Korean War

Started by james27, 22 June 2012, 09:52:21 PM

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james27

22 June 2012, 09:52:21 PM Last Edit: 22 June 2012, 11:18:16 PM by james27
Hi,
Can anyone point me in the direction of any North Korean, or Chinese Infantry miniatures?  If not what pendraken miniatures I could use/convert?  Thanks.

PS, What would people think of a 10mm Korean War range?

Leon

Strangely, I've just answered this same query on an email recently!  

We don't have any specific figures for Korea, but Dave's said he could put together a special pack using the padded jacket troops from the WWII Russians, so we could do rifles, SMG, mortars, etc. for you?

We do have the Korean War quite high up on our requests lists (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5463.0.html), and it's something we'd be looking to do at some point in the near future, but we've got a few other ranges which we need to finish up first.
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I have an interest in the wars either side of WW2, because they seem more interesting for what they do.

For example the Spanish Civil War has all that early war charm that comes from small tanks and ad hoc militarised vehicles. Vietnam is what happens next, which is airmobile and C3. The Korean war is interesting because it shows what the Allies would have been able to field in a longer running WW2 versus Chicom hordes, a sort of high tech Eastern Front without the Nazi ideology going on.

And of course both of these wars, SCW & Korea, make for a good jump off point for Alternative WW2 scenarios.
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One of my long-term projects is to do the Korean War but bath-tub the entire peninsula onto a single 6x4 table and fight the war

It is still at the "thinking" stage

I can't make up my mind whether I would then play it as a normal game using BKC/CWC with units being able to shoot from Pusan to Seoul or to use Not Quite Mechanised so that only bases in contact fight



Steve J

Special packs to represent Chinese troops would be brilliant :).

james27

Quote from: Leon on 22 June 2012, 11:26:22 PM
Strangely, I've just answered this same query on an email recently!  

We don't have any specific figures for Korea, but Dave's said he could put together a special pack using the padded jacket troops from the WWII Russians, so we could do rifles, SMG, mortars, etc. for you?

We do have the Korean War quite high up on our requests lists (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5463.0.html), and it's something we'd be looking to do at some point in the near future, but we've got a few other ranges which we need to finish up first.

Thanks for that :)
How would I go about ordering one of these packs and do the russians have helmets or fur hats?

Steve J

A quick look at the Russians in Winter Gear showed a mix of headgear as far as I could see.

Leon

Quote from: james27 on 23 June 2012, 06:38:05 PM
How would I go about ordering one of these packs?

Just pop us an email through with a list of what you'd like, we'll price it up and let you know the total.

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Hertsblue

Seems like the KW has been on the wish list for ever. It's a genuine historical period with much to recommend it (as much, if not more, than Vietnam) and there would appear to be a fair amount of support. So, how about it, Leon?  :)
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Seconded Hertsblue - 10mm Centurion Tanks - lovely!
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Quote from: robert on 25 June 2012, 09:43:03 AM
Seconded Hertsblue - 10mm Centurion Tanks - lovely!

Hear hear! Centurions against T-34s, mouthwatering prospect!

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Not exactly a challenge Cent-T34, now if you can win with a Cromwell, Chaffee or Churchill 7.

Add my vote.

IanS

PS - note no mention of weird 18th cent headgraer or feathered mezo-americans.  :d
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Sunray

26 June 2012, 10:54:32 AM #12 Last Edit: 26 June 2012, 11:38:21 AM by Sunray
I gamed Korea in 15mm and 20mm plastic whilst working in the States.  I have to say that Korea with its rugged mountains, narrow passes, steep valleys with water logged bottoms is not tank country. Tank battles were rare.

There are about six "good" tank actions.

1.   5 July 1950 Chouni T 34/85s aganist M24's .
2   10 July        Chouni  T34s against the only three M26's in the Korea
3  20 July    great skirmish action in Taejon with 3.5 Bazook teams v T34s
4  Aug         M4A3 in action in Pusan pocket against T34
5 Sept        Inchon ..M26 v T34s and SU-76
6 16 Sept       Pusan pocket breakout 13 T34 against 2 M4s lost

The PLA force of 200,000 was unique in modern warfare as it had no tanks.
So from November 1950 tank battles were over. I served with a Vet of KRIH and he told grim stories - not of tank battles - but of their Centurions facing waves of Chinese armed with TNT satches. On the failed attempt to relieve the Gloucesters , the Hussars came back with tracks covered in blood and human tissue.  For Gloucesters there was no relief that day, but thats another story.

In post war G2 analysis only 16% of T34s were destroyed by UN tanks. A staggering 60% were destroyed by Napalm.

Hope this is useful.  Korean tank games are possible - a small unit of M24s and M4s holding out against a hord of T34s - hoping the weather will clear for an airstrike  will give a good game that hangs on fortunes of war -the "dice throw" to you and me gamers

Sunray out

mijalo

Historically so, but we are wargaming, so not necessarily engaged in 100% accuracy at all times. If so, lets forget about VBCW or Steampunk et al.
If I want Centurions punching holes in T-34s, that's my prerogative  >:(

Sunray

26 June 2012, 01:51:47 PM #14 Last Edit: 26 June 2012, 01:57:18 PM by Sunray
Absolutely old boy....it is but a game we play.  If you really want to punch holes in T34s nothing to stop you using any MTB you want...
as long as your opponient agrees. !!   :o :o
 The dichotomy being that Korea happened and VBCW is fictional.   But even then we stick to the context of period, and agree the kit on the table

 My main observation is that Korea was not tank country.  If you want the Centurion to show just how good a bit of kit it was, try  scanarios like Vietnam, India/Pakistan  or Six Day war.  The satisfaction of that 105 punching holes in T54s, M48s and even T62s is ...off the scale.   Even Cold War where the Danes wiere willing to pitch the Cent against the mighty T72 !

My joy in gaming is being against the odds, so a rear guard action of M4s with Vet crews against hords of green T34s is a challanging game ..

Anyway happy gaming ...and do send us a battle report/images

Sunray out