ECW Remodelling

Started by Ironsides, 11 June 2011, 08:36:17 AM

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Sandinista

Quote from: Leon on 13 June 2011, 04:11:40 PM
We could maybe drill the pikes out of some of the figures and offer them empty handed?
Noooo, I like them as they are

Leon

I wouldn't replace the current codes, but we could add them as alternatives at the end of the listings.
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mollinary

OK Guys, I hear what you say about cut down pikes..........but, if I recall correctly that is an extrapolation from a remark by Monck(??) on what a bad practice it was.   I haven't seen any evidence as to how widespread the practice was, nor on how much was cut off, nor that it followed through into post war practice in the following decades.  If anyone has such evidence I would be most interested in having a look.  I know lots of stuff has been uncovered by keen re-enactors in local archives, but I haven't seen much published.  But maybe I'm reading the wrong books?   Leon, I wouldn't go to the trouble of open handed unless others share my concern, which on the evidence so far they dont!  That said,  as a general rule open handed figures do give you choice.  Decisions decisions!

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Bertie

I am quite happy with the infantry as they are. But what about the mounted figures. Can we not have a more dynamic lobster pot figure with pistols and one with a sword. Same for the soft hat figure. It would also help classify troop types with the rules I  would like to use.

What do you say Leon? not replace, but expand on a high selling range.

Bertie.

Leon

Quote from: Bertie on 14 June 2011, 07:44:09 PM
I am quite happy with the infantry as they are. But what about the mounted figures. Can we not have a more dynamic lobster pot figure with pistols and one with a sword. Same for the soft hat figure. It would also help classify troop types with the rules I  would like to use.

What do you say Leon? not replace, but expand on a high selling range.

It's probably something we'd like to do at some point, but there's no timescales.
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Ironsides

I wish to thank all those who have given "useful"suggestions.

Open handed figures would be good. Those in favour please say.

The cavalary I cannot accept in their present form, no animation about sums these figures up.

Lobster pot trotting with swords and pistols would be good.

Royalist cavalary charging with sword etc.

Ironsides

p.s. some personalities would be good too i.e. Rupert minus his dog.

nikharwood

I'm quite happy with mine as they are - I don't think that they're particularly un-animated: and once on the table I think they look great - have a look here:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=389.0

:)

Bertie

Great work Nik fair do's they do look good.

But I still stand by what I said, Infantry no prblem at all. Mounted need some VIAGRA I thinking ;). Thought about using some 30 year war figures and perhaps cutting heads off. But when I see the League of Augsburg range, well I ask you :'(

Anyway Pendraken are still tops by me.

Bertie

mollinary

Re my post of the 14th, that would be a"No" then as to whether anyone has any primary source evidence on how widespread cutting down of pikes was?

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Sandinista

This quote in Haythornthwaites book (p.28) is from "Turner, Sir J. Pallas Armata - Military Essayes of the Ancient Grecian, Roman, and Modern Art of War - Written in the Years 1670 and 1671 (London, 1683) p.178. New York, Greenwood Press, 1968

"Turner noting that few exceed fifteen (feet)... many base soldiers will cut some off the length of that".

No more, but I'm looking...

mollinary

Interesting that no evidence has come to light on this "practice" in eighteen months. A single reference from a source twenty five years after the war?  And it still says "few exceed 15 ft in length", which is about 50% longer than the pikes on the existing Pendraken figures.  I still think the balance should be, mould open handed figures, and let the customer decide!  :D

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Leon

Quote from: mollinary on 27 January 2013, 08:24:43 PM
Interesting that no evidence has come to light on this "practice" in eighteen months. A single reference from a source twenty five years after the war?  And it still says "few exceed 15 ft in length", which is about 50% longer than the pikes on the existing Pendraken figures.  I still think the balance should be, mould open handed figures, and let the customer decide!  :D

Mollinary

The pikes we supply for the LoA and the Greeks are 30mm, so about right for 15ft in scale terms.
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Sandinista

Fair to say that in eighteen months I have not looked as I am happy with figures as they are and will be buying more soon

mollinary

27 January 2013, 08:46:09 PM #28 Last Edit: 27 January 2013, 08:56:15 PM by Leon
Quote from: Sandinista on 25 June 2011, 04:10:53 PM
No more, but I'm looking...

So was that ironic, sarcastic, or rhetorical in some way?    ;D ;D

Mollinary


EDIT: Quote fixed.
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Quote from: Leon on 27 January 2013, 08:31:54 PM
The pikes we supply for the LoA and the Greeks are 30mm, so about right for 15ft in scale terms.

Agreed. With open handed figures they would work well, and could be cut into toothpicks or firewood at the whim of the individual!  ;) ;)

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