WWII Italian mountain gun released!

Started by Leon, 20 January 2022, 11:52:07 AM

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nigel drury

Thank you.  Your comments on equipment in the Proxy Figures/Models section https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,20186.15.html was also very useful.

Sunray

Suggest we correct the confusion and confirm that ITA 29 depicts the 65/17 Modello 17, not the very similar French Mle 1906 gun.

Trade Descriptions Act and all that.... :)

fred.

There is also SCW110 Italian 65mm mountain gun - is this the same gun (but without crew)?

https://www.pendraken.co.uk/nscw110-nitalian-65mm-mountain-gun-2-3325-p.asp
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Yep, that's the same one for SCW use, folks just need to add crew.
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Tolstoyevsky

I recall hearing that the 65mm gun was used in Spain and still in use in North Africa for regimental or battalion support fire. But it wasn't of much use, until the Italian army discovered it could fire something...a hollow-charge or HEAT round...and they could use it as an ATG. As it was in North Africa, those were placed aboard trucks to make them mobile. Whether they would dismount them when they reached a defensible position is a question.

John Cook

Quote from: Tolstoyevsky on 02 February 2022, 02:49:45 PMI recall hearing that the 65mm gun was used in Spain and still in use in North Africa for regimental or battalion support fire. 

Yes, it certainly was used in Spain by the National Army and by the Italian Corpo Truppe Volontarie.  Each National Army Brigade at Jarama in 1937, for example, had a battery of 65/17 from the Grupo de Artilleria de Accompaniamento and each Grupo de Banderas, essentially a brigade, in the CTV at Guadalajara had a battery of 65/17 too.  They were supposed to be for infantry support but they were an effective anti-tank weapon against the Popular Army's lightly armoured T26 tanks.     

sultanbev

The Italin 65/17 mountain gun did have an AP round, but in 1939-40 there was only 6% of shells being AP, about 12 per gun. They were portees on Fiat 634 lorries in some divisions in North Africa.
The EP HEAT round came into service in spring 1942 in North Africa.