CWC II ETA?

[Big Insect]

are we there yet?

Sigh! sadly not ... stuck in a 40 mile tail-back on the M1 northbound just after Watford Gap services - and we've eaten all the white bread, margarine and spam sandwiches in the Tupperware box already - so we'll just have to sing another song (again) or play a game of pub-sign cricket to keep you all occupied.

[Ithoriel]

#The wheels on the bus go round and round ....#

[flamingpig0]

I don't know why I am getting excited about CWC II, it's not as if I know anyone local who plays post ww2 conflicts.

[Big Insect]

I don't know why I am getting excited about CWC II, it's not as if I know anyone local who plays post ww2 conflicts.

Good to hear that you are 'excited' about it though.
It will of course be a brand-new format, glossy CWCII - with lots of added extras and more vehicle stats than ever (to get wrong and argue over - of course) many more than WW2.

But I am not looking forward to the Errata phase at all 
(PS: I might be on holiday at that time ... for a very long time!)

[Raider4]

Sigh! sadly not ... stuck in a 40 mile tail-back on the M1 northbound just after Watford Gap services . . .  or play a game of pub-sign cricket to keep you all occupied.

On the motorway? That might be a long game . . .

[Battleback]

I'm excited as well, I guess mainly because it's a period I've never played and I really enjoy BKC4. I'll probably just stick to the early to mid period of the cold war, I don't have much interest in more modern conflicts. Looking forward to getting my hands on the book.

Question, Will there be a pre-order?

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[Big Insect]

I'm excited as well, I guess mainly because it's a period I've never played and I really enjoy BKC4. I'll probably just stick to the early to mid period of the cold war, I don't have much interest in more modern conflicts. Looking forward to getting my hands on the book.

Question, Will there be a pre-order?

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When you say early-to-mid - what time frame are you looking at? I'm interested as I have looked at 'banding' the period into an early mid and late, partly to cover the introduction and proliferation of certain weapons and armour. The pre- T72/Challenger/Abrahams era certainly gives you more 'toys' to play with on table, as the cost of these wee-beasties is significant.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

I suspect you meant T80 in your last post Mark, T64/72 are mid to late 60's.

[Battleback]

When you say early-to-mid - what time frame are you looking at? I'm interested as I have looked at 'banding' the period into an early mid and late, partly to cover the introduction and proliferation of certain weapons and armour. The pre- T72/Challenger/Abrahams era certainly gives you more 'toys' to play with on table, as the cost of these wee-beasties is significant.

I don't know a lot about the Cold War and I'm sure others will have a better idea about this but to me this is what comes to my mind to break up the periods.

Early - basically post WW2, Korean War through to early Vietnam War.

Mid War - About mid Vietnam War to the early 80's

Late War - would be when we start seeing early versions of the modern tanks like the Abrams. So the early/mid 80's to early 90's.

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[Big Insect]

Sounds very much where my thinking was going Battleback

And yes I meant T80 (not T70) 

[Battleback]

Sounds very much where my thinking was going Battleback

And yes I meant T80 (not T70) 

I think it makes sense to break up the periods in the rules. It seems there are 3 distinct levels of technology when it comes to the cold war. And breaking it up will make setting up games easier.

I look forward to reading the rules! I would definitely buy into a pre-order if Leon decides to do one; especially if it included a Patton tank 😉

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[Raider4]

Basically breaking it down to whether the British were fielding Centurion, Chieftain or Challenger then?

[Big Insect]

pretty much yes

[flamingpig0]

Do the new rules go up to the 1st  Gulf War and si it going to include army lists or will the army lists be online?

[Leon]

I think the plan is to cut off around 1990 but there will be lists available for the 1st Gulf War.  The lists will all be online downloads rather than in the book, so we can add and edit those whenever needed.

[fred.]

I think the plan is to cut off around 1990 but there will be lists available for the 1st Gulf War.  The lists will all be online downloads rather than in the book, so we can add and edit those whenever needed.

Can I suggest that you include a few lists in the book - mainly from the ability to provide a complete package in one book?

I get that having the majority of the army lists online makes a lot of sense - for a lot of reasons - but its a bit disappointing to get a nice new rule book and then not have any example army lists to use as reference whilst you are going through the rules.

[Steve J]

I'd agree with having a few lists in the book, say Vietnam, one of the Arab-Israeli Wars and the 'classic' 1980's Cold War core forces.

[paulr]

I'd agree with having a few lists in the book, say Vietnam, one of the Arab-Israeli Wars and the 'classic' 1980's Cold War core forces.

So a few = at least 15

The challenge is once you add one or two there are so many more people would want...

[Ithoriel]

For me, the attraction of BKC was the "all in one book" approach.

Printed rules with online army lists would definitely turn me off.

There again the period to be covered by CWC doesn't interest me so I guess I am not the target audience.

[fred.]

By a few, I meant the main lists for one conflict. Not list for multiple conflicts.