Warmaster Beastmen

[getagrip]

Hi all,

I know there is a Beastman army available in the "trial rules" but I don't really like them.  

So...decided to do my own.  

I wanted a horde feel of pure aggression.  

The list is VERY infantry heavy but tough.  Only a few light cavalry so wouldn't really recommend this list for tournament style games.

Let me know what you think.  

[nikharwood]

Looks interesting....will have to chuck some dice at it & see how it plays 

Thanks for posting 

[getagrip]

Looks interesting....will have to chuck some dice at it & see how it plays 

Cheers Nik; would love to know how that goes.

What do you think of the Doombull special rule?  Included it to give some punch and add a bit of colour.

[Ithoriel]

As Nik says, really needs played to see how it works but first impressions are:

- For consistency with other armies I'd make chariots 5+ save

- I'd keep Beastmen to the standard 4 units per brigade

- The Doombull breaks the basic armylist conventions to no great advantage that I can see. Either field him as a standard hero or turn him into a unit upgrade like a mount or a magic item.

Overall it looks like a good, solid armylist. Have fun!

[getagrip]

- For consistency with other armies I'd make chariots 5+ save

- I'd keep Beastmen to the standard 4 units per brigade

- The Doombull breaks the basic armylist conventions to no great advantage that I can see. Either field him as a standard hero or turn him into a unit upgrade like a mount or a magic item.

Overall it looks like a good, solid armylist. Have fun!

Thanks Ithoriel:

Goblin chariots save at 6+ and I wanted aggression over armour.

Wanted the beastmen in more of a horde but not quite as large as Skaven.

The Doombull creates a horde that punches above it's weight but is vulnerable.

Will see how it plays 

[Ithoriel]

It's your armylist so don't let me influence you unduly, informed suggestions at best.

On the chariots, my thinking was that goblin chariots are basically kid's go-carts, crewed by weedy goblins and pulled by a couple of scruffy Alsatians whereas Beastman chariots are solid lumps of wood crewed by hulking monsters you wouldn't want to meet on a dark night pulled by beasts that will knock you down and tap dance on your chest.

[getagrip]

It's your armylist so don't let me influence you unduly, informed suggestions at best.

On the chariots, my thinking was that goblin chariots are basically kid's go-carts, crewed by weedy goblins and pulled by a couple of scruffy Alsatians whereas Beastman chariots are solid lumps of wood crewed by hulking monsters you wouldn't want to meet on a dark night pulled by beasts that will knock you down and tap dance on your chest.

  Beautifully put.

I wanted them to have Att 4+ but with that level of attack 5+ save made them into Centurions!

[jchaos79]

Looks really interesting. Maybe in my perosnal taste I would drop trolls and ogres for this army style.

I see the 6units brigade like the special of the army. But any drawback?

You know the armies use to have a characteristic improvement and a drawback that compensate.

Anyway seems very dangerous and interesting indeed list.  Thanks for sharing

[getagrip]

I see the 6units brigade like the special of the army. But any drawback?

You know the armies use to have a characteristic improvement and a drawback that compensate.

Thanks Chaos 

I think the lack of any cavalry is a massive drawback.  I'm play-testing it in a couple of weeks so we'll see how it goes   

[toxicpixie]

Between the chariots and actual cavalry you can field five mounted per 1000pts - that's not exactly lacking...

[getagrip]

Between the chariots and actual cavalry you can field five mounted per 1000pts - that's not exactly lacking...

Take your point but it is compared to armies with unlimited cavalry, which, if I were facing this army (and I am in to weeks) I would take loads of cavalry; you aint going to out infantry them.

Also, I don't think of chariots as cavalry more as unique shock troops and, for the points, they're really brittle

[toxicpixie]

Compare them to anyone except Bretonnians then - are they low in cavalry based number of units to anyone else?

[fred.]

Take your point but it is compared to armies with unlimited cavalry, which, if I were facing this army (and I am in to weeks) I would take loads of cavalry; you aint going to out infantry them.

Also, I don't think of chariots as cavalry more as unique shock troops and, for the points, they're really brittle

We found this the fundamental problem with WMF that heavy cavalry is just the best option.

[toxicpixie]

That's why we switched to Impetus Fantasy - any cavalry could mass so many dice they'd just blast trough an opposing army on a couple of rolls, job done, game over

[getagrip]

We found this the fundamental problem with WMF that heavy cavalry is just the best option.

That's why we switched to Impetus Fantasy - any cavalry could mass so many dice they'd just blast trough an opposing army on a couple of rolls, job done, game over

Haven't found this but I do play very large games and use a fair bit of scenery.

In tournament style games it's certainly true.