Quote from: Techno on 20 August 2012, 11:39:27 AM
Right chaps.
Quick question (s) re the Vets and the Libyan Javelins !
In reality, how long would the veterans' spears have been ? And....
Would I be right in assuming that the javelins for the Libyans would have been around 6 feet long ?

The figures themselves are just about done, apart from those items.

Ta - Phil.

Veterans were former lybian, iberian and italic soldiers of Hannibal, so I think that a long thrusting spear like the one in the current lybian spearmen, or if you prefer, long as the latin hasta of the new Triarii could be right.
6 Feet long for a javelin looks way too long imho.

P.s. Excellent work Techno

Many thanks for the input Phobos.

The cunning plan is....
Finish the little chaps off...Post some photos...
If the javelins look a little on the long side, it will be the work of moments to cut/grind them down a tiny bit.

Really pleased you like them so far 'P' !

Cheers - Phil

Another idea, stolen shamely from Angus Mc Bride plates: Falcatas in their scabbards for the veterans, This way they don´t look like "other" Romans.

Another cunning plan !
Thanks - Phil.

EEEK !!
Someone shrink the piccy !! Please !!......By 50 % ?? (More ??)
Libyans and vet's.
Cheers - Phil.

These look very nice (the falcata on the figure to the right has been done exceptionally well I thought). May I put forth two observations please?

a) The leg guards on the veterans to my eye look a tad out of scale i.e. oversized.

b) Regarding the spear on the third figure from the left i.e. the spear holding veteran; could we please have the spear pointing upwards and closer to his body as he would have held it in battle. This pose (and again this is just in my opinion) looks as if he is standing guard and not about to enter battle.

In all other respects these are lovely indeed. 

Nice one Techno!

Quote from: Theo on 30 August 2012, 04:51:27 PM
These look very nice (the falcata on the figure to the right has been done exceptionally well I thought). May I put forth two observations please?

a) The leg guards on the veterans to my eye look a tad out of scale i.e. oversized.

b) Regarding the spear on the third figure from the left i.e. the spear holding veteran; could we please have the spear pointing upwards and closer to his body as he would have held it in battle. This pose (and again this is just in my opinion) looks as if he is standing guard and not about to enter battle.

In all other respects these are lovely indeed. 

Thanks Theo.

I'll see if I can 'thin' the leg guards just a tad...(I understand exactly what you mean)..The problem with ankles and shins, is that if we make them too thin, (i.e..much more lifelike in proportion) they cause problems in the casting and end up becoming too fragile once cast.
Looking at the actual model, I'm really not sure how far I dare go....They look a far worse blown up 2 1/2 to 3 times as you see them in the piccy ....honestly !

I'll tweak the arm.
Pants !.....I thought I'd put in a wire in the arm and I could just chop a bit of putty out, bend it into position and then fill it in with a tiny bit of new green stuff. WRONG !
I'll re-do that tomorrow morning. (Nurse...the screens !....armechtomy and we'll stitch a new one on.)

Cheers - Phil.

Remember how your feet and ankles swell while marching, everyone.

Quote from: Techno on 30 August 2012, 07:50:56 PM
Thanks Theo.

I'll see if I can 'thin' the leg guards just a tad...(I understand exactly what you mean)..The problem with ankles and shins, is that if we make them too thin, (i.e..much more lifelike in proportion) they cause problems in the casting and end up becoming too fragile once cast.
Looking at the actual model, I'm really not sure how far I dare go....They look a far worse blown up 2 1/2 to 3 times as you see them in the piccy ....honestly !

I'll tweak the arm.
Pants !.....I thought I'd put in a wire in the arm and I could just chop a bit of putty out, bend it into position and then fill it in with a tiny bit of new green stuff. WRONG !
I'll re-do that tomorrow morning. (Nurse...the screens !....armechtomy and we'll stitch a new one on.)

Cheers - Phil.

Needless to say Phil I am the first to admit I know next to nothing about sculpting/casting and I totally respect what you are saying about them needing to be a tad thicker to avoid weak ankles. For what it's worth I am full of admiration for what sculptors like yourself can do and quite a bit thankful as well, as it is via your talents that we get all those lovely miniatures!  Keep'em coming please! 

Quote from: FierceKitty on 30 August 2012, 11:29:11 PM
Remember how your feet and ankles swell while marching, everyone.

Well said FK !! ( Damn....Wish I'd thought of that one ! )
Thanks again Theo !.....I forgot to say I was really pleased you liked the falcata.
Rather than thinning the 'leg guards'....I think they might look a tad better, if I make the 'knee guards' a little less obtrusive and 'sticky out' perhaps ?
I'll give it a whirl.....Won't take long to tweak those.

Cheers - Phil.

Woa, I love the veterans (numidians too) I think that they even get the look with little modifications for celtiberians (With disc breasplate in place of chainmail i.e.)
Agree with Theo, the pose of the spearmen could be more "warmonger", anywayt, they look sweet , nice work Techno!

Thanks Phobos...
Spearman done already....Now to have a go at those 'knees'.
Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 31 August 2012, 06:11:38 AM

Rather than thinning the 'leg guards'....I think they might look a tad better, if I make the 'knee guards' a little less obtrusive and 'sticky out' perhaps ?

that is exactly what I meant mate; the area over the knees not the lower part. The lower part looks fine.

Done !!
Cheers - Phil.