What colour Cats and Flags for ECW generals

Started by Last Hussar, 05 December 2025, 01:52:35 PM

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Radar

06 December 2025, 04:35:02 PM #20 Last Edit: 06 December 2025, 05:27:02 PM by Radar
Apparently I know some stuff about this. Allegedly my inane rambling about C17th military clothing is to be published, something I find mildly amusing.

You have 2 options. You could go the flamboyant route and use contemporary portraits as your inspiration. Or you could go the Occam's Razor route and give them buff coats. Thomas Fairfax famously found himself in the wrong place on a battlefield and simply removed his sash to return to where he should have been (which is strongly suggestive of him wearing boring buff).

If you want to know what a contemporary colour palette looks like see https://www.keepyourpowderdry.co.uk/2018/06/what-colours-to-use.html which roughly translates to (CdA and Foundry) paint colours https://www.keepyourpowderdry.co.uk/2019/11/what-colours-to-use-part-2-paint.html

Flags? Only Charles and Rupert are known to have had personal banners. But don't let that get in the way of your toy soldiers (I haven't). Most men of note were colonels of horse - I've used their personal troop cornets as commander's flags. See the new and improved BCW regimental wiki for flag images. If no flags are shown or just described on there, let me know and I'll see if I have anything in my enormous pile of books, and will send you a picture.

Cats - big cat and fluffy cat advise me that I have to tell you that their forebears wore whatever the flip they wanted, as they were cats. And cats are the true rulers of the world.
Can bore for England on the subject of clothing issue during the Wars of the 3 Kingdoms. So probably best to avoid the subject. You have been warned.

Radar

Quote from: DHautpol on 05 December 2025, 04:36:39 PM<stuff here>
 I've also seen one illustration showing a standard for Prince Rupert, but can't say if it was conjecture.

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Rupert's banner was 14 feet long, well documented. Captured at Edgehill iirc
Can bore for England on the subject of clothing issue during the Wars of the 3 Kingdoms. So probably best to avoid the subject. You have been warned.

Radar

Quote from: Radar on 06 December 2025, 04:39:06 PMRupert's banner was 14 feet long, well documented. Captured at Edgehill iirc

Silly me. Described as neare fifteen feet long at 1st Newbury, it would be captured at Marston Moor. It was Charlie's banner, aka the Royal Standard, that was taken at Edgehill.
Can bore for England on the subject of clothing issue during the Wars of the 3 Kingdoms. So probably best to avoid the subject. You have been warned.

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QuoteSilly me. Described as neare fifteen feet long at 1st Newbury, it would be captured at Marston Moor. It was Charlie's banner, aka the Royal Standard, that was taken at Edgehill.
The Royal Standard was only temporarily in Parliament hands, it was recaptured before the end of the battle.
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Radar

...and certainly had a run out at 1st Newbury where it was described in eye witness accounts.

For those that don't know, the story of Verney's severed hand still holding the standard was a Victorian embellishment, first appearing in 1892.
Can bore for England on the subject of clothing issue during the Wars of the 3 Kingdoms. So probably best to avoid the subject. You have been warned.