Recent, decent war films...?

Started by Nosher, 24 December 2012, 11:30:16 AM

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Quote from: Nosher on 24 December 2012, 11:30:16 AM
What has happened to the war film genre?

I can't remember the last decent war film? I was browsing the shelves at the supermarket whilst purchasing the last of the obligatory booze for tommorow and couldn't help but notice how devoid of war films the dvd section was...

Defiance was  agood war film, about the Polish Jews Hiding out in the Forest and fighting the Germans .  All the more so as it was based on a true story and from all accounts was fairly accurate, apart from where they took on a Panzer Three.  If I rermember rightly the tank was authentic, or at least looked correct.
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"Generation kill" is not a movie but is decent.
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Quote from: barbarian on 26 December 2012, 08:45:56 AM
"Generation kill" is not a movie but is decent.

I add "over there".  Not movies, but  I liked both of them.
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What do you mean "Recent"  how old ?

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26 December 2012, 10:26:00 AM #18 Last Edit: 26 December 2012, 10:30:35 AM by Leveller Mutineer
Quote from: Gran76 on 24 December 2012, 05:43:25 PM
A while ago I heard rumours of a Brit war film set in Norway about Brit commandos starring Shaun Bean and Danny Dyer apparently it was going to be an old skool war film like they did in the 60s and 70s haven't heard any update on it though.

It's called 'The Age of Heroes'. I was quite excited by the prospect of a British war film.  However, IMHO, it's awful.  A film depicting the formation of Ian Fleming's 30 Commando and it's first mission is a nice idea.  But it's badly let down by poor acting (it's got Danny Dyer in it), direction and script. Apparently it's based on a true story, but I don't see much more than a nod towards any history: I believe 30 Commandos first deployment was at Dieppe, not Norway.

It had a limited run in the cinema, I believe, and then went onto DVD. The abrupt ending was a kindness because I couldn't manage much more.  

This is a subjective view, of course.

Oh yes, and it's so low budget that they couldn't afford a real token American. That position is filled by a Norwegian playing a Norwegian born US Marine Lt.

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Well, ANY film based during WWII that has any Americans in the first 1/3rd of the film is historically inaccurate.   ;D
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Quote from: Luddite on 26 December 2012, 12:27:12 PM
Well, ANY film based during WWII that has any Americans in the first 1/3rd of the film is historically inaccurate.   ;D

Not if its in the Pacific............

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Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 December 2012, 04:08:54 PM
Not if its in the Pacific............

IanS  :D

Disagreed. Pacific conflict goes back to 1937. Americans officially part of it as of December 7 1941. Unofficially is hard to say ("Advisors" for the Chinese Air Force aka US Army Air Force training in China)

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Remake of Red Dawn shouldn't be far away with Russians replaced with North Koreans and their allies :-\  I can see it being a total, Americans save the day film, but aren't they all!

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Red Dawn 2 has already been released and to be honest its total pants. The original was way better.

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Quote from: sebigboss79 on 25 December 2012, 11:35:22 AM

Problem with the tanks is that none of those is / was left. Some Panzer IV survived in Egypt though. No Panther or Tiger tanks I am aware of.


You'd think this would be less of a problem nowadays with the budgets for big films. I think I heard that Peter Jackson has built a squadron of Lancasters for the Dambusters film. Of course the best films tend not to be the ones with the big budgets.
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27 December 2012, 10:17:35 AM #25 Last Edit: 27 December 2012, 10:26:14 AM by OldenBUA
There are various German tanks in running condition in museums around the world. Of these, the Panther appears more often, because it was used some time post-war by the French. They just don't appear in films, because they are (literally) irreplacable.

But I agree that for new films CGI and modelmaking is the way to go. Also 'modding' existing tanks to look like German ones remains popular (with various levels of succes). The general public just won't care however, any tank with big German crosses on it will do.

If you want something a bit more special, you just have a new one built :D



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27 December 2012, 11:33:51 PM #26 Last Edit: 28 December 2012, 12:07:49 AM by Vulpine
Recent WW2....

Just glancing at my DVDs, These ain't that recent but they ain't very old...

Memphis bell
Enemy at the gate
SPR
Band of Brothers (yes it's a series, but still).

If it dose not have to be WW2

Black hawk down
Behind Enemy Lines
Generation kill (Series)
Full metal jacket
Platoon  
Bravo2Zero (Series)
Clear and present danger
Hunt for red October
Zulu (I'd say that was old)
Zulu dawn (that also)
Sharp's Waterloo
Jarheads

I'm sure there is more....
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Don't get me wrong on this but I like watching the documentries about the Brit troops in Afghanistan it shows the comradeship and the low points when someone is lost.The sacrefice the soldiers are making and the pure bravery that they go through to get the job or mission done.I don't watch them for entertainment but in a way of trying to understand the hardships they encounter and my knowledge of the battles they are facing.

Nosher

Like buses, I post this thread and then two decent war movies come along in the same day -

Bridge over the River Kwai and Cockleshell Heroes :) :)
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On Eastern Front partisan movie far better than Definance is "Come & See"

Also do not forget naval war movies - always like "Tora, Tora, Tora" and Midway not too bad. Battle of River Plate/Bismarck all good Brit war movies, but finest naval movie for me was "Das Boot"