Project Log: 10mm Pike and Shot Armies of the Late 1500s

Started by willphillips, 01 August 2023, 09:01:41 PM

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I started tinkering around with rules for the era a few years back after being dissatisfied with Warmaster, not that interested in Black Powder/Pike and Shotte, and being so-so with Impetus/Baroque. The plan was to move into a 6mm project for the idea, but that puttered out as I quickly found that 6mm wasn't quite to my liking.

The project lay dormant for a few years, but I've returned to it in recent months with a move up to 10mm scale. I'm finding I like it much more and am more apt to spend time painting than I was with 6mm.

Here's two recent units: a big blob of schwarze reiters (100x100mm) and a small skirmishing base of Irish gallowglass, kern, & shot (50x50mm).

Figures are a mix of Pendraken and old GW Warmaster (for the cavalry).







More photos can be found on my blog:

https://tabletop.willphillips.org/2023/07/10mm-reiters-and-irish-gallowglass-kerns/

As well as my history Instagram and Facebook pages:

https://www.instagram.com/rebelsorbeggars/

https://www.facebook.com/rebelsorbeggars

Will be posting updates here as the project churns along. While I look to revise the rules I was working on eventually, my goal right now is just getting units painted.

There's a lot of fiddly pikes to worry about for this (which I have yet to really feel confident in a solution for)!

sunjester

They look rather tasty, I especially like the striped cloak on the Irish base.


fred.

Great work on these two units - really like the mix of figures on the bases. 

I think you said on LAF that the cavalry was a mix of GW Warmaster and Pendraken - and I am now starting to pick out some of the Empire pistoleers in that big mass of horse. 
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Thank you for the kind words.

The painting itself is really pretty fast and loose, aiming for speed and a tabletop standard. My poor photography helps obscure the lack of details!

But the nice thing is, en masse and at this scale, I'm finding my eye doesn't pick up on what I've ignored. The mass of figures as a single, cohesive vignette is what I focus on.

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Quote from: fred. on 02 August 2023, 07:20:12 AMGreat work on these two units - really like the mix of figures on the bases.

Thanks. I really want some variety to my units, which is something I appreciate in Leon usually providing an alternate pose or two.

Quote from: fred. on 02 August 2023, 07:20:12 AMI think you said on LAF that the cavalry was a mix of GW Warmaster and Pendraken - and I am now starting to pick out some of the Empire pistoleers in that big mass of horse.

Yep! A big larger than Pendraken and usually sporting the plumes on hats and helmets.

But I find the size variations are not a visual problem at arm's length on the tabletop.

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Have recent written a short tutorial on the fast-and-loose approach I'm taking to basing my small scale project.

In case anyone else is intimidated by it, here's what I've figured out as a fellow newcomer to the small stuff.

https://tabletop.willphillips.org/2023/08/easy-small-scale-basing-flocking-tutorial/

Using this newly finished 50x50mm base of Forlorn Hope as an example:




pierre the shy

Your stuff looks excellent Will  :-bd

Is the black area for the units label - unit name, troop type, strength etc?

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Quote from: pierre the shy on 03 August 2023, 09:10:22 PMYour stuff looks excellent Will  :-bd

Is the black area for the units label - unit name, troop type, strength etc?



Yeah, it's a magnetic strip. so I can affix a metal-backed label on top.

Since the plan is to build out enough generic-ish units to field two armies and then fight hypothetical/generic pike and shot era battles as well as historical re-fights, I need to keep them generic.

Plus, having a lot of units on the board, it'll be helpful to easily identify them at a distance.

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Looking great! I love the late 16th century (French Wars of Religion anyone?). Beautiful brushwork and basing.
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I'll do this later

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At the risk of being sacrilegious, I will mention that Warmonger has a 10mm range of fantasy/historical late 16th century sculpted by Bob Naismith. Landsknecht in pluderhosen, reiters, gendarmes, etc. i think they are intended to be used for Warmaster armies. They are cheap however. I had a heap of them but ended up selling them off. They were decent sculpts but for whatever reason I wasn't too keen on them.
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(Crossposted from my gaming blog: https://tabletop.willphillips.org/2024/04/10mm-pike-shot-militia-levy-and-irish-skirmishers/)

Emulating the battles of the pike and shot era has been something of a white whale. I've quickly gotten intimidated by – or otherwise disinterested in – the sheer scale of such an undertaking each time I've embarked on the idea.

First time in 6mm. Then in 10mm. I last worked on this project during the summer of 2023.

After I stalled out on a recent smaller-footprint, hex-based skirmish project in the era (not posted here – see my Rebels or Beggars Instagram), I've come back to this.

Last week's project was to knock the dust and rust off. Here's a 100x50mm pike & shot unit, same footprint militia levy, and a 50x50mm unit of Irish skirmishers. Mostly Pendraken with a smattering of old GW Warmaster figures and – for the militia – some Forest Dragon.

One of my longer term* interests is to bring a wargame of a battle from the Dutch Revolt or French Wars of Religion to an SCA event as something of an interactive class on warfare during the pike and shot" era of the 1500s and 1600s.

Lots of units remain to be based and painted, including three monster sized 100x100mm tercios. Oof.

That said, here are some photos. I remain a bad photographer.









Next up? Two 100x50mm bases of Stradioti and a small 50x50mm base of shot.

I'll be posting progress pics on my history-focused Instagram and Facebook pages named Rebels or Beggars:

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