Quote from: Poggle on 07 August 2021, 03:27:24 PM
Ohio has less than 50% vaccination rate. The city of Toledo has ordered all city employees to wear masks indoors again, and to do so if travelling together in the same vehicle.

Listening to R4 on the way home - late night news . Ran a report from I think Louisiana - in a church...The peps interviewed all said that the jab was aganist the will of god. That's what the US authorities are up against fortuneatly the uk has very few like that.

If you're a believer and have actually read the Bible, the opinion is defensible. Ridiculous, but credo qvia impossibile est.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 August 2021, 01:59:39 AM
If you're a believer and have actually read the Bible, the opinion is defensible. Ridiculous, but credo qvia impossibile est.

Its still  a very dubious (I am being polite here) take on things.

Fundamentalist Believers (of most if not all faiths) generally thank God for his provision of most things. _E.G Believers pray or say grace before a meal  to thank God for the food on the table. They do not refuse to eat because the food was produced using machinery - They would say "God helped us build the machinery"

So surely  People have used their God given intellect to produce  the vaccine to help keep you alive. Therefore in the believers case the vaccine is God given. So how could they  refuse it.

As far as I am aware the vaccine contains nothing that is forbidden in any of the mainstream religions of the world.

I'm not supporting them at any level.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 August 2021, 01:59:39 AM
If you're a believer and have actually read the Bible, the opinion is defensible. Ridiculous, but credo qvia impossibile est.

Alexander you can prove any opinion with the old testament - and it is full of contrdictions.

The New too. I had a Catholic friend once who was much troubled by the way you can't really combine faith and hope (if you believe it, hope doesn't make sense, and if you hope for it, where's the certainty of faith?).

I'll keep to my own credo - cats, nookie, harpsichord music, espresso, and try to leave room for other people to live their own lives too, except fantasy gamers.

Me likewise similar if slightly different.

Recently returned from a short break down in Ingerlund and wrote a review on one of the hotels we stayed at (Holiday Inn, Riverlights, Derby).

First attempt barred for "inappropriate language." 

So I deleted a competitor's name (Hilton by Doubleday) and replaced this with "another hotel chain" - and the review was successfully submitted!   

Mask wearing seems to have ceased round here on public transport. Just the odd few peps seen with them.

Pretty much over and done with here, not just on the bus (actually might be fine on the bus for all I know, I never use them!) but shops, pubs, offices etc etc seem to have abandoned it.

I would guess mask wearing has certainly diminished in Derby and York (still in force indoors in Scotland and I don't really know what it was like in England before this easement) but saw hotels and many shops and pubs still politely requesting people to wear masks and a number of peeps (including my wife and I) did so.

[I assume my "inappropriate language" post wasn't funny then ....    Well, our break was good anyway in helping to "get through it."   ]

Quote from: Westmarcher on 06 October 2021, 11:42:43 AM
[I assume my "inappropriate language" post wasn't funny then ....    Well, our break was good anyway in helping to "get through it."   ]

Don't call us we won't call you 

Quote from: Orcs on 22 August 2021, 04:50:38 AM
Its still  a very dubious (I am being polite here) take on things.

Fundamentalist Believers (of most if not all faiths) generally thank God for his provision of most things. _E.G Believers pray or say grace before a meal  to thank God for the food on the table. They do not refuse to eat because the food was produced using machinery - They would say "God helped us build the machinery"

So surely  People have used their God given intellect to produce  the vaccine to help keep you alive. Therefore in the believers case the vaccine is God given. So how could they  refuse it.

As far as I am aware the vaccine contains nothing that is forbidden in any of the mainstream religions of the world.

Funnily enough; Pharmaceutical companies (or Big Pharma for the tinfoil hat crowd) are quite alert to taboo ingredients in their products.

As for fundamentalists: History shows that their favourite pastime involves inflicting their commandments on others.

The State of Illinois mandates wearing masks inside public places. My wife and I were at the Archon SF/Fantasy convention in Collinsville Il  this weekend and I'd say masks were worn 99% of the time, and when they weren't it was where people could be socially distanced. It's the only time I can recall NOT suffering from 'Con Crud' after I got home so I guess the masks work.

By contrast Missouri across the river is a Covid hell hole. I talked to many people who were glad Archon wasn't hosted there.

Good stuff Poggle! People not breathing in each other's faces and actually washing sanitising hands?! Who'd a thnuked that would help...

Westmarcher, there's no laugh response

Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 August 2021, 01:59:39 AM
If you're a believer and have actually read the Bible, the opinion is defensible. Ridiculous, but credo qvia impossibile est.

This is a story of a man, who was a firm believer of god.

One day it began to rain very heavily. It kept raining and a big flood came.

The man climbed up on the roof of his house, and knew that he would be ok. God would protect him.

It kept raining and now the water had reached his waist. A rowboat came by and a guy in the boat said: "Hey, jump in. I'll take you with me".

"No thanks", said the man. "I'm a firm believer in God. He will rescue me". He sent the boat away.

It kept on raining and now the water had reached his neck. A patrol boat came by and a police officer in the boat said: "You look like you could need some help. Jump in and we'll take you with us".

"No", said the man. "I'm a firm believer in God. He will rescue me. Don't worry about me". The boat sailed away.

It still rained and the water now reached his mouth. A rescue helicopter came by and a guy in the helicopter let down a rope ladder and said: "Hi there my friend. Climb up. We'll rescue you".

"No", said the man. "I'm a firm believer in God. He will rescue me. I know he will". The helicopter flew away.

It kept on raining, and finally the man drowned.

When the man died, he went to heaven. When entering Heaven, he had an interview with God.

After giving a polite greeting and sitting down, the man asked: "Where were you. I waited and waited. I was sure you would rescue me, as I have been a firm believer all my life, and have only done good to others. So where were you when I needed you?"

God scratched his confused looking face and answered: "I don't get it either. I sent you two boats and a helicopter".

Nobby - coat chewing time !!!

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 October 2021, 11:45:44 AM
Don't call us we won't call you 

By the way, I'm crushed. 

That was an oldie, Mike. 

Quote from: Westmarcher on 06 October 2021, 04:30:02 PM
That was an oldie, Mike. 

No one has ever accused me of being original :-)