Pendraken Painting Competition 2023!

Started by Leon, 13 January 2023, 12:53:00 AM

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mmcv

It's been raised before, but wondering if worth revisiting splitting Pre-20th C Foot into two categories, Pre and Post gunpowder? Then you have all the pretty uniforms in one category and hodgepodge armies in the other (mostly...).

Still pondering some of my votes in a few categories, so very difficult to choose. I did laugh at fsn's headless children though, well played sir.

fsn

Indeed. Some most excellent brushwork on display. 


If nothing else, I am honoured that amongst the dwarves, trolls, elementals and beastmen is ... Gerald. 
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19th_century_octopus

Ale and Federico, what do you use on the bases of your soldiers, it looks very nice and realistic, and I love the tufts :-bd

Federico

Thank you Octopus! Our bases are 40x40mm mdf 2mm thick bought on Pendraken site with the most classic mix of vinilic glue and sand, for the paint we use for both army, table and items bases just 2 different hues of wall paint (cheaper and well covering), actually the brighter one was a leftover of our hobby cave walls repaint.
The tufts are from different brands, miniNatur for me, Greenstuff and Gamers Grass for Ale.  :)
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19th_century_octopus

Quote from: Federico on 02 March 2023, 08:19:29 PMThank you Octopus! Our bases are 40x40mm mdf 2mm thick bought on Pendraken site with the most classic mix of vinilic glue and sand, for the paint we use for both army, table and items bases just 2 different hues of wall paint (cheaper and well covering), actually the brighter one was a leftover of our hobby cave walls repaint.
The tufts are from different brands, miniNatur for me, Greenstuff and Gamers Grass for Ale.  :)
Thank you very much, that is very helpful as I really love the effect it gives and would love to try it out

Rhys

Just as an observation for next year, some painters have not done themselves favours with the pictures. I found some just too dark to see what was going on.
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Shecky

QuoteJust as an observation for next year, some painters have not done themselves favours with the pictures. I found some just too dark to see what was going on.

I'll admit, that's one thing I've always struggled with. I know there are basics to good photography but I have no idea how to execute them.

streetgang

Quote from: Shecky on 05 March 2023, 04:35:44 AMI'll admit, that's one thing I've always struggled with. I know there are basics to good photography but I have no idea how to execute them.

There are several good YouTube videos out there to help. I used to use a DSLR camera but just use a Samsung phone camera nowadays. A couple sheets of white paper and lights overtop and in front of the miniatures does well.
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Raider4


QuoteI'll admit, that's one thing I've always struggled with. I know there are basics to good photography but I have no idea how to execute them.
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The Baron

QuoteJust as an observation for next year, some painters have not done themselves favours with the pictures. I found some just too dark to see what was going on.
I really struggle with getting the photography right.  Living at the bottom of a valley in an old house(small windows) means that natural light is at a premium and I rely on a "selfie circle" light for extra illumination.  But my biggest problem seems to be getting the focus right, especially on the real close ups
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Federico

To keep it simple, use 2 sources of light from right and left with a 45 degrees angle to the subject. better to use similar lamps to avoid different chromatic dominants (cold or warm tones for both the sources). if the light is too harsh you can apply some backing paper on the lamps to soften it.
Set a back drop with some white or light grey paper, dark colours tend to trick internal light meter thus to overexpose the subject.
If you don't have a table tripod, use something flat like a small box to keep steady your phone (or something bigger if you use a digital camera).
Generally speaking recent devices have a lot of pixels to work with, so if you want you can take the picture from a slightly greater distance and then crop the image after the shot. This will allow to reduce the blurred effect, if you stay very close to the subject you'll have less depth of field and also the minimal movement will blur your shot.
Most important look at the miniature before shooting and choose your point of view, when in doubt better a picture more and a final evaluation in a following moment.
That's exactly how I took my pictures with my 5 years old samsung phone.
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mollinary


QuoteTo keep it simple, use 2 sources of light from right and left with a 45 degrees angle to the subject. better to use similar lamps to avoid different chromatic dominants (cold or warm tones for both the sources). if the light is too harsh you can apply some backing paper on the lamps to soften it.
Set a back drop with some white or light grey paper, dark colours tend to trick internal light meter thus to overexpose the subject.
If you don't have a table tripod, use something flat like a small box to keep steady your phone (or something bigger if you use a digital camera).
Generally speaking recent devices have a lot of pixels to work with, so if you want you can take the picture from a slightly greater distance and then crop the image after the shot. This will allow to reduce the blurred effect, if you stay very close to the subject you'll have less depth of field and also the minimal movement will blur your shot.
Most important look at the miniature before shooting and choose your point of view, when in doubt better a picture more and a final evaluation in a following moment.
That's exactly how I took my pictures with my 5 years old samsung phone.
Oops! Looks like I have been doing it all wrong - I just put the room lights on, rest my iPad on the table, point at the figures, and click! 
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Federico

Quote from: mollinary on 05 March 2023, 12:02:06 PMOops! Looks like I have been doing it all wrong - I just put the room lights on, rest my iPad on the table, point at the figures, and click!


No no your shoots are perfect if you want to show your beautiful miniatures set on the gaming table. No harsh and dark shadows and everything in light. It just does perfectly the work.
I was talking about the "technical" picture to show in a close up the single base or a few. My bad I didn't mention
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Federico

QuoteOops! Looks like I have been doing it all wrong - I just put the room lights on, rest my iPad on the table, point at the figures, and click!

If I may add, your work is fantastic.
And in your way you did what I was saying, holding firmly your iPad on the table surface, shooting from a distance and having a soft diffuse light on the subject.
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The Baron

I've found that my, admittedly ancient, iPad isn't up to getting the close ups sharp.  I do have a "proper" DSLR camera which I used for work but have never got to grips with the correct settings for macro work.  Sounds like I have to get on that learning curve :D
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