Wot e sed^^^^^^^^^

But  I didn't think anyone had been slagging anyone off. Maybe some were a bit vigorous (on both sides).
I'd happily play a game with anyone involved in this discussion - historical wargame or otherwise and certainly would not denigrate the game or the players (as long as I won )

Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 August 2021, 02:46:03 PM
I'm prepared to put money on it that anyone in this slanging match is very willing to have a drink with any other participant.

I would agree FK, this forum does generally behave itself , but when one party is referring to another's preference as "Tosh"  we are getting a little close to the line

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 August 2021, 02:47:38 PM
I'll drink wit almost anybody !

We know, especially if they are paying 

I have to say that I don't see a slanging match, just two opposed views being defended with passion and vigour.

How does one truly know what one believes until one is forced to defend it?

If my liberal splattering of posts with smiley emojis has not adequately indicated the grin on my face or the tongue in my cheek on occasion as I hit the "post" button then I apologise.

So, for the record, not only happy to share a drink but also to get the first round in!

Mines a pint of Krugg then...

This argument, in my opinion, is about as gratuitous as they come, not least because, if the point of an argument is to change others' points of view, it has next to no chance of succeeding.  Be that as it may, the English language is a most expressive, dynamic and wonderful thing, superior to all others, such that I think we all understand the meaning of 'Fantasy', 'Science Fiction', 'Historical' and 'Wargame', without looking for definitions in the Oxford English Dictionary, the single authority on the English language.  It seems to me that all are concerned with war, to one degree or another, and all are games.  I don't care for 'science fiction' or 'fantasy' games, but that is neither here nor there.  I've also never understood the attraction of Tolkien, Heinlein et al, as literature or film.  Lots of people do but as far as I know it isn't mandatory.

My 2 OWG* worth:

Fantasy wargaming is not an oxymoron. A game of a fantasy war is a fantasy wargame.

Any wargame (fantasy or not) may or may not be tosh aka nonsense.

A fantasy wargame that takes some fantastical premise as a given (eg that dragons exist, or that wizards can cast spells) can still have sound internal logic that means it is not nonsense. Dragons and other monsters can have stats that fit in the same logical structure as other troop types and enable them to interact in logical ways. Magic can be powered by magic points that are acquired and spent in logical ways, there can be logic to spell effects, and again these can interact logically with the troops and monsters. Such games are fantasy but not necessarily nonsensical.

A wargame that purports to represent a historical battle may or may not be nonsense. When people get the terrain or order of battle grossly wrong, that's tosh.

Chris

*Official Wizard Groats

Well I would bet on my Chieftain against any number of wizards, dragons etc. who were able to turn up!      

(and buy them a drink afterwards).

Cheers Paul

Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 06 August 2021, 03:25:55 PM
Mines a pint of Krugg then...

Krug Grande Cuvée 169ème Édition, Krug Grande Cuvée 168ème Édition, Krug Grande Cuvée 167ème Édition or Krug Grande Cuvée 166ème Édition?

And no chugging it down like a yard of ale!

167em. Merci

Quote from: T13A on 06 August 2021, 04:24:05 PM
Well I would bet on my Chieftain against any number of wizards, dragons etc. who were able to turn up!      

Casts Rust . . .

Well I used my voucher to buy a couple of WWS back issue pdf's, which only cost me £1.50 after said voucher applied . I must admit the older of the two issues was much more interesting that a more recent one, the latter trying to cover too much ground IMHO, where the former was themed for most of the issue.

I'll have a tosh and soda, please.

Quote from: Raider4 on 06 August 2021, 07:36:42 PM
Casts Rust . . .

I was thinking Heat Metal.

Hi

Well, I would still back my Chieftain against anybody in a pointy hat, jumping up and down waving a stick and shouting "Cast Rust" or "Heat metal"! 



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