Warlord Epic scale

Started by Redstef, 30 March 2021, 09:07:27 PM

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Leman

TBH John I feel the same about Flickr which I have finally managed to get my head round, even though different fora have different ways of posting the photo to them.
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Quote from: John Cook on 08 April 2021, 10:55:23 AM
If I can master imgur, anybody can.
It's not that I can't; I find it pointless, it's an extra effort which, in my opinion, is unnescessary. I don't store any of my pictures in some cloud; I just have them on my pc and in almost every other medium I can simply copy-paste my pictures; I don't know why we can't have the same simple system on this forum. Time for an update maybe after the Great Trek!  ;)

Cheers,
Rob
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Leman

12 April 2021, 09:22:29 AM #47 Last Edit: 12 April 2021, 10:06:50 AM by Leman
I would suggest that it is only pointless if you don't think you have anything worth sharing for the benefit of others on the forum. To quote the old adage: a picture is worth a thousand words. It is a bit of an effort setting things up to start with, but once done relatively little effort to use. I use more time reading my posts and correcting typing errors and poor phrasing prior to posting. Before I was able to post pictures I found it very frustrating trying to describe what I was doing.
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Leman

12 April 2021, 10:03:43 AM #48 Last Edit: 12 April 2021, 10:10:31 AM by Leman
A couple of ideas I've had for my Gettysburg project:



Mostly I have been thinking about the artillery. Now that is a nice little model, although not 100% accurate. It is after all a toy and not a museum exhibit. However, it is quite obviously a 12lb howitzer, an odd choice for the one and only ACW artillery piece in this range. So, for those who like something a little more varied a few ideas:
1. Cut the gun barrel off from the breach bulge. Now cut off half of the remaining tube between the breach cut and the beginning of the muzzle. Glue and pin the muzzle section back to the breach and this gives a passable 6lb smoothbore.
2. Cut just the muzzle off. Paint the remainder black for a passable 20pdr Parrott.
3. Use Kallistra for 12lb Napoleon, 3" Rifle and 10pdr Parrott. All three barrels come in a Kallistra artillery pack.
4. For the sake of completeness base all guns on Kallistra size bases. The ones supplied by Warlord have an odd and unnecessary depth.
5. To the left of the gun is a Confederate unit, the command of which is by Kallistra. I did this by removing 6 figures from the middle of a warlord strip and replacing with drummer, standard bearer, officer and two marching figures. As Kallistra are individual figures only 5 will fit in the space vacated by the 6 Warlord figures.
6. What happened to the 6 figures? I sliced them up into individuals, removed the lugs on figure strips and glued the strip and extra figure so that the figures now fit right across the base. In future I will do this with the extra command strips, pushing the Warlord figures to the edge and using 6 Kallistra figures. The gap in a full unit bothers some people. This solves the problem and also reduces waste when creating additional command bases (I only want three bases to a standard unit as I don't own a converted stable block).
7. Some other ideas - use spare guns and figures for wrecks and casualties; Kallistra shooting figures for skirmishers; you can get four Kallistra limbers for less than the price of a single Warlord one. Warlord may have to rethink their price points on the follow up additions to this range, otherwise all they will do is push people Kallistra's way or make people think seriously about 10mm and 6mm for a real epic experience (obviously preaching to the converted on this forum).
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Norm

Good ideas. I have been reluctant to cut the artillery as the barrel looks quite chunky, but I have enough to at least have a dabble.

Westmarcher

A good Epic v. Kallistra comparison here, particularly at 1:45 :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp4Iu2qEfTw
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John Cook

Quote from: Leman on 12 April 2021, 09:22:29 AM
I would suggest that it is only pointless if you don't think you have anything worth sharing for the benefit of others on the forum. To quote the old adage: a picture is worth a thousand words. It is a bit of an effort setting things up to start with, but once done relatively little effort to use. I use more time reading my posts and correcting typing errors and poor phrasing prior to posting. Before I was able to post pictures I found it very frustrating trying to describe what I was doing.

True enough but is not the principal point of Imgur, Flikr, Cloud storage etc that they are a back-up for data unless, of course, losing it isn't an issue.  Am I 'old fashioned' in that I also back-up unique data to an external hard disk; a habit I got into years ago before other storage mediums existed?  There is no effort, once you've mastered how to use them - that is the only relatively hard part and, as far as posting to forums is concerned generally, none that I use allows members to post their pictures directly.  I'm not sure but is it not the issue of space that precludes it? 

Ithoriel

It is possible to post pictures from your hard drive but only if they are 128k or less in size. I use the GIMP to reduce the size if I want to use that option.

Storing anything that way takes storage space, which may not be as expensive as it once was but it is still a cost to the business.

Posting a link to an image on Imgur, Flikr, Image Shack or the like not only saves the business the cost of renting and maintaining more storage space than necessary but also allows you to share your images with friends, family or even the whole world.

The specifics may vary but in essence each site requires the same process - find the url, copy the url, paste the url. The differences tend to be in how you wrap the html, bbcode or whatever tags around the url to make it visible. The more automated the method the better IMHO but again there's a cost to better software in most instances.

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Ace of Spades

Quote from: Leman on 12 April 2021, 10:03:43 AM
A couple of ideas I've had for my Gettysburg project:



Mostly I have been thinking about the artillery. Now that is a nice little model, although not 100% accurate. It is after all a toy and not a museum exhibit. However, it is quite obviously a 12lb howitzer, an odd choice for the one and only ACW artillery piece in this range. So, for those who like something a little more varied a few ideas:
1. Cut the gun barrel off from the breach bulge. Now cut off half of the remaining tube between the breach cut and the beginning of the muzzle. Glue and pin the muzzle section back to the breach and this gives a passable 6lb smoothbore.
2. Cut just the muzzle off. Paint the remainder black for a passable 20pdr Parrott.
3. Use Kallistra for 12lb Napoleon, 3" Rifle and 10pdr Parrott. All three barrels come in a Kallistra artillery pack.
4. For the sake of completeness base all guns on Kallistra size bases. The ones supplied by Warlord have an odd and unnecessary depth.
5. To the left of the gun is a Confederate unit, the command of which is by Kallistra. I did this by removing 6 figures from the middle of a warlord strip and replacing with drummer, standard bearer, officer and two marching figures. As Kallistra are individual figures only 5 will fit in the space vacated by the 6 Warlord figures.
6. What happened to the 6 figures? I sliced them up into individuals, removed the lugs on figure strips and glued the strip and extra figure so that the figures now fit right across the base. In future I will do this with the extra command strips, pushing the Warlord figures to the edge and using 6 Kallistra figures. The gap in a full unit bothers some people. This solves the problem and also reduces waste when creating additional command bases (I only want three bases to a standard unit as I don't own a converted stable block).
7. Some other ideas - use spare guns and figures for wrecks and casualties; Kallistra shooting figures for skirmishers; you can get four Kallistra limbers for less than the price of a single Warlord one. Warlord may have to rethink their price points on the follow up additions to this range, otherwise all they will do is push people Kallistra's way or make people think seriously about 10mm and 6mm for a real epic experience (obviously preaching to the converted on this forum).
I have an order of Kallistra coming in as well; command sets, limbers skirmishers and guns.
I find the WL guns awkward in different areas; not just the spokes. The barrels also have something 'Napoleonic' about them. The sections (chamber/barrel/muzzle) are not very ACW. A 12 pdr Napoleon has a smooth outer surface and so do most others except for the breech loaders that usually have re-inforced chambers. I plan to replace my artillery completely with Kallistra guns and crews. The plastic ones will be saved and perhaps used to portray 'off-table' artillery with some adaptations to the barrels.
There are also some strange details about some of these new (and very expensive) WL figures. Have you noticed how the saddles of the riderless horses for the dismounted cavalry all have heavy blanketrolls on the saddle? Not behind the rider but in his place, a bit like the valises on artillery horses... I wonder what the sculptor was thinking...
Ah well; the bulk of the infantry will do and the rest will be outsourced!

Cheers,
Rob
2014 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Leman

You are quite right, the 12lb "napoleon" gun howitzer does have a smooth profile. What Warlord have gone for is the 12lb howitzer of 1840s vintage. Why they went for that and not the much more common 12lb gun howitzer is anybody's guess.
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jimduncanuk

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Techno II

Looking damn fine, Jim.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)

Leman

Indeed those Kallistra figures really make the Epic range work, although what effect that will have on the longevity of Warlord's venture into smaller scale gaming is uncertain at present. I notice in their latest briefing they are offering starter armies again (infantry,guns,mounted officers) with free casualties this time.
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jimduncanuk

Quote from: Leman on 18 April 2021, 04:49:56 PM
Indeed those Kallistra figures really make the Epic range work, although what effect that will have on the longevity of Warlord's venture into smaller scale gaming is uncertain at present. I notice in their latest briefing they are offering starter armies again (infantry,guns,mounted officers) with free casualties this time.

If the Warlord effort does expire then I won't be too bothered. I already have enough for 34 infantry regiments and guns and as many cavalry I would ever need using Kallistra figures. It would be a shame for anyone else late to the party though.

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jimduncanuk

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