Lists for the new ACW range!

Started by Leon, 07 December 2011, 05:41:08 PM

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Jagger

QuoteSo far, Langton Miniatures ang GHQ do the best 10mm acw guns, cosidering size.
Look at the proportions at my blog:
http://zealandbayonets.blogspot.com/2011/08/artyleria-konfederacji.html
It would be nice to get the same size guns from Pendraken.

Nice photos and definitely better scaled than most 10mm Artillery/crewmen.  But if you notice, the crewmens chins are at the same height as the top of the gun wheels.  So the chin height matches the heigth of the wheels at 5'7" and then you add approximately 10" for the height of the head, those crewmen have to be at least 6'5" tall.  They would make an impressibly tall basketball team even today.   Or the crewmen are average heights and the guns are scaled too small to the crewmen.   :-\

If I remember correctly, the average height during the ACW was somewhere around 5'10".  So basically, the top of the head of the "average" crewmen would only be about 3 inches taller than the top of the wheel of the common artillery carriage.

Still an opportunity to be the one company that realistically scales their 10mm artillery to the crewmen...   :)

Jagger

28 December 2011, 03:31:35 AM #21 Last Edit: 28 December 2011, 03:39:38 AM by Jagger
The 5'7" height is off the top of my head.  I know I looked up the information and found reputable information on the internet about a year ago.  The 5'7" sticks in my mind.  I am trying to relocate the site tonight but if may take a couple searches to find it.  

If anyone lives near a ACW national park battlefield, you can probably go out an measure the wheel height.  Anyone near Gettysburg?  I know they had quite a few guns scattered about.

Jagger

No luck finding the original site yet but I have found a couple of non-specific references which are using 57 inches for wheel height rather than 5'7".   If so, then the wheel height of 57" would be a height of 4'9".  If correct, then the photos linked to by Maciek would be about right.  I have also looked at a couple of ACW photos and drawings and I suspect the 4'9" or 57 inches is probably correct.  I will keep looking to see if I can find something more concrete to the 6,12 and 10 pounders.

http://www.civilwarcannons.com/
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/archive/index.php/t-8752.html

Here is a nice photo but not sure of the specific gun...the barrel looks small.' All the crewmen are taller than the wheel height.
http://www.civilwarartillery.com/

At the moment, it seems my memory converted 57 inches into 5'7"...weird how that happens more and more the older you get.    ~X(

Jagger

Ok, looks like it is pretty concrete that the height was 57".   So Maciek's link gives a pretty good idea of the scale of artillery to crew proportion.  Here is a link, information about half way down; http://www.civilwarartillery.com/books/RobertsHandBookofArtillery.htm#P12ArtCarMach

From "The Hand-book of Artillery, for the Service of the United States, Army and Militia. With the Manual of Heavy Artillery, Including that of the New Iron Carriage"

By Joseph Robert, Major, 4TH Regt. Art., U.S.A., and Colonel ed Penn. Art.

Fifth Edition, Revised and Greatly Enlarged. New York: D. Van Nostrand, 192 Broadway, 1863.

How many kinds of wheels are employed for field carriages?
Two: No. 1 for the 6-pdr. gun-carriage, the Caisson, the forge, the battery-wagon, and for the limbers of all field carriages. No.2 for the 24 and 32-pdr. Howitzer and the 12-pdr. Gun-carriages.

In what respects are these wheels similar ?
They are of the same form and height, and they fit on the same axle-tree arm. The height is 57 inches, and each wheel is composed of 14 spokes and 7 fellies.

How do they differ?
In the dimensions of their parts, and in strength and weight.

What is the weight of these?
No. 1, 180 lbs.; No. 2, 196 lbs.


maciek

Quote... the photos linked to by Maciek would be about right.

QuoteSo Maciek's link gives a pretty good idea of the scale of artillery to crew proportion.

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Having crewed one at one time the wheels are big and the sound is bigger :D :D :D
oh and you want to feel the concussion wave when you are advancing towards one of the buggers,   :-SS :-SS :-SS
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Leman

You're going to need to provide 6pdrs for the early years of the war, especially in the western theatre as an awful lot were used in the first two years, whereas gatling guns etc hardly saw the light of day. I'm not saying don't do gatlings, but rather the 6pdr is a much higher priority for a complete range.
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Jagger

There were a lot of 6 pdrs at Shiloh.  I would imagine the same at Bull Run, Peninsula and Antietam.

Leon

I'll make a note on the 6pdrs, and we'll see what we can get done when it comes round to the artillery.
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Leon

Quick query folks, which extra Generals would be preferred?  The designer has just done the 4 originally listed, so we want to add another 4.

:-\

We'll have some Mounted Staff Officers, and can also look at doing some Generic General-y types if needed.
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Jagger

For the South, Longstreet and Jackson.  For the North, Burnside and Hooker or possibly Meade and Reynolds.

mollinary

For the South Longstreet and Joe Johnston, for the North Little Mac and Burnside.

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Jackson & Sherman

I'd also like McDowell, Beauregard and Johnston, but thats due to a pet project at the moment.


Leon

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a chat with the designer and see which we'll do.

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Leon

30 June 2012, 12:33:16 AM #34 Last Edit: 01 July 2012, 12:07:30 AM by Leon
Right then, this is the current list we're working from, the question now is how many can we squeeze into the July releases?!

ACW1   Union foot, advancing, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW2   Union foot, advancing, type 2      Â£3.50   
ACW3   Union foot, firing, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW4   Union foot, firing, type 2      Â£3.50
ACW5   Union foot, marching, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW6   Union foot, marching, type 2      Â£3.50
ACW7   Confederate foot, advancing, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW8   Confederate foot, advancing, type 2      Â£3.50
ACW9   Confederate foot, firing, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW10   Confederate foot, firing, type 2      Â£3.50
ACW11   Confederate foot, marching, type 1      Â£3.50
ACW12   Confederate foot, marching, type 2      Â£3.50
ACW13   Union foot command, standing    (15)   Â£1.80
ACW14   Union foot command, advancing    (15)   Â£1.80
ACW15   Confederate foot command, standing    (15)   Â£1.80
ACW16   Confederate foot command, advancing    (15)      Â£1.80
ACW17   Zouaves in fez, standing/firing      Â£3.50
ACW18   Zouaves in fez, advancing/attacking      Â£3.50
ACW19   Zouaves in kepi, standing/firing      Â£3.50
ACW20   Zouaves in kepi, advancing/attacking      Â£3.50
ACW21   Zouaves in turban      Â£3.50
ACW22   Zouaves in strawboater      Â£3.50
ACW23   Iron Brigade, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW24   Berdan’s Sharpshooters, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW25   Greatcoat in kepi, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW26   Greatcoat in slouch hat, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW27   Union cavalry, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW28   Confederate cavalry, inc. command      Â£3.50
ACW29   Dismounted cavalry in kepi    (15)   Â£1.80
ACW30   Dismounted cavalry in slouch hat   (15)   Â£1.80
ACW31   Mounted Raiders      Â£3.50
ACW32   Dismounted Raiders   (15)   Â£1.80
ACW33   Union horse holders   (10)   Â£1.20
ACW34   Confederate horse holders   (10)   Â£1.20
ACW35   Standing horses   (10)   Â£2.40
ACW36   Mounted Staff Officers   (5)   Â£1.20
ACW37   General Grant      Â£0.60
ACW38   General Sherman      Â£0.60
ACW39   General          Â£0.60
ACW40   General         Â£0.60
ACW41   General Lee      Â£0.60
ACW42   General Stuart      Â£0.60
ACW43   General         Â£0.60
ACW44   General         Â£0.60
ACW45   Union casualties   (10)   Â£1.20
ACW46   Confederate casualties   (10)   Â£1.20
ACW47   Union cavalry casualties   (5)   Â£1.20
ACW48   Confederate cavalry casualties   (5)   Â£1.20
ACW49   Stretcher bearers   (5)   Â£1.20
ACW50   12lb Napoleon gun
ACW51   10lb Parrot gun
ACW52   3” Ordnance gun
ACW53   12lb Whitworth gun
ACW54   12lb Howitzer
ACW55   20lb Parrot         
ACW56   Union artillery crew, aiming
ACW57   Union artillery crew, firing
ACW58   Confederate artillery crew, aiming
ACW59   Confederate artillery crew, firing


Hopefully I've not missed anything out...!

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mollinary

Holy Howitzers, Batman!

Is that all?


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Ben Waterhouse

Just dipping your toes into the water - Not!  :D

Syr Hobbs

Wow, what a great selection.  I know what I'm doing when I wake up tomorrow morning.

Cheers
Duane

Leon

Remember that not all of those will be released tomorrow!   :o

We'll have around 20 codes I think, then another 20 or so will follow on in the August releases, and another 20 in September.  Or so I'm thinking at the moment...  :D
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