Starting the war of 1866

Started by Charon, 22 September 2012, 10:00:58 AM

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Chad

Lemmey

Now you got me confused. The prints from grosser-generalstab and other Knotel images, show a uniform that is closer to Wurtemmburg. No sign of a pickelhaube.

Chad

mollinary

Love a challenge!  The Oldenburgers had two active battalions in 1866, and 3 in IR 91 in 1870. They carried flags which dated from 1822 in the case of the 1st battalion, and 1837 for the other two.   The basic design was the same for all three, and was identical on each side of the flag.  The field was cornflower blue, and had a gold fringe on the three open sides.  In the centre, resting on an ermine mantle surmounted by a crown, was a fairly complex coat of arms.  The whole ensemble was surrounded by two green laurels prigs, crossed at the base. In the corners were crowned golden monograms, surrounded by laurels. The crowns on the two lower corners were on the upper side angled towards the centre of the flag, those on the upper corners were also on the top side, angled towards the flag corners.  The monogram for the 1822 flag was PFL, on the other two PFA.  Now for that complicated central shield!  Divided into six parts: top right, top left; centre right, centre left; bottom right, bottom left -all as you look the flag.  Topright, a yellow field with two dark blue lions, one over the other, passant gardent (like the English ones). Top left, a yellow lion rampant, facing left, on a red field.  Centre right, a red field with a white swan standing, both wings raised. Centre left,  a red field with an unidentifiable (by me,anyway!) central device, largely white, triangular with point down, and a red centre. Bottom right, a yellow field with a black, left facing lion rampant.  Bottom left, red field with a knight on a white horse facing left.

But that is not all!  Over the whole thing was a small heart shield? This has a crown above it, and is divided into four. Top right is a dark standing cross on a light background. Top left is a field of horizontal red and yellow stripes. Bottom right, a red an white chess board pattern.
Bottom left, and unidentifiable device in gold on a light background.  I'll look for any more I can find, I have a couple of leads that might be able to help me refine the shield emblems a bit.

Well, you did ask!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

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mollinary

The coat of arms is the same as the one on the conjectural Oldenburg flag on The Napflags section of the Warflag site, but resting on an ermine mantle.

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

26 September 2012, 05:24:18 PM #23 Last Edit: 26 September 2012, 06:03:53 PM by mad lemmey
Now I have to paint that in 10mm!
:o
Nice one sire!  8)
The 1866 uniform is closer to the Wurttenberg, I checked once I got home  in armies of 1866 by picklehabe press.
Never mind being corrected.



ps The cockade in 1870 WAS red and blue on the left, black and white on the right, I knew it was different! The cuffs are piped red, but I missed the detail of two white bars of litzen lace...
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Charon

Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 September 2012, 05:24:18 PM
Now I have to paint that in 10mm!


seems pointless to do just the one - paint two and send me one  ;D

Excellent stuff chaps, thank you!

Duke Speedy of Leighton

I've got one in a unit already! I'll give it a go over the weekend... IF it works I'll do you one!
Anyone got any pictures of it? The image in The Armies of 1866 is not good!
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Chad

Lemmey

No problem. It was just that I had bought 10mm Wurttemburg figures for both W'burg and Oldenburg.  :-SS

Chad

Duke Speedy of Leighton

Ahh, here we go!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Deutsches_Reich_-_Grossherzogtum_Oldenburg.png
I think this may take the WHOLE weekend, unless I shrink it and print it...
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Charon

definitely shrink and print or you'll go blind  ;D

mollinary

Well done, Lemmey, that answers all the questions!

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cameronian

surrounded by two green laurels prigs

LOL, did you mean 'sprigs' or are the laurels as tiresome as you when you're banging on about your bloody flags  ;D  ;D  ;D
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cameronian

 ... and before you say anything, no you're not tiresome in the least.
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Quote from: cameronian on 27 September 2012, 08:12:35 PM
surrounded by two green laurels prigs

LOL, did you mean 'sprigs' or are the laurels as tiresome as you when you're banging on about your bloody flags  ;D  ;D  ;D

=O =O =O
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

29 September 2012, 04:30:09 PM #33 Last Edit: 29 September 2012, 04:33:03 PM by mad lemmey
An hour of pratting about, this is as far as i have got with the flag, anyone want to take it further...  :P


Shrunk to .9cm high, it looks pretty decent, honest!   ;D >:(

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Charon

Looks bloody good to my uneducated eyes! Excellent work Lemmey

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

29 September 2012, 05:34:15 PM #36 Last Edit: 29 September 2012, 06:26:38 PM by mad lemmey
Thanks chaps, really appreciate that. It's on my photobucket if anyone wants it.

It's only a wiki shot of the ducal coat of arms using 'sniping tool, which I also used to copy and shrink the crown, some free clip arts for laurel wreaths, and a bit of dodgy text...

Someone else did all the hard work, I just 'borrowed it!
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Tried printing it last night and it is more green than blue in it's background, will attempt a recolour later...  :'(
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Techno

Looking forward to seeing those finished Lemmey.  :-bd
Cheers - Phil.

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