Hi,

I've noticed that the trend seems to be to have 24/30 figs in a regiment but am considering painting up 60 for each, will it work?

Say 6 groups of 10 figures on 60x30mm bases or 15 groups of 4 on 20x20mm bases,, I wonder whether it would be workable for any rules system once I decide to take the plunge into gaming, as it seems a waste of potential not to have at least that many representing a regiment.

How do you do it, is there a workable ratio limit?, is 1 in 10 too much?

Cheers

Greetings

If we are talking AWI the relative strengths could vary enormously.  I seem to recall that in 1778 it was not uncommon for British regiments to average around 320-360 men and Patriot units were often smaller ~240 and sometimes converged.  However you could also get much larger Highland battalions and new units (eg Guards for the southern campaigns) brought in from the UK.  A (wikipedia) example is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandywine_order_of_battle . 

If you are interested in specifics then the booklets by the late Greg Novak have strength returns at or around all the actions.  Some of the data may have been superseded but it's still useful.

In terms of rules I know that British Grenadier often uses 1:10 for the smaller AWI actions.

Regards

Edward

I'd select a set of rules that you like, that would then determine your basing.

Depends on the rules. When I get around to doing AWI, I will probably put 6 or 8 figs on a 25mm X 25mm base.

I'll look into those suggestions Edward, ta.

Steve/btsherman, having never gamed I'm hesitant to grab a load of rules to try out (I may decide gaming's not for me once I've tried it), was wondering more if there's something out there already that allows the prospective gamer to dictate basing, rather than have the rules determine what can or can't be fielded.

cheers chaps

Ry

Ry

I don't think there is anything. However, I've found that regardless of the rules you buy, other things can dictate the basing. For example, I have rules that suggest large units 24+ figures, but generally economics and time determine that such sizes are not practical for me. Answer, modify the scale and basing.

Your best bet is to enquire on the forum for other members to give you a view on the rules they use (Hopefully for AWI) and the scales and bases involved.

Chad

Quote from: ryman1 on 26 March 2013, 01:52:48 PM
Hi,

I've noticed that the trend seems to be to have 24/30 figs in a regiment but am considering painting up 60 for each, will it work?


Cheers

Hi!

Do realize that many rule sets use the principle of warmaster/warmaster ancients, meaning bases of 40x20 cm. you can ft about 10-12 figures on maximum, and that will be thight formation. standard unit then has 3 bases so about 30-36 men per base.

Now if you want bigger bases and more men in unit, I'd steer away from warmaster based rulesets (although they are good if you like 'em), and look for a ruleset that does not require a specific base size. There are enough out there so that shouldn't be a problem. I find the trend with rulesets to be more and more focused to not having to rebase troops, only thing to bear in mind is that opposing armies should have the same basing.

It is a logical trend, since stating a base size for a ruleset might put people off who have differently based troops!

This is a chicken and egg situation, Ry. If you paint up a large battalion of troops and then find that it doesn't fit your chosen rules you have wasted resources. However, if you buy an expensive set of rules which you don't like, you are likewise out of pocket.

Why don't you go to www.freewargamesrules.co.uk where you can download various sets of A.W.I. rules for free, decide which one takes your fancy and go from there? Or if there's a wargames club local to you pop along and see what they do. Most clubs welcome new faces and unless you're determined to wargame solo you will probably want an opponent(s).

Quote from: Hertsblue on 27 March 2013, 11:19:13 AM
This is a chicken and egg situation, Ry. If you paint up a large battalion of troops and then find that it doesn't fit your chosen rules you have wasted resources. However, if you buy an expensive set of rules which you don't like, you are likewise out of pocket.

Why don't you go to www.freewargamesrules.co.uk where you can download various sets of A.W.I. rules for free, decide which one takes your fancy and go from there? Or if there's a wargames club local to you pop along and see what they do. Most clubs welcome new faces and unless you're determined to wargame solo you will probably want an opponent(s).

Cheers Herts, will go and see what this freerules thing is all about, no clubs near me though as far as I'm aware.