Battle of Lansdown, July 1643.

Started by urbancohort, 24 October 2017, 06:23:13 PM

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Steve J

If you go to Google Maps, you can just make out some shapes of buildings on the un-ploughed triangular field. I stopped to take some lunch on my walk in the shelter of the wall that the Parliamentarians used, unaware of the details of the battle at that time. If the weather stays fair I may tempt SWMBO for a walk around the area this weekend :D

T13A

Hi

Thanks for the report and photos. Up to 2011 I used to work about 2 miles down the road towards Bath. Here is a very useful site for visiting British battlefields in case anyone is unaware of it: http://www.battlefieldstrust.com/resource-centre/civil-war/battlepageview.asp?pageid=410

Cheers Paul
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sunjester

Thank, very interesting. I must try and stop by the next time I'm in Bath.

Steve J

There is also a Roman fort next to the Western end of Bath racecourse. Sadly you can't get close to it, but without crops in the field you can see some of it. There is also a deep ditch by the footpath that I've always wondered if it's the substantial remnants of a defensive structure. It is deeper than it needs to be as a pure ditch. The views from nearby are stunning on a good day.

urbancohort

Quote from: T13A on 25 October 2017, 07:49:06 AM
Hi

Thanks for the report and photos. Up to 2011 I used to work about 2 miles down the road towards Bath. Here is a very useful site for visiting British battlefields in case anyone is unaware of it: http://www.battlefieldstrust.com/resource-centre/civil-war/battlepageview.asp?pageid=410

Cheers Paul
Great website! Thank you.

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urbancohort

Quote from: Steve J on 25 October 2017, 10:01:59 AM
There is also a Roman fort next to the Western end of Bath racecourse. Sadly you can't get close to it, but without crops in the field you can see some of it. There is also a deep ditch by the footpath that I've always wondered if it's the substantial remnants of a defensive structure. It is deeper than it needs to be as a pure ditch. The views from nearby are stunning on a good day.
I have a friend who is an archaeologist in Bath. I will ask if he knows.

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urbancohort

Quote from: Steve J on 25 October 2017, 10:01:59 AM
There is also a Roman fort next to the Western end of Bath racecourse. Sadly you can't get close to it, but without crops in the field you can see some of it. There is also a deep ditch by the footpath that I've always wondered if it's the substantial remnants of a defensive structure. It is deeper than it needs to be as a pure ditch. The views from nearby are stunning on a good day.
My friend tells me he thinks the fort is a misidentification by a Victorian antiquary. He considers it more likely to be a livestock pen.

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Westmarcher

An interesting thread. Thanks for posting that (btw, Photo 7?). Waller moving his artillery back during the fight was also illuminating  (presume they were not big pieces) as all too often we are told artillery was more or less static during pre-Napoleonic battles, particularly the further back in time one goes. Also, thanks to T13A for the battlefields trust link. Although the first two battles I searched for were not encouraging (Brunanburh unsurprisingly revealed no substantive information and Glen Shiel had not been included at all), it nevertheless looks as if it could be quite a good resource to refer to in future. 
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Steve J

QuoteMy friend tells me he thinks the fort is a misidentification by a Victorian antiquary. He considers it more likely to be a livestock pen.

Interesting and makes sense as it's a pretty small enclosure.

Steve J


Leman

I was a child in Bromborough, which has often been identified as the site of the battle of Brunanbrugh. Many years ago I remember reading an article about the battle in Miniature Wargames or Wargames Illustrated. The area it described, by the little river Dibbin matched where I had once lived, so I am a bit of a Bromborough supporter for the site of this elusive battle, particularly as the Vikings involved were from Ireland and the Mersey, into which the Dibbin flows, has it's estuary on the Irish Sea and many good places for beaching the types of boats used by the Vikings.
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Westmarcher

Yeah, it was my impression that the Wirral was the most favoured candidate, location-wise, too and not the Dumfriesshire one highlighted in the battlefields trust website (although, to be fair, they do indicate that one is also speculative and that no-one really knows).
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

urbancohort

Quote from: Westmarcher on 25 October 2017, 06:16:37 PM
Yeah, it was my impression that the Wirral was the most favoured candidate, location-wise, too and not the Dumfriesshire one highlighted in the battlefields trust website (although, to be fair, they do indicate that one is also speculative and that no-one really knows).
Remember in 1980s a series by Michael Wood, "In Search of the Dark Ages" which talked about the location of the battle. Really fascinating.

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urbancohort

Are there any rules anyone recommends for the ECW please?

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T13A

Hi

Personally, I like Field of Glory Renaissance, IMHO they give a good 'feel' for the ECW.

Cheers Paul
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