'First Look' at the new Napoleonic French!

Started by Leon, 04 July 2010, 09:59:14 PM

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Leon

04 July 2010, 09:59:14 PM Last Edit: 30 November 2011, 11:00:29 AM by Leon
We've just got the first few masters for this range, with a lot more to come, but I thought I'd give people a bit of a peek as to what to expect.  We'll be storing these figures as they arrive for a big release to start 2011!  Remember, patience is a virtue!   :P





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CATenWolde

Very nice indeed! Good detail, raised a bit which is nice for painting, and good choice of poses - looks like we'll get at least two variants per pose type? It's great to see a couple practical "march attack" and skirmish poses with some character, likewise the command set - the two officers in particular have a lot of a personality. It also looks like there is enough texture to the coat and trousers to take an ink wash pretty well. Good choice on the mix of "campaign" trousers along with some full dress details like the shako.

Looks like I better finish my ACW project this Fall and get ready for 2011!

Cheers,

Christopher

Leon

Cheers Christopher!  We're going for a couple of poses per pack, as a compromise between the gamers who want loads of poses, and the accurists who want them all regimented.  Hopefully this will please everyone!  The 'march attack' poses seemed the best ones to start with as well.
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Last Hussar

I'm holding off Napoleonics at the moment because these are coming.  Nice to see they are a reality now.  What nations are you doing.  Yes, I know French...
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Leon

Starting with French and Austrians, plus some of the Allies for Wagram, then moving onto the British, etc.
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von Winterfeldt

vey nice sculpting indeed but what is the soldier doing with the musket between his legs  :o



As for the mounted officer - most likley for he sake of casting you chose that the end of the boots are on the same level as the belly of the horse?

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Leon

Quote from: von Winterfeldt on 06 July 2010, 05:30:59 AM
vey nice sculpting indeed but what is the soldier doing with the musket between his legs  :o

He forgot the drill manual position unfortunately as people were firing at him...   :D

Quote from: von Winterfeldt on 06 July 2010, 05:30:59 AM
As for the mounted officer - most likley for he sake of casting you chose that the end of the boots are on the same level as the belly of the horse?

Yep!
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I may buy just a few- just to keep your company going :-*
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von Winterfeldt

This has nothing to do with forgetting the drill regulation, a most awkard position to load your musket, you would knock out your front man as well, the construction of the musket demands a certain way how to load it.  ::)

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Leon

Quote from: von Winterfeldt on 07 July 2010, 07:31:06 AM
This has nothing to do with forgetting the drill regulation

Yeah, I was just joking...!

Do people think it's enough of a problem to need the figure resculpting though?
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nikharwood

I don't (but then I'm not renowned for my purism)...I'm also not entirely convinced that a unit under fire would remember to place their feet correctly at that angle with the regulation positioning of the musket. I've just had a run-through of this with a mop and I find the position of bracing between my feet to be much more intuitive...

...and if a musket can be reloaded prone, then I see no reason why it can't be reloaded vertically from between my feet...

Please do educate me further though von W (& others) as I am coming to this as a layman really & may have missed the trick entirely!  ;D

von Winterfeldt

I did not say to look at the feet, but why would you chose the most complicated way to load a musket?
Remember you were squezed in 3 ranks, for width about half a yard and the front men one yard in front of you.

Of course you could load a musket on the ground, sitting or keeling, but not in rank and file.

The length of a French musket was about 5 feet without bayonet, there it was always fixed with the musket (at least in combat) - it was more up to 6 feet length. The avarage French infantryman was about 5 feet 4 inches to 5 feet 8 inches.

Now take a musket - place yourself into rank and file and then try to load it between your legs - possible yes - but very unlikley.

Here just for fun - a loading sequence of a French musket (Prussian and Saxon muskets are loaded differently as well as Austrian ones in the French revolution.
The loading sequence, the lack of space and the construction of the gun whould deem a certain way how to handle the musket
And yes - very nice sculpts, in case the sculptor can do such a in between leg pose, he easily can do it right as well.


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CATenWolde

vW,

In general I agree that the pose with the butt to the left is the more standard, however I do wonder how much we are over-influenced by close-order drill manuals. These are meant to be skirmishers, rather than a static firing line - with plenty of room around them, would they load in a different way? Was the close-order drill really the best way, or just the best way in close ranks? I don't know myself. Still, perhaps one pose that could serve two purposes, depending on how people wanted to use them (e.g. making up bases in firing lines), might be good.

Cheers,

Christopher

PS - I could swear I've seen that loading pose in a heroic painting or two, but can't put my finger on it.

sultanbev

Leon, when you get round to doing the Revolutionary wars with Italian state armies, and Ottoman Turks and Arabs, in about 20 years time  ;D , let me know, I have all the troop type info, OOB, etc you'll ever need. Same for War of 1812, Russo-Persian war 1803-1813, Burmese Napoleonics-Colonial....

Mark

Leon

Quote from: sultanbev on 08 July 2010, 05:41:07 PM
Leon, when you get round to doing the Revolutionary wars with Italian state armies, and Ottoman Turks and Arabs, in about 20 years time  ;D , let me know, I have all the troop type info, OOB, etc you'll ever need. Same for War of 1812, Russo-Persian war 1803-1813, Burmese Napoleonics-Colonial....

Mark

I'll make a note of that, I might have forgotten in 20 years time...!   :P
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