Games Workshop on the BBC

Started by Luddite, 13 March 2012, 12:42:52 PM

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Interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17274186

+40% half yearly profits eh?

Failcast must be bringing home the bacon...
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Can't deny that they're a success story. 
Some of my first figures were GW (actually Citadel.  It was the 80's). In fact I keep tripping over them.

Hope some of this coverage leeches over into the hobby as a whole.

Leon

I've got to say the 40% increase came as a surprise to me, moreso that their fanbase has continued to buy into Finecast and all it's bubbly glory...

The comment from the GW rep shows just how far detached from reality (and real gamers) they actually are.  But they're successful, so why should they care?    =)
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I can't be bothered to look up the figures, but hadn't GW had a big drop in profits recently, therefore a 40% increase from not a lot isn't that great?  They certainly shut jobs to in the last year or two which may have brought costs under control.

But what they sell still appeals, the group I game with while heavily in to Warmaster, has several people who still buy Warhammer figures to add to already large armies that they have built over years. To them while the prices are high, they have suffiecnt disposable income to buy new toys. Personally I never got in to Warhammer when army lists ruled, so have no attachment to the rules or figures. I'd much rather have hordes of 10mm.
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Quote from: Leon on 13 March 2012, 04:11:54 PM
The comment from the GW rep shows just how far detached from reality (and real gamers) they actually are.

Mark Wells is the CEO.  If you can believe it he used to be customer service director at Boots...
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Quote from: Leon on 13 March 2012, 04:11:54 PM
I've got to say the 40% increase came as a surprise to me

Rather than look up the accounts again, I'm being lazy and just quoting myself from a post I made in wd3 back in January ( wow I must be really important if I'm quoting myself :) )

'yep its a bit difficult to get a clear picture for the UK. For the core gaming business, the UK revenues are down marginally on the same period last year (14.8m vs 14.9m). Remembering that last year was pretty poor anyway, it does seem to indicate that UK sales are at best stagnant. However the profit by sector is much harder to deduce since they don't break it down properly by market sector - most of the profit is allocated to the central product manufacturing division. 

The main areas of core business profitability growth are North American and Production (which could mean anything). On top of that they are getting some nice little earners from licensing (esp the Space Marine video game) and Black Library/Forgeworld (i suspect Black Library is the lions share of this)

Australia still seems to be a basket case - despite the various attempts to kill off independent discounters in that market.

Next year sees 40k 6th edition and The Hobbit - i guess they are hoping they will both keep the tills chiming for them for some time to come......'
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Quote from: fred  12df on 13 March 2012, 05:22:42 PM
But what they sell still appeals, the group I game with while heavily in to Warmaster, has several people who still buy Warhammer figures to add to already large armies that they have built over years. To them while the prices are high, they have suffiecnt disposable income to buy new toys. Personally I never got in to Warhammer when army lists ruled, so have no attachment to the rules or figures. I'd much rather have hordes of 10mm.

Hi Fred.
Just checking....But GW did drop Warmaster quite a while ago now, didn't they ?....Even though from what I understand, it still has a fair old following.
Did anyone take on 'the licence' for Warmaster ?....I take so little notice of GW nowadays, that the only news I hear is from places like here in the forum, or if someone mails me with something like "Have you seen this ?".....Almost always something to do with the prices of new figures !
Cheers - Phil.

Luddite

Warmaster active support has been dropped but its available as a free download via their 'specialist games' section of the GW website.

Rick Priestly (who quit GW to spend more time writing and playing decent wargames rules) also continues to support it alongside Warmaster Ancients i think, although his website appears to have ceased.
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fred.

GW and Warmaster is a bit mixed, as Luddite says the printed rules were dropped, but made available as a PDF. The majority of the figures are still available by mail order, but the alternate unit figures and the whole Kislev army were discontinued. There are continued rumours that the figures will be dropped "next year". Personally I have bought very few  WM figs directly from GW, most have come from eBay.

I think even Warmaster Ancients is now out of print as well.

The Battle of Five Armies boxed set with plastic 10mm figures seemed to be the start of a range but is a one-off. I suspect this will at least continue to be available until the Hobbit film is released.
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Legate

"Warhammer 40,000's mixture of realistic turns-based strategy gaming..." :o

Funny, says right in the first part of the sentence that they are talking about WH40k, but surely the last part of the quote is referring to some other unnamed war game. ;)

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15 March 2012, 01:41:28 PM #12 Last Edit: 15 March 2012, 01:43:15 PM by Luddite
Quote from: Legate on 15 March 2012, 04:05:45 AM
"Warhammer 40,000's mixture of realistic turns-based strategy gaming..." :o

Funny, says right in the first part of the sentence that they are talking about WH40k, but surely the last part of the quote is referring to some other unnamed war game. ;)

What do you mean?

Its an utterly faithful, accurate, and realistic modelling of combat in the 41st Millennium.

In 38,000 years we will definately be able to destroy an entire planet by virus bombing it from the edge of the planetary system, and yet our genetically enhanced elite supersoldiers (in power armour that can stop a nuclear bomb and wielding rapid fire rocket launchers) will still ride into battle on a wolf in order to get to grips with our enemies and punch them to death.

40K realistically models that.

:)
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