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If you have the chance I recommend you try to see it. I have a dvd but don't know if you can still get it.

Quote from: Chad on 02 November 2022, 08:57:27 AMSteve J

I watched the film last night and agree with you regarding the original. I thought the characters played second fiddle to the action elements and if I recall the original correctly, there were no elements dealing with the General staff and Armistice discussions. The final sequence in the original involving the butterfly is far more evocative than the final sequences of this film. Overall very disappointed.

Watched it last night and I agree.  I thought it was a well enough made WW1 war action film, much better than 1917, but it bore little relationship to the book, or the two earlier films and misses the point entirely.  One of the principal themes of the book is the changing relationship between Paul, his family and acquaintances at home, who retain their jingoistic and nationalistic attitudes, and his comrades at the front.  He becomes increasingly distanced from the former, such that he feels greater affinity with the latter.  This latest film completely fails to explore that and concentrates entirely on the action.  The introduction of the Armistice negotiations were an addition that added nothing.  The ending was a complete departure and utter BS.  All we are told in the book is that Paul, the last survivor of his group, falls in October 1918 on a day that the Army, ironically, reports "Im Westen nichts Neues".

Saw B/W original many years ago. Was not too impressed... but for it's time... probably a great.
Yes... had lot of character progression. Myself... like well done action if realistic... but if you cannot 'care' about a character... not much point.
The Butterfly ending scene 'MADE' the film.

Have just re-watched 'The Pacific' TVM. A bit too much home/leave for me... but if you want character progression... and horrors of war...

Watched it today, as I've got nowt else to do with this bug.
Really thoughful and well produced war movie, I thought is played out very well.
I've not seen the originals, but I enjoyed it in it's horrific way. Deserving of its Academy Award nominations.
W

Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 31 January 2023, 09:54:58 PMWatched it today, as I've got nowt else to do with this bug.
Really thoughful and well produced war movie, I thought is played out very well.
I've not seen the originals, but I enjoyed it in it's horrific way. Deserving of its Academy Award nominations.
W

I really enjoyed it too, but I've never seen the originals or read the book, so I'm viewing it entirely as a standalone movie.  I watched it in German with subtitles as well as I found the English dubbed voices far too distracting.

Watched it last night and I agree.  I thought it was a well enough made WW1 war action film, much better than 1917, but it bore little relationship to the book, or the two earlier films and misses the point entirely.  One of the principal themes of the book is the changing relationship between Paul, his family and acquaintances at home, who retain their jingoistic and nationalistic attitudes, and his comrades at the front.  He becomes increasingly distanced from the former, such that he feels greater affinity with the latter.  This latest film completely fails to explore that and concentrates entirely on the action.  The introduction of the Armistice negotiations were an addition that added nothing.  The ending was a complete departure and utter BS.  All we are told in the book is that Paul, the last survivor of his group, falls in October 1918 on a day that the Army, ironically, reports "Im Westen nichts Neues".


Watched it last night and I agree.  I thought it was a well enough made WW1 war action film, much better than 1917, but it bore little relationship to the book, or the two earlier films and misses the point entirely.  One of the principal themes of the book is the changing relationship between Paul, his family and acquaintances at home, who retain their jingoistic and nationalistic attitudes, and his comrades at the front.  He becomes increasingly distanced from the former, such that he feels greater affinity with the latter.  This latest film completely fails to explore that and concentrates entirely on the action.  The introduction of the Armistice negotiations were an addition that added nothing.  The ending was a complete departure and utter BS.  All we are told in the book is that Paul, the last survivor of his group, falls in October 1918 on a day that the Army, ironically, reports "Im Westen nichts Neues".


Saw it a few weeks ago on NETFLIX.  I have to agree that it was well done but a huge disappointment in covering current concerns [politically correct for today] rather than being faithful to the original material.  Inferior to its predecessors I suspect it will date more rapidly although it does some fresh features well, such as the tank attack.  I have seen the 1930 film several times and would see it again but doubt I would want to see the 2022 film again.