What new periods would you like try in 10mm?

Started by Sunray, 13 January 2019, 02:46:02 PM

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Noktu

WW1/WW2 Weird Wars, and expanded Medieval line.

Chad

Quote from: sultanbev on 13 January 2019, 10:51:12 PM
Russians would be in the Oriental Napoleonics range fighting Chechens, Persians, Lesgis, Alans, Azerbaijanis, Cossacks, Ottoman Turks and such like, alongside allied Circassians, Georgians, and Serbs and so on.
Polish Legions would be in the Italian states.

But yes, a comprehensive Revolutionary Wars range seems to be getting a calling!

Not sure I understand that as it appears to ignore Suvorov's 1799 campaign in Italy.

Sunray

Thanks men.  Do keep them coming.


What is noticeable are the "dogs that aren't barking" . The period/ranges that Leon and I have "chatted" about as potentials.

The Korean experiment was/is a major gamble in creating a new figure range.  It only works because WW2 vehicles are already "on the shelf".  There are a few WW2 figures such as the US Marines that will compliment.   For me the soft field caps and berets lend themselves very well to a 10mm 1960s/70s Bush war game.

However,  Pendraken can't do a "Korean" too often.  Hence the relevance of  creating figures for which there is a demand.   




Matt J

QuoteThe Korean experiment was/is a major gamble in creating a new figure range.  It only works because WW2 vehicles are already "on the shelf"

Also makes it hard to judge how successful as well. For my own Korean 'adventure' I've probably spent 4x as much on WW2 codes than on Korean codes (I like armour  :D)
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Something nice and easy to sculpt.  :P

Cheers - Phil  ;)


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I'm something of a rules-driven chap, so would like to see ranges that match rules of interest.


I've half an eye on Osprey's Men of Bronze due out midyear.
It might be worth getting some advanced recon on unit/figure types, and see whether any work is required to build out your existing classical / successor ranges.
You might also consider presenting "Men of Bronze" starter packs.
The author, Eric Farrington is quite active on-line.


The other itch I've yet to scratch for lack of time / obvious complete figure ranges is Irregular Wars.

This represents a much bigger effort, including Elizabethan wars in Ireland (I think you have this covered).
Portuguese and Spanish discovery voyages and subsequent settlement.
Later waves of Hollander, English and French fighting to displace the original colonists and expand into indigenous people's territory.
There are also Eastern European lists covering Ottomans and Muscovite expansion across Siberia.

A massive ask to cover the lot, and unlikely to yield sales in proportion to the effort expended.
Let me have a day to think, and I'll try to come up with something specific and deliverable.

Look out for another posting.

sultanbev

Quote from: Techno on 14 January 2019, 10:20:06 AM
Something nice and easy to sculpt.  :P

Cheers - Phil  ;)

That's Ottoman Turk Napoleonics off the menu then  :'(

Mark

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Quote from: Techno on 14 January 2019, 10:20:06 AM
Something nice and easy to sculpt.  :P

A range of 19th Century infantry in greatcoats without backpacks but with loads of different headgear - bicornes, shakos (all flavours), forage caps, kepis etc plus bareheaded and bandaged

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Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 14 January 2019, 11:15:11 AM
I'm something of a rules-driven chap, so would like to see ranges that match rules of interest.
Following that logic, may I suggest some Gladiators and armed Roman civillians?

We've got the Lions.  :D
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Quote from: sultanbev on 14 January 2019, 11:26:25 AM
That's Ottoman Turk Napoleonics off the menu then  :'(
Mark

I'll leave those to Tony, Mark  ;) ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil

fred.

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 14 January 2019, 11:15:11 AM
The other itch I've yet to scratch for lack of time / obvious complete figure ranges is Irregular Wars.

This represents a much bigger effort, including Elizabethan wars in Ireland (I think you have this covered).
Portuguese and Spanish discovery voyages and subsequent settlement.
Later waves of Hollander, English and French fighting to displace the original colonists and expand into indigenous people's territory.
There are also Eastern European lists covering Ottomans and Muscovite expansion across Siberia.

A massive ask to cover the lot, and unlikely to yield sales in proportion to the effort expended.


The above appeals to me a lot. There are bits and pieces available around the edges of current ranges, but some dedicated figures would be very nice. It may be a project that can start quite quickly from initial figures and build from there.
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Quote from: Matt J on 14 January 2019, 10:09:50 AM
Also makes it hard to judge how successful as well. For my own Korean 'adventure' I've probably spent 4x as much on WW2 codes than on Korean codes (I like armour  :D)

Good point Matt.   However the figure sculpt was extensive to cover (a) nations and (b) seasonal change in uniforms. The WW2 sales in armour will help recoup the speculative investment in Korean figures.  In that sense it was a lower risk than say ultra modern.

One could (tongue in cheek) argue that the existence of 1980s  Brits and NATO (sorry- Argentine), would lower the risk on  1980s Soviet/WP.  But so far that dog has not barked.   Rumour Control hints we will have them in 12 months time.....

Matt J

Cold war gone hot seems to be very popular at the mo, I would certainly ride that pony.
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Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 14 January 2019, 11:15:11 AM
I'm something of a rules-driven chap, so would like to see ranges that match rules of interest.

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The other itch I've yet to scratch for lack of time / obvious complete figure ranges is Irregular Wars.

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A massive ask to cover the lot, and unlikely to yield sales in proportion to the effort expended.
Let me have a day to think, and I'll try to come up with something specific and deliverable.

Look out for another posting.

Rather quicker than the "day to think".

With some imagination, the European explorers / colonists can be rustled up using existing ranges.
Late mediaval / Elizabethan / English Civil / French and Indian wars.

Most European lists comprise regulars, militia and native allies/mercenaries.
The regulars resemble a typical pike and shot force, bit with sword and buckler / half pike / polearms replacing some or all of the pike.
Militia/volunteers/sailors would be similar, thought mixing close fighters and shot on their elements.
Some crossbows and ships guns are available, but few or no mounted.

Selecting figures with floppy hats allows an easily interchangable European force.
I'd personally have a few elements with morion hats for my Iberian regulars.
Ships guns would be 2 wheeled carriages for the Iberians, perhaps 4 wheel naval carriages for the johnny come lately more northern colonists.

So - where are the gaps?
Mostly Native types, either whole lists, or specific weapons.
Some of those gaps can be closed from existing ranges with a bit of imagination.

Let's start with the Americas:
North of the Aztecs there's a need for archers - both close fighter and scouts, spearmen and close fighters.
The woodland Indian shot can be taken form the FIW range, but require scouts and close fighters.

South of the Aztecs there are Incas (Quite a complicated range).
Simpler ranges are Amazon natives with big bows and bad hair, or Pampas dwellers with spears, bows and close fighters.
Boucaniers and Cimarrons also feature in several lists as scouts.

I'd be happy with a packs of archers, spears and close fighters to bulk out any of these forces and act as auxiliaries for the Europeans.

Outside the Americas there's:

West and Central Africa: Tribes and kingdoms with warriors, scouts, a scattering of shot and elite warriors, also shamans.

East Africa is more varied with the possibility to use colonial Somalis for many of the warriors.

Arabs: Can probably cobble something together form existing ranges.

India: Mughals, Rajputs and Vijayanagara - A big undertaking - through with quite interchangeable cores of levy foot and elephants.

Indonesia / East Indies: Warriors - rather different looking to the Indians, elephants, light cavalry and blowpipe or headhunter scouts. Also pirate variants.

China: Ming army - sadly declining from its heyday, with mercenaries, levies and a frew regulars.

Japan - Coneverd by existing range

Korea - Similar configuration to China with different headgear.


Congratulations for reading this far - have a cigar.

I'd suggest addressing one area of interest, building on existing ranges: You have a good start in several areas.
* Spanish Conquistodors in the Americas.
* French / English / Dutch colonists on the Eastern Seaboard.
* Portuguese in East Africa.


steve_holmes_11

Quote from: fred. on 14 January 2019, 12:30:46 PM
The above appeals to me a lot. There are bits and pieces available around the edges of current ranges, but some dedicated figures would be very nice. It may be a project that can start quite quickly from initial figures and build from there.

Tip of the hat Fred; you summarised my thoughts in far fewer words.

John Cook

Peninsula c 1809 - complete range with Spanish.  Nothing else thanks very much and definitely no bloody Zombies.

Steve J

Portugese would be good as well for the Peninsular Campaign.

Raider4

Quote from: Sunray on 14 January 2019, 10:03:42 AM
What is noticeable are the "dogs that aren't barking" . The period/ranges that Leon and I have "chatted" about as potentials.

The Korean experiment was/is a major gamble in creating a new figure range.  It only works because WW2 vehicles are already "on the shelf".  There are a few WW2 figures such as the US Marines that will compliment.   For me the soft field caps and berets lend themselves very well to a 10mm 1960s/70s Bush war game.

Well, I'm currently interested in Cold War c.1962, but didn't add this to this thread as there's already a very good start on the vehicles front, just need infantry to catch up.

Raider4

Quote from: Matt J on 14 January 2019, 12:58:53 PM
Cold war gone hot seems to be very popular at the mo, I would certainly ride that pony.

For me, yes but c.1962. Most cold-war-gone-hot seems to be centered on post-1980 (I suspect because the US suddenly get some sexy kit - M1, MLRS, etc.)