.

get2grips

Quote from: Nirnman on 22 January 2014, 06:40:00 PM
Hey just noticed I've been promoted to second lieutenant  whoopee! Also I would second Last Hussar's idea about brigade

Congratulations Nirman ;)

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Genom

I picked up one of the Arab army packs at Carronade one year as the starting point for a warmaster army as the number of miniatures in the range was smaller so it made sense to get them that way, but all my WW2 Germans I've ordered the big army packs via the website after sitting down, working out the contents and sorting out my army lists to see what I can get in bulk and what I need to pick up separately, and occasionally picked up some odds and ends off the stall at Carronade or Claymore.

But Brigade packs would be ideal, I know it's more difficult to try and sort that out for different periods/systems, but likewise I'm fairly sold on Pendraken for the majority of my stuff now so when I get round to my next project a big army pack or being able to pick and choose from a set of Brigade type packs would be great. (even if it's just available from the website)

Last Hussar

I suggested it because the 'Army packs' I find are too broad, a bit of everything, so you end up with bits left over.

That composition was just a suggestion, based partly on what I did, but also heavily influenced by the maths to give complete packs - it is actually 6 x 6 man bases multiplied up to use all the figures in the command pack.  6 figure fit nicely on a 20mm - 1 inch base, and I find a 36 man battalion pleasing to the eye - it seems the right proportion.

It was suggested as a way to tempt rather than a suggestion of discount, but you could do a deal - buy a Division (2 x Infantry Brigade, 1 Cavalry, 2 packs of  Artillery,  and you'll throw in the 4 Generals free.
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Ithoriel

Quote from: Last Hussar on 22 January 2014, 08:16:19 PM
I suggested it because the 'Army packs' I find are too broad, a bit of everything, so you end up with bits left over.

Those aren't "bits left over" they're "inspiration for conversions" :)
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