Quote from: sultanbev on 06 June 2022, 05:52:49 PMI did that and ended up with all the Brits and Spanish for Salamanca, at 1:10.

Snap!  Well almost, I decided to go for Talavera at 1:10. I've finished two British and two French divisions so far.  The Spanish will make a change - they all wear uniform but they are not.

Quote from: Big Insect on 06 June 2022, 03:55:01 PMMay the 'trick' is to pick a single Peninsular War battle and work upwards from that???

Looks like that is a frequent choice for the Forum members.  My plan A was Albuera at 1:20 as it had different nations present carefully spreadsheeted from 2 OOB sources. But then how could you not have wagons and mule trains and civilians and buildings to fight over.  Then I got very confused about uniform changes [Although no-one I know is going to pick up a stand and critique the hats] and thought I should have some more to widen the period covered and then how could you not have a large guerilla force hovering around French LOCs? etc etc.  And a full Spanish army appeals as I would have a ready made excuse for any games lost. 

The mystery of how Leon kept track of my changing requests and add-on orders is exceeded only by the mystery of how I will find painting time! Respect to those going 1:10. 

Quote from: DecemDave on 07 June 2022, 11:02:23 AMThen I got very confused about uniform changes 

The thing about so much of the uniformology of the Spanish infantry is, unless you are going to go for a pristine, pre-bellum, 1805 uniforms of the regular Royal army, that in most cases, nobody knows.  When it comes to new units raised by the regional Juntas, as well as the Central Junta, it is anybody's guess most of the time. 
In the case of Talavera, for example, which is quite early in the war I have been unable to identify the uniform for many of the newly raised provincial units, and even the uniforms of the old regular army units were a bit 'distressed' by 1809 and what any new recruits got issued with is nothing more than speculation.
Even when the British provided uniform appeared later in the war, it seems to have been far from universal.
If you can track one down, Bueno's Uniformes Espanoles de la Guerra de Independencia is useful, and if it doesn't identify a specific unit at least it gives an idea of the general appearance of the Spanish army.  A search on-line also sometimes provides information.
If anybody criticises your interpretation of a particular unit's uniform, I suggest you, politely, ask them to 'put up or shut up'.

QuoteI have been unable to identify the uniform for many of the newly raised provincial units, and even the uniforms of the old regular army units were a bit 'distressed' by 1809 and what any new recruits got issued with is nothing more than speculation.

Thanks John.  I did get a copy of Buena Carrera while I was in Spain.   The Wargaming company categorises provincial militia uniforms into "1802 blue type", "1802 brown", "1805 white" and "unknown". in  their book "To Assure my Dynasty" which is aimed at 1808.  but they don't quote their sources which always makes me cynical as the source might apply to a very different date.   By 1811, I think artists licence even in one unit will apply nicely.

Quote from: DecemDave on 08 June 2022, 03:50:05 PMThe Wargaming company categorises provincial militia uniforms into "1802 blue type", "1802 brown", "1805 white" and "unknown".

I don't know the Wargaming Company book you mention but it is right.  The 1802 Provincial Militia uniform was either blue or brown, mainly the latter.  It was changed to white in 1805 but by 1808 only one regiment had changed.  The line infantry was a similar story with their 1802 dark sky blue uniforms being changed for white in 1805, but some were still wearing the 1802 uniforms in 1808.  For early war uniforms you need Somerville's and Cronin's two volume work on the subject which has lists showing which regiment was wearing which uniform in May 1808.  Where it gets much more opaque are the uniforms of the new regiments raised after 1808 for which there seems to be almost infinite variety.  The anarchy does not even seem to have ended with the introduction of the British supplied uniforms.

Quote from: John Cook on 09 June 2022, 11:27:16 AMI don't know the Wargaming Company book you mention but it is right.

Thanks again.  The book I mentioned is here :  https://thewargamingcompany.com/to-assure-my-dynasty-now-shipping/
Its in their ESR series so I got my copy through MM.

I've ordered the Somerville's and Cronin books from the publisher.  Cheaper than Amazon but far from cheap! My cost of hobby crisis continues to develop.    

Quote from: DecemDave on 09 June 2022, 02:02:23 PMMy cost of hobby crisis continues to develop.     

No they aren't cheap and having recommended them I hope you won't be disappointed.  It is a choice between food, heating or wargaming - what is it going to be?

I spent all of this money on wargaming .... and squandered the rest

I would echo John's recommendation of Cronin & Summerfield's two volumes on Spanish uniforms. Probably the best available in English on the subject.

I can't help but feel that these queries mark the beginning of a slippery slope; the fact that I'm showing this degree of interest.  Oh well, I managed to hold out for a month.

•   What is the composition of NPB5 British Line Command? The pack contains 30 figures and 4 poses, does this work out as 6 sets of 1 Officer, 2 Ensigns, 1 Drummer and 1 Sergeant?

•   Similarly, what is the composition of NPF3 French Line Command? The pack contains 30 figures and 4 poses, does this work out as 6 sets of 1 Officer, 1 Eagle Bearer, 1 Drummer and 2 Sergeants?

Thank you.

Finally. a suggested Army Park. The 1809 range shows a French Army Pack containing NPF10 French grenadiers, bearskin, MA.  Bearskins seem to have been less common in Spain and I wondered if you might consider a French Peninsular Army Pack containing 2 x NPF8 Line Elites, shako, MA in place of NPF10?

Quote from: DHautpol on 04 July 2022, 11:32:50 AMWhat is the composition of NPB5 British Line Command? The pack contains 30 figures and 4 poses, does this work out as 6 sets of 1 Officer, 2 Ensigns, 1 Drummer and 1 Sergeant?

Yep, 6 sets of those 5 figures.

Quote from: DHautpol on 04 July 2022, 11:32:50 AMSimilarly, what is the composition of NPF3 French Line Command? The pack contains 30 figures and 4 poses, does this work out as 6 sets of 1 Officer, 1 Eagle Bearer, 1 Drummer and 2 Sergeants?

For the French is a roughly equal mix of those 4 poses, so 7 or 8 of each one.

Quote from: DHautpol on 04 July 2022, 11:32:50 AMFinally. a suggested Army Park. The 1809 range shows a French Army Pack containing NPF10 French grenadiers, bearskin, MA.  Bearskins seem to have been less common in Spain and I wondered if you might consider a French Peninsular Army Pack containing 2 x NPF8 Line Elites, shako, MA in place of NPF10?

Thanks for the suggestion, I'd not considered that we'd need one of those now!  I'll have a look at that asap.

Thanks very much for the info Leon.

The fact that I'm scoping out units is very worrying.

Not sure about French use of bearskins in the Peninsular and I've never seen a study of their use in that, or any other theatre.  Some regiments certainly wore them as late as 1811, such that three combined grenadier battalions, leading the attack of IX Corps at Fuentes d'Onoro, were incorrectly identified as Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard.  Their use certainly declined generally towards the latter part of the Napoleonic wars mainly, I think, because shakos were cheaper, notwithstanding that bearskins were more often made of goat rather than bear.

I seem to remember when this range was being discussed that there was to be a "generic German" included. Suitable for the various French allied Rhinebund contingents - shako, short "German" habit with closed lapels, etc. Fusilier, plumed and epauleted Elite, Skirmisher and command. Is that still in planning somewhere or did it fall through the cracks?

Quote from: Zippee on 10 October 2022, 11:45:10 AMI seem to remember when this range was being discussed that there was to be a "generic German" included. 

There were indeed two generic CotR infantry types planned at the outset, one with trousers and one with short gaiters, which would also work for late war French 1814-1815.  I can't remember what happened to them, or why.  Leon's memory is probably better than mine.  In the end I used 1815 Nassau figures for the few I needed for my Talavera project.