Rules Q&A

Started by Chieftain, 01 February 2015, 10:13:01 PM

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Quote from: Chieftain on 29 September 2015, 01:26:50 AM
'At the end of a unit's move there may be further effects for the unit being within limiting terrain such as gaining behind defences advantage in woodland.  These effects only apply if more than half of the unit's base is in the terrain.  Uphill advantage is only gained if all of a unit's base is further up the slope than any part of an opponent's base.'

Thanks this is useful. However I feel the last part of this contradicts what you have just given as examples of when it could be applied.

Uphill advantage is only gained if all of a unit's base is further up the slope than any part of an opponent's base.

This indicates that I must be fully on the hill, otherwise the part of my base which is not would not be further up the slope than any part of my opponents base. i.e only cases 1 and 2, but a definite no to 3 and 4. 5 would require a sloped or multi level hill.

Chieftain

Quote from: z4carlo
Thanks this is useful. However I feel the last part of this contradicts what you have just given as examples of when it could be applied.

Uphill advantage is only gained if all of a unit's base is further up the slope than any part of an opponent's base.

This indicates that I must be fully on the hill, otherwise the part of my base which is not would not be further up the slope than any part of my opponents base. i.e only cases 1 and 2, but a definite no to 3 and 4. 5 would require a sloped or multi level hill.

If more than half the base is on a hill it gains counts as in the terrain and gains the uphill bonus against a unit that isn't on the hill.

'At the end of a unit's move there may be further effects for the unit being within limiting terrain such as gaining behind defences advantage in woodland.  These effects only apply if more than half of the unit's base is in the terrain.  Uphill advantage is only gained if all of a unit's base is further up the slope than any part of an opponent's base.'

'Melee modifier: +1d6 if uphill of the opponent'


As I understand it, I think your confusion may be around the wording ' Uphill advantage is only gained if all of a unit's base is further up the slope than any part of an opponent's base.'?

Note it does not say 'all of a unit's base is on the hill', but rather 'further up the slope'. 

So a unit with more than half its base in the terrain (hill) gains the terrain-based advantage, and therefore meets the requirement of all of it being further up the slope and gets the +1d6 uphill bonus (against  unit not on the hill).

Its always a judgement call between the players though.
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z4carlo

Ok that's a lot clearer, I have to say that the previously quoted line is does not explain this concept well at all.
I think it would be a lot clearer if simply stated that if one person has more then half their base on a hill and the opponent does not that they gain an uphill advantage.

But thanks for the clarification.

Nosher

apologies if this has already been asked but a quick search was fruitless.....

Can a warband units dice ever be reduced to zero dice?

For example, a unit of centaur archers generates 1d6 in melee. A fear causing unit reduces the melee dice by -1d6. Do the Centaur Archers roll no dice at all?

Example two: A unit of undead warriors roll 1d6 protection. A powerful attack reduces protection rolls by -1d6. I assume the warriors get 0 protection dice?
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That's how we've played it!
Infact, a unit that caused fear and had powerful caused multiple hits on a unit of wolf riders (normally 1d6PO)  near a table edge, meant the riders had a net -2D6 protection dice...|That was a LOT of dice boosts!  :'(
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Chieftain

Quote from: Nosher on 07 October 2015, 12:16:49 PM
apologies if this has already been asked but a quick search was fruitless.....

Can a warband units dice ever be reduced to zero dice?

For example, a unit of centaur archers generates 1d6 in melee. A fear causing unit reduces the melee dice by -1d6. Do the Centaur Archers roll no dice at all?

Example two: A unit of undead warriors roll 1d6 protection. A powerful attack reduces protection rolls by -1d6. I assume the warriors get 0 protection dice?

Hi Nosher,

You'll find you answer under Basics: Dice and modifiers.

'The number of dice rolled for a test may be modified up or down.  Modifiers that increase the number of dice are applied before modifiers that reduce the number.  If dice are reduced to 0d6 or lower by such modifiers the unit does not roll any dice and cannot succeed at that action.  The test automatically fails.'

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JohnG

Quick question on the "behind defenses" rule.
Does the unit get the bonus if the source of the attack is from within the wood/town etc? So if two units are in melee within a wood for example, do they both gain the +1 protection to represent the difficulty of fighting in a wood, or is it cancelled?

Chieftain

12 October 2015, 05:29:41 PM #174 Last Edit: 12 October 2015, 05:34:24 PM by Chieftain
Quote from: JohnG on 12 October 2015, 04:39:38 PM
Quick question on the "behind defenses" rule.
Does the unit get the bonus if the source of the attack is from within the wood/town etc? So if two units are in melee within a wood for example, do they both gain the +1 protection to represent the difficulty of fighting in a wood, or is it cancelled?

Hi JohnG,

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They both get the behind defenses bonus.

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JohnG

Excellent! Thanks for clearing that up for me.  :-bd

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