Price Rises and the Community

Started by sebigboss79, 16 January 2014, 09:00:14 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Leon

I've merged the two threads together, easier to keep the discussion in one thread.

8)
www.pendraken.co.uk - Now home to over 10,000 products, including nearly 5000 items for 10mm wargaming, plus MDF bases, Battlescale buildings, I-94 decals, Litko Gaming Aids, Militia Miniatures, Raiden Miniatures 1/285th aircraft, Red Vectors MDF products, Vallejo paints, Tiny Tin Troops flags and much, much more!

get2grips


Fenton

Well I think if EE they did better  advertising they may get new customers. I think I have seen all those those adverts with Kevin Bacon in them I haven't seen 40K mentioned once!
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

get2grips

Quote from: Fenton on 18 January 2014, 09:50:25 PM
Well I think if EE they did better  advertising they may get new customers. I think I have seen all those those adverts with Kevin Bacon in them I haven't seen 40K mentioned once!

I think they prefer word of mouth...hmm... :-\

That's a problem isn't it...

sebigboss79

Quote from: get2grips on 18 January 2014, 09:54:41 PM
I think they prefer word of mouth...hmm... :-\

That's a problem isn't it...

If word of mouth includes:

-overpriced
-unfriendly
-incompetent
-crap
-unbalanced
-overpowered

then yes, very much so.

Problem is they really work against their fans so...

Leon

Is is true that they closed their Facebook and Twitter accounts due to the negative comments they were attracting?
www.pendraken.co.uk - Now home to over 10,000 products, including nearly 5000 items for 10mm wargaming, plus MDF bases, Battlescale buildings, I-94 decals, Litko Gaming Aids, Militia Miniatures, Raiden Miniatures 1/285th aircraft, Red Vectors MDF products, Vallejo paints, Tiny Tin Troops flags and much, much more!

sebigboss79


Leon

Quote from: sebigboss79 on 18 January 2014, 11:15:30 PM
Yes! More details in PM?

Well that says a lot about their whole mentality.  If you're attracting that much negative attention, then there's probably something you should be looking at as a business.  Instead, they've chosen to stick their heads in the sand and ignore it?  And close down their whole social networking side, potentially one of the most valuable assets for a business these days?
www.pendraken.co.uk - Now home to over 10,000 products, including nearly 5000 items for 10mm wargaming, plus MDF bases, Battlescale buildings, I-94 decals, Litko Gaming Aids, Militia Miniatures, Raiden Miniatures 1/285th aircraft, Red Vectors MDF products, Vallejo paints, Tiny Tin Troops flags and much, much more!

sebigboss79

18 January 2014, 11:34:39 PM #53 Last Edit: 18 January 2014, 11:38:06 PM by sebigboss79
Quote from: Leon on 18 January 2014, 11:24:16 PM
Well that says a lot about their whole mentality.  If you're attracting that much negative attention, then there's probably something you should be looking at as a business.  Instead, they've chosen to stick their heads in the sand and ignore it?  And close down their whole social networking side, potentially one of the most valuable assets for a business these days?

Correct.

In short:

Some author in the US wrote a book containing the Word Spehs Marihn and EE's legal team got to work. That author published this in her blog, the US author's guild stepped in and threatened to sue GW over said term. Apparently said term had been used in the 1920s and the rights of this particular work would come to bear. Now imagine some crazy judge coming to the conclusion that first use is NOT EE and EE loses the right to sell Spehs Marihns in the land of the free. EE dropped the matter very quickly.

Via FB GW HQ got a real shytstorm and started blocking people like there is no tomorrow. When the Orc had blisters on his/her hands from all that blocking they closed their FB account claiming that any query should be posted to the local store's FB account. The shytstorm continued and GW blocked people again.

One of my friends had been collecting since Rogue Trader and was kicked out of a store for using his old RT Spehs Marihns, I was kicked out for using a non-EE superglue. The fact I had just bought 100 quid worth of their products was not put into consideration and said goods returned on the spot. (Neither my money NOR goods)

As you correctly state social media is a powerful weapon in the business, too bad if you are using it to shoot your foot off. Alienating the whole fanbase, sueing people for no good reason etc. surely pays - as we can see.

Try to find the mastermini blog. The guy did a great analysis. He calls it the EE Management bubble and "black snow".

Orcs

Quote from: Leon on 18 January 2014, 11:24:16 PM
And close down their whole social networking side, potentially one of the most valuable assets for a business these days?

Social Networking !!!!  A bloody waste of time - You would never catch me on a Social networking site  ;D
The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Leon

I remember all the Space Marine TM nonsense, I hadn't realised they'd had to drop their Facebook as a result of it.   =)

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 18 January 2014, 11:37:40 PM
Social Networking !!!!  A bloody waste of time - You would never catch me on a Social networking site  ;D

I'm not sure if you're their target market to be honest...  ;D
www.pendraken.co.uk - Now home to over 10,000 products, including nearly 5000 items for 10mm wargaming, plus MDF bases, Battlescale buildings, I-94 decals, Litko Gaming Aids, Militia Miniatures, Raiden Miniatures 1/285th aircraft, Red Vectors MDF products, Vallejo paints, Tiny Tin Troops flags and much, much more!

Ithoriel

Quote from: Leon on 19 January 2014, 12:24:58 AM
I'm not sure if you're their target market to be honest...  ;D

Yes ... if he had a twin called "Lots 'n lots of orcs" then they might be interested in him though :)
There are 100 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who can work from incomplete data

Techno

Quote from: get2grips on 18 January 2014, 09:21:20 PM
Tech clone :)

I haven't got one ! :P

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 18 January 2014, 11:37:40 PM
Social Networking !!!!  A bloody waste of time - You would never catch me on a Social networking site  ;D

Me neither.  :D

But to go back to the point of the thread...It'll be interesting to see what transpires over the next few weeks.
My money's on a range of store closures first.

Cheers - Phil.


get2grips

Quote from: Ithoriel on 19 January 2014, 05:29:04 AM
Yes ... if he had a twin called "Lots 'n lots of orcs" then they might be interested in him though :)

=O =O =O

sebigboss79

Quote from: Techno on 19 January 2014, 08:40:32 AM
I haven't got one ! :P

Me neither.  :D

But to go back to the point of the thread...It'll be interesting to see what transpires over the next few weeks.
My money's on a range of store closures first.

Cheers - Phil.



Already announced. HQs in Continental Europe are shut down and bigger stores replaced with 1-man stores. Wondering how this one guy is supposed to introduce new gamers while operating the till for sales. Management thinking - doh....

From time to time management brainfarts should be tempered with reality (Roland changing Neru's famous quote)