What new periods would you like try in 10mm?

[Orcs]

The Arabs really had little to do with the Crusades as a whole; after the Fatimids they were little but auxiliaries and mercenaries.

Yes you are correct FK.  I should have been more correct, meaning a   Fatamids / Ayyubids range

[Sunray]

For me, yes but c.1962. Most cold-war-gone-hot seems to be centered on post-1980 (I suspect because the US suddenly get some sexy kit - M1, MLRS, etc.)

Good point.   The post 1980 era was a time of very high tensions in US - Soviet relations.   The most serious was the misunderstanding around Exercise Able Archer in 1983 (I remember it well!). 

These 'recent' memories, corresponding with the publication of war game rules for Cold War and - as you say, sexy kit- eclipse the earlier Cold War era.  Like the Soviet invasions/intervention of East Germany (1953), the Pozana (Polish) and Hungarian Uprisings of 1956  and the Prague Spring of 1968.  To these uprisings that begin with unrest and could have led to conventional confrontation, you can add the Cuba crisis/ USS Beale incident of 1962.

Like Korean these 1950s and indeed early 60s games can be played with WW2 and - with a few amendments- BKC rules.    The game changer for me is the innovation of wire guided missiles on the killing ground. Mind you the SS 10 and the Vigilant are around from the late 1950s. 

[fsn]

So far, I make it (in no particular order):

• 4 Biblicals
• 2 Chinese
• 3 Revolutionary Wars
• 1 Mexican Revolution 1830
• 1 Mexican Revolution 1910
• 1 Byzantines
• 1 Carlist Wars
• 1 Crusader Opponents
• 1 Balkan Wars
• 3 Elizabethan (world wide)
• 1 Spanish American War 1898 
• 1 Touregs 
• 2 Napoleonics of various types 
• 1 Early Cold War 
• 3 Late Cold War
• 1 War of 1812
• 1 WWII Armed Civvies
• 2 Weird War II
• 2 Medieval

There's nothing like consistency ... and that's nothing like consistency.

If you take the question at it's original formulation, for new periods and so dispense with those mentioned that are additions to existing ranges, then I would opine it's Biblicals and Elizabethans. I've excluded late Cold War as they do appear on the project list for 2019.

[Sunray]

Useful summary Stuart - many thanks.

Let's allow it to run a while and perhaps (?) attract comment from more of 2,000 + members who frequent this forum.

TMP have run a similar survey - only couched as "periods you were least likely to game" and not specific to 10mm.

In an earlier thread I asked why gamers were attracted to 10mm. I wonder how many gamers end up in a period because they saw the eye candy on the Pendraken stall at a show, and Dave beguiled them ?

[mmcv]

I'd add another vote for crusader opponents, but that's maybe cheating as I'm already doing it so not really a "new period" ...

[Zippee]

On the assumption that the rest of the gaps in the Napoleonic range are going to get filled in regardless, my vote goes for

Revolutionary Wars range - I'm less interested in Egypt, Russia and Persia but Austria and France including Piedmont, Polish legions, etc would be cool

I'd also like a 18th century in India range Clive, EIC, Presidency and Wellesley

And despite the fact that my extremely comprehensive ancients armies are all 15mm I have nothing in the biblical era, so would seriously consider a 10mm expansion there.

[Leman]

With the release of the BBB Balkan Wars book why not a 10mm range. Here's an idea: a catalogue listing for the Balkan Wars giving proxies, with their current code, for figures already available that will work well, and just new figures to fill in the gaps.

[Nick the Lemming]

So far, I make it (in no particular order):

• 1 War of 1812

Two votes so far (me and SultanBev)

[Raider4]

Post-Roman Britain (as described in Bernard Conwell's Arthur trilogy)

To play games like Frostgrave or Sellswords & Spellslingers in 10mm, "Classic" D&D-style packs of adventurers. Packs of (say) 6-10 figures, a few fighters, a wizard, a cleric or two, a thief, etc. Including both male & female characters. (Don't know how practical these would be really, but would be nice.)

[Leman]

Would you be able to find them? What would you do with the other 14 in each pack?

[Orcs]

Post-Roman Britain (as described in Bernard Conwell's Arthur trilogy)

You can do this fairly well using the Late Romans , and the Dark Ages packs

To play games like Frostgrave or Sellswords & Spellslingers in 10mm, "Classic" D&D-style packs of adventurers. Packs of (say) 6-10 figures, a few fighters, a wizard, a cleric or two, a thief, etc. Including both male & female characters. (Don't know how practical these would be really, but would be nice.)

Unfortunately creating a pack of  individuals master  would be very expensive - 10 plus masters. Then you would only sell a pack or at most two to someone who was interested.  Its not really commercially viable.  Also the cost of two of these packs for 10mm, you could buy your warband for Frostgrave or Sell Swords in 28mm.

[Leman]

I rest my case m'lud.

[steve_holmes_11]

Am I alone in finding "Revolutionary War" ambiguous?

It seems to be commonly used in the context of 1792, guillotines, sans-culottes etc.

My initial reaction is always 1776, Washington crossing the Deleware, Riflemen with squirrel hats in their log cabins etc.

[Chad]

Steve

To an extent it is if you google it. Better the term Wars of the French Revolution,.

The armies required to cover the period of the 1st Coalition in Europe would be:

French
Prussian
Austrian
British
Dutch
Hanoverian
Hessian
Small contingents from other German states.
Piedmont and other Italian states
Spanish

[Leman]

Am I alone in finding "Revolutionary War" ambiguous?

It seems to be commonly used in the context of 1792, guillotines, sans-culottes etc.

My initial reaction is always 1776, Washington crossing the Deleware, Riflemen with squirrel hats in their log cabins etc.

In the UK the Revolutionary Wars refers to the period 1792 -1804, i.e. the wars sparked by the French Revolution. What took place in the American colonies is seen as a war for independence from the colonial power rather than a revolution. So yes, in the Uk you would be alone as our mnemonic for 1776-1783 is the AWI.

[FierceKitty]

Am I alone in finding "Revolutionary War" ambiguous?

...or in remembering that the important fight in 1812 was outside Moscow?

[sultanbev]

The longest war of that time was the 1780-1821 war in the middle east, with Brits, EIC, Omanis, Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis, Turks and Egyptians all fighting the Saudis, (Wahhabis of the Nejd and Qawasimi pirates as they were called then). If it wasn't for Napoleon stomping all over Europe, Wellington would have earned his fame in the Persian Gulf.

Mark

[Westmarcher]

Am I alone in finding "Revolutionary War" ambiguous?

It seems to be commonly used in the context of 1792, guillotines, sans-culottes etc.

My initial reaction is always 1776, Washington crossing the Deleware, Riflemen with squirrel hats in their log cabins etc.

Your question has a point, Steve; there is some ambiguity (yet funny how most of us thought of the French Revolutionary Wars - which is the proper title for these wars, btw)? For me, the plural ("wars") helped direct me to the consensus of the majority. The other war you mention, of course, is known as the American Revolutionary War by our American cousins but like Leman, I always think of that conflict as The American War of Independence partly because that's how it was first introduced to me in school.

[FierceKitty]

I think of that one as the American rebellion (also as the "War-of-Why-do-Horse-and-Musket-without-Hussars-or-Cuirassiers?").

[Womble67]

There are several things I would like mentioned by other members for my ongoing Project

WW2 Polish (or generic) Armoured Train  - Sorry getting a bit like FK and the Aztecs before they were released

Russian Partisans, German Volkssturm and the Russian B-4 203mm tracked howitzer, for example. I realise demand may be low for some or all of those.

Plus a tractor



Take care

Andy