Battlefront in financial trouble?

[Leman]

Didn't a company try boxed sets of 15mm Napoleonics 2 or 3 years ago? Where are they now?

[petercooman]

Didn't a company try boxed sets of 15mm Napoleonics 2 or 3 years ago? Where are they now?

Gordon and hague. If you look on their website you can see the kickstarter for napoleonics. They have boxed sets of 15mm acw (prepainted) too.

[Fenton]

Wasn't the Napoleonics Capitan miniatures or something like that?

[toxicpixie]

Just seen the Capitan boxes pop up on Wayland Games - they look pretty decent but there's a lack of good photo's that I can find!

TBH I'd be tempted by Warriors packs, can't be beaten on price and quality looks acceptable so far as I can see

[Leman]

Yes they do some nice Imperial Romans in true, ie small, 15mm, including a testudo.

[toxicpixie]

Those ECW chaps I popped on my painting thread a week or two ago were Warrior. Lots if character, painted up nice - I've had some ropey stuff (25mm WoR, very thin, bit... Smooth) but even they were acceptable at worst!

[GordonY]

The Warrior Nappys are superb, just enough detail so that you dont spend a week and a half painting one but enough so you know what they are, as for price well 100+ 15mm for £18 that just cant be beat.

[Subedai]

Those ECW chaps I popped on my painting thread a week or two ago were Warrior. Lots if character, painted up nice - I've had some ropey stuff (25mm WoR, very thin, bit... Smooth) but even they were acceptable at worst!

I agree. I bought some 15mm ECW figures from them back in 1984-still got them- and they were great, and even then very affordable. Some of their other, larger figures are a bit suss though.

[jambo1]

Never tried their 25mm but purchased their 18th century army pack and the figures are very nice indeed, stocky wee chaps full of character, their service is first class too!!

[NTM]

Wasn't the Napoleonics Capitan miniatures or something like that?

They are doing a game but I think the one being referred to is napoleon at war which seems to have stalled now

http://www.manatwar.es/

[Fenton]

Yes that's the one I was thinking of

[The_Shootist]

I can say hand on heart i will not be sorry to see them go...they forgot about the hobby and its customers and concentrated on the money.
Quality has gone down hill rapidly along with service.
I very rarely bought there items relying a lot on other manufacturers, the items i did get i got free as i worked as a free lance writer for them....see any of the Brit Airborne stuff.

[Leon026]

I honestly would not be surprised that Battlefront isnt doing too well - they've over-expanded and from what it seems with very little strategy.

They started Early War, was a bit of a fiasco, and so many of their armies from Early War are not supported/not in stock, no longer in production.

Then added Vietnam, which was "okay", but the Flames of War ruleset doesnt remotely represent Vietnam accurately (aside from set piece battles between conventional armies) - and due to competition and wanting to reach out to other eras, they've added the Arab-Israeli wars, expanded on Vietnam, and then talk about doing the Cold War.... and yet once more, we're seeing ranges of models that aren't being covered, or stocked while the "new release" sales are high, before stopping. Nevermind that Flames of War's "company group" and at most "battlegroup" scale would never work in the 'Cold War gone hot' setting they've been trying to sell.

Battlefront have acquired Dust, but there's no news (ever) on the Flames of War / Battlefront website. I for one would've loved seeing Dust being made into 15mm so that they could be integrated into the already massive WWII range to allow expansion into the "wierd" war - but Dust seems like (yet another) project that's being left aside to die.

It's no secret either that both Forged in Battle and the Plastic Soldier Company have made dents into BF's marketting - which explains why Battlefront have really accelerated their plastics the past year or two.

All the recent expansions just seem very haphazard.

[toxicpixie]

Judging by the BF-DUST Kickstarter shenanigans they won't be doing anything more with their license...

[barbarian]

They were distributors only, not owners of Dust.

[mollinary]

I'm not sure I understand all this schadenfreude.  We are a very small hobby, and it seems to me that everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) who ventures their own money to try and provide us with the toys we want deserves our support, if only moral. . If they are successful, good luck to them, as no-one is compelled to buy what they offer. If they fail, then they lose in the real world, with all the pain and hardship that entails, and why should we rejoice at that?   All in all,  it is each individual's choice as to whether or not to buy their products, but I fear it is less than generous to gloat over their problems.  This all leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. Sorry! 

Mollinary

PS this is not my period, so I have never bought any of their products.

[Womble67]

it is each individual's choice as to whether or not to buy their products, but I fear it is less than generous to gloat over their problems. 

Agreed

I've never bought anything of them or played there rules but it would be sad to see them go

Take care

Andy

[barbarian]

I guess I went into WWII with Pendraken due to the cost of Battlefront, so I thank them for being too expensive.

[Luddite]

but the Flames of War ruleset doesnt remotely represent Vietnam accurately

Is there anything FoW represents accurately?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Their or orbats and colour schemes?