Archery question.

Started by Techno 3, 02 January 2025, 11:18:52 AM

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Sorry, I still haven't found the flight feather markings.
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fsn

Hmmm ...

Think you may have to be more specific Techno. English longbow archers put the arrow to the inside, Japanese to the outside - as Gwydion states.

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Last Hussar

Just to be contrary...
"Fire" a bow has usage as early as the 14th century.

There is a guy on YouTube who does shorts about using a bow, and he has examples of having the arrow on both sides.
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QuoteJust to be contrary...
"Fire" a bow has usage as early as the 14th century.
Clearly:


Duke Speedy of Leighton

FSN , basically, yes.

Now, where is Nik with pictures of Kiera as an archer.
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Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 January 2025, 08:17:01 PMJust to be contrary...
"Fire" a bow has usage as early as the 14th century.

Really? I'd love to see some evidence.
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pierre the shy

Somewhat related comment.....

Remember watching an episode of "Dogfights" many years ago about Phantoms (F-4's that is  :P ) in Vietnam and one of the aircrew saying something very similar...."when you are engaging other aircraft you never say "fire" in a plane.....its always "shoot".".
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Gwydion

I too would be interested in evidence for use of the word 'fire' being used in the sense of shooting an arrow from a bow prior to the idea of 'giving fire' to ignite the gunpowder in a projectile weapon.

(Actually I'd be quite interested to know of the first use of the term crossing over from firearms to bows-  Ascham in his Toxophilus: The School of Shooting, 1545, mentions shooting a bow a lot (and talks of the loose)- he does use the word fire but only in relation to not letting your bow get near a fire, or setting the ends on fire to set fire to something shot at.

If there are mentions (not modern mistranslations) of medieval archers using the term 'fire a bow' in contemporary works let us know!

FierceKitty

QuoteJust to be contrary...
"Fire" a bow has usage as early as the 14th century.


Source, please? I've tried in vain to find one, and I'm rather interested.
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Steve J

From memory it was always "knock, draw, loose" when I did field archery.

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QuoteFSN , basically, yes.

Now, where is Nik with pictures of Kiera as an archer.

Here we go ...

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FierceKitty

Quote from: Steve J on 03 January 2025, 07:30:28 AMFrom memory it was always "knock, draw, loose" when I did field archery.

Nock, I'd guess.
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Always thought the term fire was an abreivated version "Give Fire" used with the Hackbus etc.
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I thought the term "fire" for sending a missile at the enemy was derived form putting fire to the primer or fuse of a gunpowder weapon. Prior to this why would you use "Fire" for bows, slings or spears.
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Steve J

QuoteNock, I'd guess.

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