Just finished episode 5 of RoP and I have to say I'm still enjoying it. I'm not sure I care about the characters but I do find myself caring about the story.

I managed to see episode one of House of the Dragon and I'm afraid and was reminded of Ian McShane's  description of it's progenitor,GoT, as "only tits and dragons." Can't say it grabbed me. Maybe I'm still scarred by Series 7 & 8 of GoT.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 September 2022, 02:05:45 PMI managed to see episode one of House of the Dragon and I'm afraid and was reminded of Ian McShane's  description of it's progenitor,GoT, as "only tits and dragons." Can't say it grabbed me. Maybe I'm still scarred by Series 7 & 8 of GoT.

I would argue that Lovejoy would have been massively improved by more tits and dragons,

QuoteI would argue that Lovejoy would have been massively improved by more tits and dragons

Purhaps.....

But I really think Ian McShane had his Lovejoy character down pat, he just played it so naturally.

Unfortunately in the end he didn't get together with the delightful Lady Jane, despite their long freindship. Instead she ended up as a housekeeper in a large country house   

As for the dragons....well they would probably be a bit big to fit in Eric's sidecar and may have sindged Tinker's hair?       

To be honest, I'd all but forgotten about Lovejoy. I associate Ian McShane more with Swearengen in Deadwood.

It's been a while since Lovejoy was made (mid 80's to early 90's?) and the cast have certainly been kept busy since then in a veriety of roles.

Took me about 3 episodes of Downton to realise that Lady Jane had aged gracefully into Mrs Hughes 

Anyway to get back on track I have been able to see the first two episodes of RoP - I quite like it (apart from anything else you can try to work out which locations in NZ they used  ) but I can certainly see why it doesn't tick everyones boxes. 

Watched episode 5 of ROP. But found content and storyline so poor I will not be watching episode 6.

Watched the latest episode last night and sorry to say, it was really, really poor, until about the last 5 minutes and how Mount Doom was created. Most of the time, aside from trying not to fall asleep, we were spotting Biblical references, The Seven Samurai ones etc. Will stick with it for a bit but by God does it need to improve though.

QuoteWatched the latest episode last night and sorry to say, it was really, really poor, until about the last 5 minutes . . .

Exactly what I thought. Only two more to go (grits teeth).

Quote from: Raider4 on 01 October 2022, 07:31:48 AMExactly what I thought. Only two more to go (grits teeth).

Errr ... sorry. There are five series planned, so you've potentially got 42 more episodes to watch? 

Spreading gloom and despondency again Nobby ?

Its becoming a standard sword and sorcery story. ( yes i know it was the first)
Hero has plot armour and no one just kills the baddie first time.
Major story items get lost, people have time to chat during vicious hand to hand combat
Can not see it making 3 series let alone 5

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 October 2022, 10:00:51 AMSpreading gloom and despondency again Nobby ?

Just stating the facts. 

If I'm being optimistic (which is territory I don't normally stray into) I can hope that Amazon can look at series 1 and so improve series 2 onwards. 

The production values are superb, it's just that the story lines are poor and the plots are all over the place. I hope they tighten things up considerably for series 2 too.

Quote from: Steve J on 01 October 2022, 03:56:02 PMThe production values are superb, it's just that the story lines are poor and the plots are all over the place. I hope they tighten things up considerably for series 2 too.

I'm actually wondering if they will scrub it. American TV is notorious for scrapping things if the ratings and reviews are not good.

We have been wondering whether they will do this too, ditto with the Wheel of Time, as neither seem to have been generally well received.