Quote from: Leon on 24 October 2012, 09:27:01 PM
Old Glory are knocking theirs out at £35, so we'd be somewhere similar depending on what me and adr sort out.

Yeah - but theirs doesn't include any figures, does it?

If you can do the army packs & buildings for £35, put me down for 10 mate 

I like the idea, thinking of dipping a toe or two into this period and this would be a great way to start

Quote from: nikharwood on 24 October 2012, 09:58:54 PM
Yeah - but theirs doesn't include any figures, does it?

It doesn't?  That's quite pricey then... 

Quote from: Leon on 24 October 2012, 10:21:23 PM
It doesn't?  That's quite pricey then... 

Probably the import duties?

I think the starter set for a bare bones intro into a new period is a great idea, gets my vote.

In fact in the OG 10mm set there is no mealie bag walls or external barricades... Only the final redoubt which seems to be the mealie bags.

The important thing here is to have a compound playable from outside and inside the buildings at least for having the option to allocate 3-4 minis per room.  I Liked a lot the idea to have an external compound for internal fightings. But it should have: Doors (Open, broken), Windows and breakable walls.

In my project I will base the figs depending on the type of units needed on the rulesets I have attached above.  I will wait for the ruleset from Alan to see wether is still valid the basing or not.

Brits:
- Individual bases. 1cmx1cm square base.

Zulus:

I have planned 3 types of basing for them:

- Prince: 1cmx1cm square base.
- Induna (Leaders): 1cmx1cm square base. These are going to be attached to each Iviyo.
- Iviyo:  Bulk of warriors. With 4 types of bases:
        1 Iviyo formed by: 15 warriors
         - 2x 3,5cmx3,5cm: 5 warriors each. Fixed mounted warriors on the base. No removable option.
         - 1x 3,5cmx1,5cm: 3 warriors fixed mounted.
         - 1x 3,5cmx1,5cm: 2 warriors fixed mounted.
        This way I can configure an Iviyo with 15 warriors in a large square are of 7cmx5cm. Hence when there are casualties I can remove stands depending on the number of hits (2,3,5).
   
        Additionally I will have another lot of 30 warriors individually based for: Entering melees in interior buildings, roof placements, move interior rooms, Representing Firing elements or just to adjust figs in an Iviyo when necessary.

In terms of Brits I would go for around 45-50 soldiers and personalities.

What do you think?

The thing I'm a little uncomfortable with is that all this planning indicates that only one heroic but unimportant action seems to be capturing people's imagination. Rorke's Drift deserves to be remembered with great respect, but basing one's armies so as to preclude the major actions like Ishlandwana or Ulundi threatens to leave gamers stranded with a set that they use once every two years after the honeymoon is over, doesn't it? And the Zulu wars lend themselves to campaigning very well too, so it shouldn't be only actual historical engagments that gamers consider.
Of course, if real fanatics are planning to do big battles with figures on individual stands, I can only salute your devotion to the hobby, and hope you have several uninterupted days to fight in, gentlemen.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 October 2012, 11:17:03 AM
it shouldn't be only actual historical engagments that gamers consider

In other words, you can expand the Rorke's Drift set with the Dungeon set, and continue underground! Good idea! 




(And who knows, if you keep tunneling long enough, you may end up in Meso-America).

You caught me!... I had planned to escape from the massacre digging a tunnel from the Redoubt!. The tunnel was the Dungeon Set! 

Quote from: OldenBUA on 25 October 2012, 01:26:11 PM
In other words, you can expand the Rorke's Drift set with the Dungeon set, and continue underground! Good idea! 




(And who knows, if you keep tunneling long enough, you may end up in Meso-America).

Dangerous in South Africa. If you hit gold, Lord Chelmsford's fillibustering ambitions will be just the start, take it from me!

Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 October 2012, 11:17:03 AM
The thing I'm a little uncomfortable with is that all this planning indicates that only one heroic but unimportant action seems to be capturing people's imagination. Rorke's Drift deserves to be remembered with great respect, but basing one's armies so as to preclude the major actions like Ishlandwana or Ulundi threatens to leave gamers stranded with a set that they use once every two years after the honeymoon is over, doesn't it? And the Zulu wars lend themselves to campaigning very well too, so it shouldn't be only actual historical engagments that gamers consider.

Hear, hear. Rourkes Drift was feted and talked-up at the time simply to take the public's mind off the disaster at Ishlandwana. If Chelmsford had won at the latter battle would we still remember Rourke's Drift?

BIG IF and if he had won would it have happenedtat all? 

Probably not, as the Zulus would have had their hands full. However, I agree that Chelmsford and his cohorts managed to make things as difficult as possible for themselves.

They contributed a fair amount of misery to the future of my unhappy country too. There are other men from our history I'd particularly like to kick in the honeymoon department, but Chelmsford is definitely on the list. After Rhodes and Mandela, however.

That's an interesting list, FK. I'm surprised at the inclusion of Mandela, though. I thought, from our distant perspective, that he was well on the way to beatification. 

Don't get me started on the list of promises made and not kept, double standards, and sheer smug incompetence (which isn't really a plural, so I beg forgiveness for a rupture in structure).
Let's just say the world has a guilty conscience about SA and wants to believe in the great redeemer. Though why we can't make a hero of someone like Desmond Tutu, who's worth twenty Mandelas....

Quote from: nikharwood on 24 October 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Hi Alan - great to see you on the forum...this sounds great to me & I'd definitely buy this as a set if it gets made; the Zulu conflict was my first 'proper' foray into wargaming of my own accord, aged 10 or so - and I've been meaning to revisit it for years 

Would love to see this in production and would defiantly be buying have already started on building my zulu war british army

Hi guys, sorry for delay replying since my initial message in October re Rorkes Drift Buildings.

Like your comments folks

We've been busy at Pendraken HQ castings and 4 shows in a row !! last being Pudsey.

I have finally made a fully painted MDF model for the Rorkes Drift buildings and also the enlarged Hospital model. ( together with bunk beds!!)

I will post some pics on the site and see what you all think. If you have the whole set then I am looking at £38 plus some postage? will split set if wanted.

You can check out my website for now - http://www.hokaheywargaming.co.uk  look at sales tab.

I will speak to Leon regarding the Zulu army pack configuration tomorrow at work.

Cheers folks -regards Alan

Quote from: adr on 02 December 2012, 09:27:53 PM
Hi guys, sorry for delay replying since my initial message in October re Rorkes Drift Buildings.

Like your comments folks

We've been busy at Pendraken HQ castings and 4 shows in a row !! last being Pudsey.

I have finally made a fully painted MDF model for the Rorkes Drift buildings and also the enlarged Hospital model. ( together with bunk beds!!)

I will post some pics on the site and see what you all think. If you have the whole set then I am looking at £38 plus some postage? will split set if wanted.

You can check out my website for now - http://www.hokaheywargaming.co.uk  look at sales tab.

I will speak to Leon regarding the Zulu army pack configuration tomorrow at work.

Cheers folks -regards Alan

Hi Alan,

I'm interested in just the hospital for non Rorke's Drift reasons: looks like it might make a nice fantasy inn, manor house or similar!  What are its rough dimensions please, and how much will it cost on its own?

Cheers,

Meirion

I missed this before - I think you should give it its own topic with pictures etc

Having looked at the linked pictures, I'm not certain what you are selling. Is it a flat pack large MDF hospital, is this laser cut with joints to fit together, does it need gluing?

The whole RD base, is this the buildings, or the sand bags as well? Again what are these made of?

Quote from: FierceKitty on 28 October 2012, 01:38:17 AM
They contributed a fair amount of misery to the future of my unhappy country too. There are other men from our history I'd particularly like to kick in the honeymoon department, but Chelmsford is definitely on the list. After Rhodes and Mandela, however.

Yes, we have conveniently forgotten that he was co-founder of the armed wing of the ANC, and as such as much a terrorist as members of other organisations, ( take your pick here - IRA Baeder Nmeinhof , Taliban/ Al quaeda)  The only difference between the two is if you believe in what they are fighting for.

One mans terorist is the next ones freedom fighter.